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Topic: 280 BTC total bets between Micon and mrb (are BFL ASICs real?) - page 6. (Read 46368 times)

legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1014
FPV Drone Pilot
Addresses match, I've deposited 5 coins. Good luck sir!
Address:
1G3hsvYUArCZphrSvj3Kux5X3GQH6aHqG6

Transaction details for my deposit:
https://blockchain.info/tx/dc21110e2165e7e9f28476ae860fb3552a28a5c902d86a847a2da5d6821a49ef


shipped as well.  10 coins in the addy:

https://blockchain.info/address/1G3hsvYUArCZphrSvj3Kux5X3GQH6aHqG6

legendary
Activity: 1973
Merit: 1007
Addresses match, I've deposited 5 coins. Good luck sir!
Address:
1G3hsvYUArCZphrSvj3Kux5X3GQH6aHqG6

Transaction details for my deposit:
https://blockchain.info/tx/dc21110e2165e7e9f28476ae860fb3552a28a5c902d86a847a2da5d6821a49ef
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1330
Pretty neat idea, I like it.

It's clever isn't it?  I can decide who wins if you two can't, but I can't get my hands on your coins.
legendary
Activity: 1973
Merit: 1007
Pretty neat idea, I like it.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1330
Ok, dooglus works for me, let's do it.

Can you PM me your email address?

I got the PM and have now emailed code A to Micon and code B to CrazyBlane.  Those start with einva and einvb.

They now both need to get casascius' btcaddress program:
  http://casascius.wordpress.com/2013/01/26/bitcoin-address-utility/

You'll maybe need to install the .NET stuff (or Mono if you're not on a Microsoft system) to get it to run.

Then open the 1st menu, 'Tools', and pick the last entry, 'Escrow Tools'.

One of you (it doesn't matter which, but you should agree who) needs to 'Be a Payee', put in the code I sent you, and 'Generate Payment Invitation'.  That will give you a new code P (starts with einvp).  You send that to the guy you're betting against, and he uses it on the 'Be a Payer' tab.  You both should see the same bitcoin address.  Confirm here that you both see the same one.  That's where you'll send your stakes.

To claim the money, you need 3 codes (A, B, P).

I have A and B.
Micon will have A and P.
CrazyBlane will have B and P.

so none of us can get at the money without cooperating with one of the others.  That's how the escrow works.

Ideally Micon and CrazyBlane will agree who won; the loser will give his code (A or B) to the winner, and I don't need to get involved.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005


The terminology included in this bet does not change the original 20 BTC bet in any way.  The original 20 BTC bet is only held to the terms specified at the time of the original bet.

BFL will ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3 customers (at least 1 device per customer) who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST 7/1.  No BFL-employee or anyone that has been to BFL labs personally to settle the 3 customers pix & hashrate.  If BFL ships a device that does not meet the power specification, but then does ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices meeting the above criteria before the deadline, then SgtSpike wins the bet.

If you agree to my statement as outlined above, post here stating as much, and then we can both send in our 100 BTC to the original Bitcoin address, 1B3EAGAgXoALFd6o9762hitoCyH61JxF4Y

https://blockchain.info/address/1B3EAGAgXoALFd6o9762hitoCyH61JxF4Y

I have sent 100 coins additional here.  Your turn SgtSpike!  glglgl
Done.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1330
You got it my man.  Thanks very much for acting as our escrow.   No pgp needed for me, this should be very easy to settle, unlikely there will be debate with our carefully worded statement.

No problem.

Note that PGP isn't to avoid debate by the way; it's to avoid someone being able to intercept your email and steal your coins.  Your ISP, perhaps, or some rogue google employee, or someone with access to the sealswithclubs mail server, or someone at my ISP.  They're all able to see the escrow code I emailed to you in plain text.  Then, if you win the bet and CrazyBlane emails you his escrow code in plain text too, they can put the two together before you and get your winnings.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1014
FPV Drone Pilot
Ok, dooglus works for me, let's do it.

Can you PM me your email address?  I don't want to put the escrow codes in a forum PM where others may be able to see them.  I have an address for Micon.  If you want me to GPG encrypt the code, send me your public key too, though that's up to you.

Also, am I correct that the terms for this bet are the same as SgtSpike just restated, in that BFL can deliver many devices which fail to meet the power requirements and Micon still loses so long as they ship enough which do meet the requirements by the deadline (and get pics posted, etc.)?  Basically just saying that Micon can't win before the deadline, no matter what junk BFL ships.

You got it my man.  Thanks very much for acting as our escrow.   No pgp needed for me, this should be very easy to settle, unlikely there will be debate with our carefully worded statement.

also still waiting on SgtSpike's 100 coins for this --> https://blockchain.info/address/1B3EAGAgXoALFd6o9762hitoCyH61JxF4Y
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1330
Ok, dooglus works for me, let's do it.

Can you PM me your email address?  I don't want to put the escrow codes in a forum PM where others may be able to see them.  I have an address for Micon.  If you want me to GPG encrypt the code, send me your public key too, though that's up to you.

Also, am I correct that the terms for this bet are the same as SgtSpike just restated, in that BFL can deliver many devices which fail to meet the power requirements and Micon still loses so long as they ship enough which do meet the requirements by the deadline (and get pics posted, etc.)?  Basically just saying that Micon can't win before the deadline, no matter what junk BFL ships.
legendary
Activity: 1973
Merit: 1007
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BFL will ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3 customers (at least 1 device per customer) who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST 7/1.  No BFL-employee or anyone that has been to BFL labs personally to settle the 3 customers pix & hashrate.  If BFL ships a device that does not meet the power specification, but then does ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices meeting the above criteria before the deadline, then SgtSpike wins the bet.
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I would like to move forward on our measly 5 BTC bet with the same terms written above. Are we using Escrow?

Dooglus it up for Escrow IMO.  ur on / same terms / 5 coins each

FYI waiting on a SwC cashout for this:

https://blockchain.info/address/1B3EAGAgXoALFd6o9762hitoCyH61JxF4Y

address for the 100 coin increase but it's on the way.  BTC check is in the mail.  by the time I wake up it should be there / gl SgtSpike

edit:  shipped


Ok, dooglus works for me, let's do it.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1014
FPV Drone Pilot


The terminology included in this bet does not change the original 20 BTC bet in any way.  The original 20 BTC bet is only held to the terms specified at the time of the original bet.

BFL will ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3 customers (at least 1 device per customer) who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST 7/1.  No BFL-employee or anyone that has been to BFL labs personally to settle the 3 customers pix & hashrate.  If BFL ships a device that does not meet the power specification, but then does ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices meeting the above criteria before the deadline, then SgtSpike wins the bet.

If you agree to my statement as outlined above, post here stating as much, and then we can both send in our 100 BTC to the original Bitcoin address, 1B3EAGAgXoALFd6o9762hitoCyH61JxF4Y

https://blockchain.info/address/1B3EAGAgXoALFd6o9762hitoCyH61JxF4Y

I have sent 100 coins additional here.  Your turn SgtSpike!  glglgl
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1014
FPV Drone Pilot
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BFL will ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3 customers (at least 1 device per customer) who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST 7/1.  No BFL-employee or anyone that has been to BFL labs personally to settle the 3 customers pix & hashrate.  If BFL ships a device that does not meet the power specification, but then does ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices meeting the above criteria before the deadline, then SgtSpike wins the bet.
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I would like to move forward on our measly 5 BTC bet with the same terms written above. Are we using Escrow?

Dooglus it up for Escrow IMO.  ur on / same terms / 5 coins each

FYI waiting on a SwC cashout for this:

https://blockchain.info/address/1B3EAGAgXoALFd6o9762hitoCyH61JxF4Y

address for the 100 coin increase but it's on the way.  BTC check is in the mail.  by the time I wake up it should be there / gl SgtSpike

edit:  shipped
legendary
Activity: 1973
Merit: 1007
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BFL will ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3 customers (at least 1 device per customer) who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST 7/1.  No BFL-employee or anyone that has been to BFL labs personally to settle the 3 customers pix & hashrate.  If BFL ships a device that does not meet the power specification, but then does ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices meeting the above criteria before the deadline, then SgtSpike wins the bet.
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I would like to move forward on our measly 5 BTC bet with the same terms written above. Are we using Escrow?
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1014
FPV Drone Pilot

Micon - I am willing to increase our bet up to an additional 100 BTC.  If you agree, we can both just pay the original bet address.

I'm in, just please agree to these restated the terms (as this is gonna be a ~ $10k bet when book, who knows what it will be worth when settled) :

SgtSpike bets 100 BTC that this statement is true:

BFL will ship out 3+ ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3+a customers who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST 7/1.  No BFL-employee or anyone that has been to BFL labs personally to settle the 3 customers pix & hashrate.  

Micon bets this statement is false, also for 100 btc.

Unlike the betsofbitco.in fiasco, I don't believe there will be a problem between 2 gentleman bettors.  Result should be abundantly clear on the morning of 7/1

Just agree to this and we can both hit the hash.  

Sure.  I would like to further clarify:

The terminology included in this bet does not change the original 20 BTC bet in any way.  The original 20 BTC bet is only held to the terms specified at the time of the original bet.

(My changes in bold):
BFL will ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3 customers (at least 1 device per customer) who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST 7/1.  No BFL-employee or anyone that has been to BFL labs personally to settle the 3 customers pix & hashrate.  If BFL ships out devices that do not meet the power requirement, this does not conclude the bet.  As long as BFL ships out at least 3 ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3 customers who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST, the statement is true, and the bet is won in SgtSpike's favor.

If you agree to my statement as outlined above, post here stating as much, and then we can both send in our 100 BTC to the original Bitcoin address, 1B3EAGAgXoALFd6o9762hitoCyH61JxF4Y

I think we are 1mm from having a bet here, I really don't like your sentence "If BFL ships out devices that do not meet the power requirement, this does not conclude the bet" I understand what you mean and I agree, i.e. if BFL ships a device that doesn't meet power specs but then does ship 3x+ that do meet our spec by our date then you would win.  I agree to that no problem.

Maybe I just ask you to reword it 1 more time and then I hit the hash?  I think we will have a 200 coin extra bet here by the end of the day.
Ok, final (hopefully) wording of the bet:

The terminology included in this bet does not change the original 20 BTC bet in any way.  The original 20 BTC bet is only held to the terms specified at the time of the original bet.

BFL will ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3 customers (at least 1 device per customer) who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST 7/1.  No BFL-employee or anyone that has been to BFL labs personally to settle the 3 customers pix & hashrate.  If BFL ships a device that does not meet the power specification, but then does ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices meeting the above criteria before the deadline, then SgtSpike wins the bet.

If you agree to my statement as outlined above, post here stating as much, and then we can both send in our 100 BTC to the original Bitcoin address, 1B3EAGAgXoALFd6o9762hitoCyH61JxF4Y

sounds good / will ship in a few hrs
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005

Micon - I am willing to increase our bet up to an additional 100 BTC.  If you agree, we can both just pay the original bet address.

I'm in, just please agree to these restated the terms (as this is gonna be a ~ $10k bet when book, who knows what it will be worth when settled) :

SgtSpike bets 100 BTC that this statement is true:

BFL will ship out 3+ ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3+a customers who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST 7/1.  No BFL-employee or anyone that has been to BFL labs personally to settle the 3 customers pix & hashrate.  

Micon bets this statement is false, also for 100 btc.

Unlike the betsofbitco.in fiasco, I don't believe there will be a problem between 2 gentleman bettors.  Result should be abundantly clear on the morning of 7/1

Just agree to this and we can both hit the hash.  

Sure.  I would like to further clarify:

The terminology included in this bet does not change the original 20 BTC bet in any way.  The original 20 BTC bet is only held to the terms specified at the time of the original bet.

(My changes in bold):
BFL will ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3 customers (at least 1 device per customer) who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST 7/1.  No BFL-employee or anyone that has been to BFL labs personally to settle the 3 customers pix & hashrate.  If BFL ships out devices that do not meet the power requirement, this does not conclude the bet.  As long as BFL ships out at least 3 ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3 customers who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST, the statement is true, and the bet is won in SgtSpike's favor.

If you agree to my statement as outlined above, post here stating as much, and then we can both send in our 100 BTC to the original Bitcoin address, 1B3EAGAgXoALFd6o9762hitoCyH61JxF4Y

I think we are 1mm from having a bet here, I really don't like your sentence "If BFL ships out devices that do not meet the power requirement, this does not conclude the bet" I understand what you mean and I agree, i.e. if BFL ships a device that doesn't meet power specs but then does ship 3x+ that do meet our spec by our date then you would win.  I agree to that no problem.

Maybe I just ask you to reword it 1 more time and then I hit the hash?  I think we will have a 200 coin extra bet here by the end of the day.
Ok, final (hopefully) wording of the bet:

The terminology included in this bet does not change the original 20 BTC bet in any way.  The original 20 BTC bet is only held to the terms specified at the time of the original bet.

BFL will ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3 customers (at least 1 device per customer) who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST 7/1.  No BFL-employee or anyone that has been to BFL labs personally to settle the 3 customers pix & hashrate.  If BFL ships a device that does not meet the power specification, but then does ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices meeting the above criteria before the deadline, then SgtSpike wins the bet.

If you agree to my statement as outlined above, post here stating as much, and then we can both send in our 100 BTC to the original Bitcoin address, 1B3EAGAgXoALFd6o9762hitoCyH61JxF4Y
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1005
I like hitting the hash from time to time.  Mmmm.  Tastes like a Christmas tree.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
hit the hash

This is completely off topic, but for some reason I really, really hate it whenever you say that.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1014
FPV Drone Pilot

Micon - I am willing to increase our bet up to an additional 100 BTC.  If you agree, we can both just pay the original bet address.

I'm in, just please agree to these restated the terms (as this is gonna be a ~ $10k bet when book, who knows what it will be worth when settled) :

SgtSpike bets 100 BTC that this statement is true:

BFL will ship out 3+ ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3+a customers who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST 7/1.  No BFL-employee or anyone that has been to BFL labs personally to settle the 3 customers pix & hashrate.  

Micon bets this statement is false, also for 100 btc.

Unlike the betsofbitco.in fiasco, I don't believe there will be a problem between 2 gentleman bettors.  Result should be abundantly clear on the morning of 7/1

Just agree to this and we can both hit the hash.  

Sure.  I would like to further clarify:

The terminology included in this bet does not change the original 20 BTC bet in any way.  The original 20 BTC bet is only held to the terms specified at the time of the original bet.

(My changes in bold):
BFL will ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3 customers (at least 1 device per customer) who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST 7/1.  No BFL-employee or anyone that has been to BFL labs personally to settle the 3 customers pix & hashrate.  If BFL ships out devices that do not meet the power requirement, this does not conclude the bet.  As long as BFL ships out at least 3 ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3 customers who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST, the statement is true, and the bet is won in SgtSpike's favor.

If you agree to my statement as outlined above, post here stating as much, and then we can both send in our 100 BTC to the original Bitcoin address, 1B3EAGAgXoALFd6o9762hitoCyH61JxF4Y

I think we are 1mm from having a bet here, I really don't like your sentence "If BFL ships out devices that do not meet the power requirement, this does not conclude the bet" I understand what you mean and I agree, i.e. if BFL ships a device that doesn't meet power specs but then does ship 3x+ that do meet our spec by our date then you would win.  I agree to that no problem.

Maybe I just ask you to reword it 1 more time and then I hit the hash?  I think we will have a 200 coin extra bet here by the end of the day.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005

Micon - I am willing to increase our bet up to an additional 100 BTC.  If you agree, we can both just pay the original bet address.

I'm in, just please agree to these restated the terms (as this is gonna be a ~ $10k bet when book, who knows what it will be worth when settled) :

SgtSpike bets 100 BTC that this statement is true:

BFL will ship out 3+ ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3+a customers who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST 7/1.  No BFL-employee or anyone that has been to BFL labs personally to settle the 3 customers pix & hashrate.  

Micon bets this statement is false, also for 100 btc.

Unlike the betsofbitco.in fiasco, I don't believe there will be a problem between 2 gentleman bettors.  Result should be abundantly clear on the morning of 7/1

Just agree to this and we can both hit the hash.  

Sure.  I would like to further clarify:

The terminology included in this bet does not change the original 20 BTC bet in any way.  The original 20 BTC bet is only held to the terms specified at the time of the original bet.

(My changes in bold):
BFL will ship out at least 3 ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3 customers (at least 1 device per customer) who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST 7/1.  No BFL-employee or anyone that has been to BFL labs personally to settle the 3 customers pix & hashrate.  If BFL ships out devices that do not meet the power requirement, this does not conclude the bet.  As long as BFL ships out at least 3 ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3 customers who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST, the statement is true, and the bet is won in SgtSpike's favor.

If you agree to my statement as outlined above, post here stating as much, and then we can both send in our 100 BTC to the original Bitcoin address, 1B3EAGAgXoALFd6o9762hitoCyH61JxF4Y
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1014
FPV Drone Pilot

Micon - I am willing to increase our bet up to an additional 100 BTC.  If you agree, we can both just pay the original bet address.

I'm in, just please agree to these restated the terms (as this is gonna be a ~ $10k bet when book, who knows what it will be worth when settled) :

SgtSpike bets 100 BTC that this statement is true:

BFL will ship out 3+ ASIC mining devices capable of at least 150MH/s per watt to at least 3+a customers who post pix & verify hashrate by 12:01am EST 7/1.  No BFL-employee or anyone that has been to BFL labs personally to settle the 3 customers pix & hashrate. 

Micon bets this statement is false, also for 100 btc.

Unlike the betsofbitco.in fiasco, I don't believe there will be a problem between 2 gentleman bettors.  Result should be abundantly clear on the morning of 7/1

Just agree to this and we can both hit the hash. 
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