28nm ** 1T ** 900W【JingTian miner】 in production !!! - page 16.

seeksilence

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Since the story is not on the air, I will keep my mouth tight. Cheesy

The miner is NOT built from nothing. We still have cost. From the view of investment, by selling some miners we will get some investment back to lower our risk. Since the miner uses the most advanced 28nm technology, I expect it will have longer lifespan than any miner currently in the market. It will still be a profitable investment in the future. I have already mentioned before that the miner could be delivered around the middle of March. Everything will be clear in a few days when the official website is launched.

From your words, you are a serious buyer. If you follow the post from skyfromwell, you should know he had already contacted third-party for testing. We value our customers and we will build our reputation since we consider it as a long-term business.

Thanks for your interest.

S4VV4S

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Quote from: seeksilence on February 22, 2014, 05:44:40 PM

Quote from: S4VV4S on February 22, 2014, 05:08:49 PM

Quote from: seeksilence on February 22, 2014, 04:34:56 PM

Cheers!
All time total payout: 224.63144793 BTC + Unpaid Balance 5.23307419 BTC
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1swrtyBsp9odruX65upeyubAVSAyggh78

And why are you selling these miners???

OH, you are "testing" them and when all "testing" is done then they are good to go right?

This is a very good question and could take a long time to answer since there is a very very interesting story behind this. Unfortunately, I could not share the story with you. The testing should be considered closed since the 60T miners are very stable now and we are in mass production for the first 1200T order. The official website will be launched in a few days. Then you could make your order for this super powerful miner if you want.

Why can't you share the story with us all???
We are all very interested!

It seems that your hash power provides you with good income.
So when are you going to sell them?
When they are not profitable no more?

Do you even have these miners?

If yes I would love to test one.

Send me a sample of these units and if indeed it is what you say it is then I will gladly pay you the BTC for it.

seeksilence

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Quote from: S4VV4S on February 22, 2014, 05:08:49 PM

Quote from: seeksilence on February 22, 2014, 04:34:56 PM

Cheers!
All time total payout: 224.63144793 BTC + Unpaid Balance 5.23307419 BTC
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1swrtyBsp9odruX65upeyubAVSAyggh78

And why are you selling these miners???

OH, you are "testing" them and when all "testing" is done then they are good to go right?

This is a very good question and could take a long time to answer since there is a very very interesting story behind this. Unfortunately, I could not share the story with you. The testing should be considered closed since the 60T miners are very stable now and we are in mass production for the first 1200T order. The official website will be launched in a few days. Then you could make your order for this super powerful miner if you want.

S4VV4S

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Quote from: seeksilence on February 22, 2014, 04:34:56 PM

Cheers!
All time total payout: 224.63144793 BTC + Unpaid Balance 5.23307419 BTC
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1swrtyBsp9odruX65upeyubAVSAyggh78

And why are you selling these miners???

OH, you are "testing" them and when all "testing" is done then they are good to go right?

derpberp

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^^ How to make 100 grand before you even sell a unit.

seeksilence

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Cheers!
All time total payout: 224.63144793 BTC + Unpaid Balance 5.23307419 BTC
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1swrtyBsp9odruX65upeyubAVSAyggh78

seeksilence

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Quote from: Bicknellski on February 21, 2014, 10:29:55 AM

Quote from: seeksilence on February 20, 2014, 09:16:56 PM

It will have favorite terms for the customers. Wait to see...

Unfortunately Avalon and BFL as well as others use that as a company motto and their expected shipping date. If this unit ships then all is good.

The company will have a very good shipping policy for customer since it has the products in hand.

Bicknellski

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Quote from: seeksilence on February 20, 2014, 09:16:56 PM

It will have favorite terms for the customers. Wait to see...

Unfortunately Avalon and BFL as well as others use that as a company motto and their expected shipping date. If this unit ships then all is good.

seeksilence

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It will have favorite terms for the customers. Wait to see...

silver71

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Quote from: papamoi on February 17, 2014, 02:22:49 PM

this guys also promise to deliver before end of march and half the price

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/750-ghs-3ths-miners-from-3565-wwwbitcoinultracouk-469943 for 3 ths

so u choose

It's who do you trust...

People with ZERO POUNDS ON THEIR BANK ACCOUNT, or somebody whose share capital is 1 mio CHF ?

http://companycheck.co.uk/director/918234560

seeksilence

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Official website is in closed testing.

seeksilence

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Quote from: S4VV4S on February 18, 2014, 07:00:16 AM

Quote from: dogie on February 18, 2014, 05:13:21 AM

Quote from: skyfromwell on February 18, 2014, 02:33:01 AM

Just talked with the chip maker and they confirmed that they don't know that UK company.

If they bought the chips from bitmine, then price will NOT make this price work.

Also this chip by design is perfect for 1T system. It is NOT to be smart to make 1.5T system, and it impossible to make 3T system.

Asking them to show a REAL system that is running.

You've still to actually verify your products as well, or respond to my PM or email. Giving you support is a lot different from giving you buckets of our money. We want to give you our buckets of money, but you need to meet up half way and make us feel comfortable enough for us to give you our buckets of money.

Buckets of money.

Lots of buckets of money.
But no safety, no money!

Then be patient. You should be responsible for your own money. There are many honest, smart and hard working persons behind this first 3rd generation 28nm 1TH/s miner. They are also working hard to launch their official website. So just be patient. Be a smart investor hunting for value instead of running into a rush to catch a falling knife.

S4VV4S

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Quote from: dogie on February 18, 2014, 05:13:21 AM

Quote from: skyfromwell on February 18, 2014, 02:33:01 AM

Just talked with the chip maker and they confirmed that they don't know that UK company.

If they bought the chips from bitmine, then price will NOT make this price work.

Also this chip by design is perfect for 1T system. It is NOT to be smart to make 1.5T system, and it impossible to make 3T system.

Asking them to show a REAL system that is running.

You've still to actually verify your products as well, or respond to my PM or email. Giving you support is a lot different from giving you buckets of our money. We want to give you our buckets of money, but you need to meet up half way and make us feel comfortable enough for us to give you our buckets of money.

Buckets of money.

Lots of buckets of money.
But no safety, no money!

dogie

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dogiecoin.com

Quote from: skyfromwell on February 18, 2014, 02:33:01 AM

Just talked with the chip maker and they confirmed that they don't know that UK company.

If they bought the chips from bitmine, then price will NOT make this price work.

Also this chip by design is perfect for 1T system. It is NOT to be smart to make 1.5T system, and it impossible to make 3T system.

Asking them to show a REAL system that is running.

You've still to actually verify your products as well, or respond to my PM or email. Giving you support is a lot different from giving you buckets of our money. We want to give you our buckets of money, but you need to meet up half way and make us feel comfortable enough for us to give you our buckets of money.

Buckets of money.

skyfromwell

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Just talked with the chip maker and they confirmed that they don't know that UK company.

If they bought the chips from bitmine, then price will NOT make this price work.

Also this chip by design is perfect for 1T system. It is NOT to be smart to make 1.5T system, and it impossible to make 3T system.

Asking them to show a REAL system that is running.

seeksilence

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Let's do some statistical modelling for fun: Use E as Expected value, T is some time in the future.
E(return at T) = E(number of bitcoins at t* price of bitcoin at t) + (sale price of miner at T/ discount rate - purchase price of miner at 0) -E(electricity cost) -E(stability cost) - E(other costs)

Here are the questions:
Will the number of bitcoins be the same for option A or option B?
Price of bitcoin is out of our control, up or down?
Which is bigger for the difference (sale price of miner at T/ discount rate - purchase price of miner at 0) for option A or option B? Do you predict a big drop for one of the options?
How about electricity cost, zero?
How about the overheating burns the board and the miner needs to be repaired or shut down for several hours for stability cost?
Any other costs like noise cost?

It seems to be an interesting statistical model. Anyway, think before you move your step.

seeksilence

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The official website will be online in 1-2 weeks. You will get more details then.

You can do your own comparisons for price, occupied space, electricity, stability, noises, depreciation etc in the following cases
a. 1T 28nm vs 1T 55nm ?
b. 1T 55nm vs 5*200G 55nm ?
c. 1T 28nm vs 5*200G 55nm ?

Judge before you do your investment. Price is not the only factor you need to consider unless you have free space, electricity...

dropt

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Quote from: jayson001 on February 17, 2014, 03:11:25 PM

papamoi, thanks for your input, I checked it. It sounds to me a little fishy. I did not find their testing data which is very important. If they have product ready for orders, they should have the miners running for testing. Jingtian miners are running in a pool for about 2 weeks up to now and I found it's running very stable, very promising. Until I can see more, I would put my trust in Jingtian Miners, at lease you see something real there.

Speaking of fishy, you should check out the Papasic project.

jayson001

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papamoi, thanks for your input, I checked it. It sounds to me a little fishy. I did not find their testing data which is very important. If they have product ready for orders, they should have the miners running for testing. Jingtian miners are running in a pool for about 2 weeks up to now and I found it's running very stable, very promising. Until I can see more, I would put my trust in Jingtian Miners, at lease you see something real there.

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Quote from: papamoi on February 17, 2014, 02:56:46 PM

Don t take in account what this bastard of dropt and his gayfriend loshia are babling around

they just do like waste their time and others

but as i said it s better to warn people about costs and returns and make them know that there is other cheaper alternative

because if they pay their miners at this price and with the hashrate skyroacketting there is more than big chances that they will never make any money with it

so it s a friendly advice to any forumers and nothing against u

Drops,
Thank you honey Grin

Yeah papamoi is getting sick and desperate because of us ?
You should join gay side that is a key for sucess Grin

A have a special medicine for the first ass pain when you enter our world The recipe is to stick as many different chips in your ass and start hashing from the first try papamoi Grin

And finally just spread your chicks wide open and publish the Incredible miner Pcb as open source Grin

Ps: skip the firmware it will be too shity and stinky for sure Grin

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