Topic: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. (COINS RETURNED) 40 BTC reward. - page 6. (Read 19793 times)

did you send it to one of your own old instawallet accounts? 

Client: Satoshi
Fees are manually set to 0.001/kb. Sometimes an old client that uses .01/kb is used.
User has received funds from a service that gives out bitcoins, but at various exact amounts, as a sendmany.
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/1914667/131cc29906bb30cb6cf5921648ffe75cdbffc109a083fc18c9b4fd3cd06176e9
User was paid by someone that was a StrongCoin user:
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/1914644/05c5a67b4657c6bf6329a656a63eb03f6629fc16eec23539e896e649d844ec5d

Transactions are also quite frequent and small. Probability that this is an e-wallet: 90%

Could it be instawallet?

I got a link that can help us follow this up more easily: http://blockexplorer.com/address/1DMLq4UF1yWn9kTC8a6fvVcMzLizuShaz


I saw a lot of smaller (split) transactions here: http://blockexplorer.com/address/1N3z4a7YDf6A7GAWRuv9asLLuxtPvo2fKX
after following one of the leads from the first address I saw (one with 400BTC).

I think it should be possible to find numerous other addresses that belong to the same wallet...

for example, all of these other addresses must be in the same wallet because they combined funds from that address within a transaction.

1EJqEgnZzjdGgGNJYd4LyZ6Q1VDw3DfqZY
13ooNQrbe7GnV9VvLiTfhf4L2iu1cPHED2
1BwX9YPVGnhnwKzkT3qjP5aXLitkt3jNEo
17Xm25WrxNaytY8wrYSYcqX9XW2Gx7YoSA
1H471yWN6CfEqepPmzehGAmMxBDLVJ6SNN
1B8fTwn6FPe3GUHMDJLcav4qHHcU1XWVaA
164jeidGsDbJYKDMSAs6aerMmFY3hCgqum

Here are a bunch more addresses that might be part of that same wallet - but only if some assumptions I have made about which is the "change" and which isn't are correct.  This payer seems to habitually pay amounts just 0.005 BTC shy of a full bitcoin.  (It could be a service that charges a 0.005 transaction fee on withdrawals)

1KXNSsa4B6fSMeL6dif3eYsj3LvVAKnfWR
13hSfg1fjbPG8z1MR7gyxosysYGjEf5wc3
1BY561eAqtaRScvx7cKzNp6cqxU7joxoN4
1SRkzLgZwjuNcfmTzpWuTyV6wCNNAgJEX
18nKwh2EFexX8rx1XvTNip2J9dforHpGrn
1M4xpwJGoTVmVgiswvEyYhr964EwKejD18
1HZx6ekPuVGuzkePNynTYhno1NefSGa4HT
17yqzuZBBWYLeFYZeN3f1xbXQS5Ee1SYNV
15UUvE2nAQ1RocSiCmb28y4CD6uvwhVErx
14ULRw47osGnACc6i9JMyJP2oYv6Ct6ZSM
1Ade8DBpwjCBCZAGrJPZyJgSHnDbrWGUjS
1Pu37ASqGtfYCJghbTh3GUcEJrg9J6isnA
1M3xcMsYT8sUJ9y7DFVhjFKMPjNuT3gJbe
1FRyj6fZ1LugCZyZ36xYeJDKEVTKhFbXQ1
1Ge78XW4REMcP6PF4pn6WfGGG8WHaSXEYp
1NpozNnumS8dkQMJknmjWSa5jhYEn8w4e4
18NenGcKKCm9K2P9F2NiXA7hwC6ZXX9Q9G
1DzgXxR5uM1nRfymW75ZHiojatuCWHM848
17XzWqEferzhCpeM5VfaxV7zEvwzkZp6c1
1dE1mxFDjL8GXia59xtjGx2QLqhfbDfJx
1CebLe1FN4KfWkuezGFH7dK89ffSJDCg1y
1NE8Z6Ec6GSCUiBah4KNcWHNW1Af1zUAtH
1tCmE7CgBLqpMa9zH69sh7cGK9YdsQxq4
1NwXrF67LBJnknJ9TD4aypEW42Qv3P6JaV
1Fo2EnSF4VAURUMTAJYZkSRXAdWHSLrPpX
18oycKHEU7a51iyUomhyycFQsZSUTbHA1f
1PCyTxPbVbX7hhjKhbXKB1SiwVaAeH3Ak8

I was just thinking that.I could use some of that.Anyways, I'll help by checking all my btc accounts. Just wish my 2 BTC clients didn't take such a longtime to show me (it's refreshing blockchain info atm) whether or not I recieved channgs 400BTC by mistake or not

I bet I am not the only one who likes to ask: Goat, who is that four eyed fat white fuck on your icon? How much did he pay for you to get the picture taken?
   

I think they are both pretty rare (by which I mean people lose cash 1000000x more often that bitcoins). If there is some loss-per-use-imbalance against Bitcoin it's because people have had way less time and practice with it.

He clearly does care, or he wouldn't have posted this.

Also, sorry I don't have any information for you.

You must have lots of money to not care about 400 BTC you lost. Anyway, sorry for the unhelpful message, I hope you get your 360 BTC.

That's kind of the point. If Bitcoin is like cash and this is like losing a wad of cash, who does that? It happens very rarely with fiat cash, but frequently with Bitcoin.

Not nice to kick the guy while he's already down... 

Jesus...

a fool and his money soon part...

Here is the main problem like most issues in technology, user-error! You cant fix user-errors and trying to reduce user-error could just turn into code-errors.

If someone is doing finances and get distracted, maybe they should not being doing finances at all. That said whatever goat did/didnt do is his responsibily and he stated so himself.

I don't mean a change in Bitcoin, just make the client a little more idiot proof. For instance, the address book and the transaction pages look very similar and could be confused if one were distracted. Maybe simply requiring a label would help this.

Nothing needs to be done about this. It was a valid address, just an old one. I seriously don't know how someone can be so careless to lose 400 BTC this way and it wasn't even 400, that was lucky. It could have been 3000. I re-check the addresses I either send to or give someone else even if it's 1 BTC. For a 3000 BTC amount I would triple check. This sounded like he just copy pasted some random address while surfing porn meanwhile.

I'm sorry for the loss but saying that this requires changes from Bitcoin is ridiculous.

Ever lose a wad of cash? It happens.  Doesn't mean the system is broken.  There's a reason bitcoin-qt client gives you a new address for each transaction.

If a Bitcoin veteran can make this kind of mistake, something needs to be done to make the addressing foolproof.

So you don't keep track of your transactions?

It's an address you've used before, so check email, PM, IRC logs to see who sent it to you. I understand that it would be close to impossible to find out who owns a randomly created, valid address, but if you used it, it should be trivial. That's why you tag your addresses.

Did you send the 1.96 BTC to that address or did you receive the 5.995 BTC (partially) from that address? Your 2 statements above seem contradicting to me.

The info I found are so useless?