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Topic: 70 years after the Victory: Lest We Forget (despite every effort to do so) - page 5. (Read 6323 times)

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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
The USSR and the Nazi Germany were both leftist countries (yes, you read well: leftist)
"fascist = leftist"
-Snail2

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Nazi Germany = Fascism = top right hand corner.



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lol what?

Germany and Russia hated each other they were ideological enemies. the non aggression pact your talking about only dealt with splitting up Poland.

Educate yourself a bit more. The USSR and the Nazi Germany were both leftist countries (yes, you read well: leftist) and for a long time they had strong economic, R&D, and political connections. This cooperation wasn't a honest friendly thing I guess, but more of an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" attitude. Later when they no longer needed each other this attitude changed drastically but basically they were allies during the thirties.
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Sorry mate, but this one is a big pile of sh... rubbish: http://stanislavs.org/the-hungarian-amnesia/

Well we true Hungarians used to celebrate the Day of Honour on the 11th of February. Politicians, jews, (aka the Elite) and their brainwashed zombies used to celebrate with you guys. (Be happy with it.) But they are not us, and their heroes are not our heroes, and no we are not at all grateful for exporting democracy and freedom for us :/.
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Yes Hitler saw the English as racially pure but when Britain declared war he intended on conquering them.
this is not true at all, hitler tried several times to make peace even after dunkirk when things looked hopeless for the uk, he wrongly believed we would do what was best for our country and and save the empire instead of kamikazing ourselves for the jews
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I was waiting for a post like that.

The ussr was the true reason Germany lost if Germany had conquered Russia Britain and anyone else would have been crushed by Germany.
except that germany didn't want go to go war with britain

Yes Hitler saw the English as racially pure but when Britain declared war he intended on conquering them.
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I was waiting for a post like that.

The ussr was the true reason Germany lost if Germany had conquered Russia Britain and anyone else would have been crushed by Germany.
It is true that USSR did help. But it was only because Germany attacked Russia in spite of previous agreement which stated that Germany and Russia will split Europe and rule together.

lol what?

Germany and Russia hated each other they were ideological enemies. the non aggression pact your talking about only dealt with splitting up Poland.

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I don't think they want to "rewrite history" or are trying to deny the victory, which was in large part achieved by Russian troops. You seem to be ignoring that it's all about the current situation in Ukraine.

The current situation in Ukraine is a boil that burst. Another such boil is festering in Moldova. The rewriting of history started in the beginning of the 90s, after USSR got broken apart. You can see some of that process in the articles that I translated.


I was waiting for a post like that.

The ussr was the true reason Germany lost if Germany had conquered Russia Britain and anyone else would have been crushed by Germany.
It is true that USSR did help. But it was only because Germany attacked Russia in spite of previous agreement which stated that Germany and Russia will split Europe and rule together.

It was a non-aggression pact, it didn't say anythign about splitting and ruling Europe. And USSR needed that pact to avoid fighting on two fronts - remember that Japan was on an offensive - to stall Germany a bit.
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I was waiting for a post like that.

The ussr was the true reason Germany lost if Germany had conquered Russia Britain and anyone else would have been crushed by Germany.
It is true that USSR did help. But it was only because Germany attacked Russia in spite of previous agreement which stated that Germany and Russia will split Europe and rule together.
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I don't think they want to "rewrite history" or are trying to deny the victory, which was in large part achieved by Russian troops. You seem to be ignoring that it's all about the current situation in Ukraine.
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I was waiting for a post like that.

The ussr was the true reason Germany lost if Germany had conquered Russia Britain and anyone else would have been crushed by Germany.
except that germany didn't want go to go war with britain
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some victory, was it worth it?








I was waiting for a post like that.

The ussr was the true reason Germany lost if Germany had conquered Russia Britain and anyone else would have been crushed by Germany.
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some victory, was it worth it?






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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
Maybe Russia should deprive USA of the Statue of Liberty - it no longer deserves it.
Given the USA's recent anti-immigrant sentiment, you're right about that. Doesn't seem particularly relevant though...
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This year marks the 70th anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany. And it also seems a pretext for the West to rewrite history, so as to exclude USSR in general and Russia in particular

German President and Chancellor are not going to attend the Victory parade in Moscow, prompting Russian activists to start a flashmob campaign to congratulate Merkel with the Victory day:
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201503171527-849z.htm
Simply send a postcard with congratulations to:
Deutschland, Willy-Brandt-Straße 1, 10557 Berlin Bundeskanzleramt, Fr. Angela Merkel

Slovak President is also not attending, presumably because of Crimea's reunification with Russia and of the genocide of the Russian population in Ukraine:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2015/03/18/n_7025177.shtml

USA went a step further. The Los Angeles Times proposes to deprive Moscow of the Victory parade altogether, and conduct it in Kiev instead. Saying that more Ukrainians than Russians died in the war percent-wise (errr.... that was USSR at the time).
http://russian.rt.com/inotv/2015-03-18/Amerikanci-predlagayut-lishit-Moskvu-parada
How do they see such celebration? Under the banners of Bandera's punisher battalions and swastikas?! Maybe Russia should deprive USA of the Statue of Liberty - it no longer deserves it.

Lest We Forget.

I translated a series of articles from the Russian newspaper "Argumenty i Fakty", written by Georgij Zotov a travelling journalist, reporting from several Easter-European capitals, seeing how the history is remembered (or altered) there.

Poland:
http://stanislavs.org/the-sorrow-of-a-warsaw-woman-why-poland-is-not-happy-to-be-liberated-from-fascism/

Hungary:
http://stanislavs.org/the-hungarian-amnesia/

Austria:
http://stanislavs.org/blood-and-vienna-even-after-70-years-the-soviet-soldiers-are-respected-in-austria/

Czechoslovakia:
http://stanislavs.org/prague-winter-what-is-the-czechs-attitude-towards-the-coming-70th-anniversary-of-the-victory/

Germany:
http://stanislavs.org/repentance-of-berlin-after-70-years-the-germans-have-an-unambiguous-attitude-towards-the-soviet-victory/

Added 09.04.2015:
I translated an article, accounting memories of war from one of the participants of the first Victory Parade, Stanislav Lapin:
http://stanislavs.org/wwii-veteran-stanislav-lapin-i-had-my-own-score-with-hitler/

Added 13.04.2015:
In memory of all those fallen when liberating Crimea 71 years ago.
“Sophie” against Canaris. She fought for USSR, but became Hero of Russia
http://stanislavs.org/sophie-against-canaris-she-fought-for-ussr-but-became-hero-of-russia/

Added 19.04.2015:
Ungrateful Europe. What would have happened should we push Hitler back just to our borders
http://stanislavs.org/ungrateful-europe-what-would-have-happened-should-we-push-hitler-back-just-to-our-borders/

Added 07.05.2015:
President Putin's account of his family's fighting and survival in blockaded Leningrad
“Life is such a simple, yet cruel thing”
http://stanislavs.org/life-is-such-a-simple-yet-cruel-thing/

Added 09.05.2015:
http://stanislavs.org/victory-day-70-years-anniversary-of-the-defeat-of-nazism-in-germany/
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