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legendary
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June 07, 2014, 12:29:14 AM
I'm a little skeptical. philipzhai appears to be a newbie, but take a look at the addresses he claims the coins were stolen from:

1CLn42dHFuXAd7o9bgrsCRmfDvLavRoxTq is over a year old and there are 121 transactions for a total of 5,657 BTC. In the first transaction, it received nearly 900 BTC.
1H4esgi6KwhDtVXZXJ12AS7QEwdeQighn4 has been receiving mining income for almost 2 years.

Do you believe that the original post was written by someone that has been mining for nearly 2 years and has more than 100 transactions worth 5657 BTC?
sr. member
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'Slow and steady wins the race'
June 06, 2014, 11:50:11 PM
The BTC is gone for good (almost certainly)

One thing that I noticed is that a small amount of BTC was sent to BTC addresses associated with the theft and then were sent to another BTC address, however you included a message saying the funds were stolen when the coins were transferred out of the address, not into the address. I would presume that the person who signed the transaction to send the coins out of the address was able to include a message saying the coins were stolen.
legendary
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June 06, 2014, 10:50:13 PM
It's gone. You won't be able to do much about this unfortunately. You'll have to take the loss.
legendary
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June 06, 2014, 10:41:35 PM
I was tracing address and found this one. https://blockchain.info/address/19j4FchgymsbQDmFdx4VdC4vjzfX5fCh4K
9.09$ transaction  (https://blockchain.info/address/13YFV8ci44svtjfSQ7XzN3m6SNS3ksHW8m)


someone posted it here  http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zjqgg/dangers_of_using_blockchaininfo_receive_api_they/

You should ask from this guy http://www.reddit.com/user/DeftNerd  that who owns 19j4 address maybe you can find a clue about your coins.
sr. member
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June 06, 2014, 10:24:45 PM
I thought a double-direction arrow and "n/a" in the transaction field in Bitcoin-Qt represented a transaction between addresses within the same wallet?
correct he has sent them to the same wallet or used an online wallet
there is still no proof that any btc has been stolen from a private wallet
legendary
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June 06, 2014, 10:22:04 PM
if you have not tried to restore the wallet yet you may find this useful:

I would seek the advice of some others before trying it , but if the btc is gone from that particular wallet i don't see how it can hurt anything.

In your case you would need to get what you are certain is a clean computer to run the bitcoin client on and I will describe how to rebuild your wallet,

1) Back up your entire folder that holds your wallet..  On windows find that in your directory

Users\name\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin   back it up in a safe place offline if possible

2)  Start the qt wallet and export a log of all your present transactions and id's for safekeeping. From the transactions tab of the wallet click on file , export and save it in a safe place.

3) Click on Help, then debug window and finally the console tab to bring up the command line

4) On the command line type (no quotes) "listaddressgroupings"  Copy and paste all the addresses to a text file. You can do them one at or time or all together. Save that text file but keep it open.

5) For each address (you may have only a few or several) type on the command line of your qt wallet (again no quotes)

'dumpprivkey' and a space then after paste in the address.  The client will then give you a long set of letters and numbers.  Copy and paste this with the address it matches up with in your text file to use later.

6)  Repeat step 5 for each address that you have.  You can copy each individually as you go or you can wait until finished and copy and paste the entire thing to a windows text file.  Don't forget any.  When finished save that text file in a safe place.  If you copied the entire list at once windows may give you an error about saving special characters (should be safe to ignore).

7)  Close the wallet.  Delete anything in the Users\name\AppData\Roaming\BitCoin folder  EXCEPT your conf file (unless you don't have one) and make sure you have everything backed up.  (Not recommended to back up in this folder). 

Cool Make sure you have the most up to date version of the bitcoin client qt wallet installed.

9) Use the same method as in step 3 above to open the command line.  Get that text file with the list of addresses and private keys and type on the command line (again no quotes) 'importprivkey' , a space, then paste a private key after it and hit enter. Wait a few seconds for the client to accept the command. Repeat as many times as necessary depending on how many private keys you had. Don't forget any.  If you try to do one twice you should get an error.

10) Close your qt wallet up. It does not matter how much of the blockchain may have downloaded. Now let the entire blockchain download. Do not try any transactions just let it rolll.

11) When the blockchain is complete normally your coins would all be in there where they belong.  If  they were stolen by someone cloning your wallet and using these keys to steal them they will not be there. 

12)  Good practices: Never allow anyone to have access to your private keys.  Keep the swap file disabled on any computer you use. If you own a large amount of bitcoin like this you should keep it in a secured (locked) wallet with a complex passcode which you can also encrypt and store off line


I saw a few other useful posts in this thread earlier for security in general.  Most of it seemed like sound advice.

The method I described above is normally what would be used if you had lost coins from a paper wallet or if your wallet.dat file was corrupt for some reason and would not properly load or 'show' your coins.  Just make sure that in this case you are performing this on an entirely clean system since you have not tracked down the method the thief used.  I would even take the precaution to connect to the web to get the blockchain from a friends home or alternate source in case your local network is owned and the thief has control depending on your experience with these things.
legendary
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June 06, 2014, 09:40:59 PM
I feel like all these stories require further investigation. As much as we all like to talk about backdoors and keyloggers, I have yet to hear ANYONE losing their accounts to keyloggers.

there has actually been some scamming alt coins which has a trojan in their wallet program to steal your btc wallet.dat..

thats why any altcoins i get go to coinex.pw and get converted to btc, and then only store btc long term away from exchanges


Hearing this makes me sick to my stomach.  Seriously Sad   I am really sorry to hear about your loss...
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June 06, 2014, 09:02:57 PM
newbie
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June 06, 2014, 08:58:54 PM
I need your help!

I have 2 bitcoin-qt wallets, and yestarday one single transaction happened to both of my wallets and my 90 some BTCs were transferred out of my wallets. I don't know what happened and if it's possible to recover. The blockchain information is as follows:

https://blockchain.info/tx/32d070a547e9d2cc2de4dc453cea27789bf33f1c983ffdc7f28ce3419e70c9d5

On my wallet client software, in the transaction record column, the "address" shows a n/a, and the summary shows a double direction arrow.

How can two wallets be made to transact at the same time with a single transaction? The two addresses are as follows:

1CLn42dHFuXAd7o9bgrsCRmfDvLavRoxTq
1H4esgi6KwhDtVXZXJ12AS7QEwdeQighn4


Is it possible to track down the thief and recover my lost?

Truly,
Philip
[email protected]

Hate to hear that! But yeah pretty sure they're gone for good.
hero member
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June 06, 2014, 08:47:22 PM
Could be an inside job. Have any "friends" used your computer that know you have bitcoin?
legendary
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June 06, 2014, 05:35:18 PM
i think your wallet was cloned , then they just made a new 'address' , sent the coins to themself & good luck from there.....

you can continue to trace them through the block chain

even if someone uses a coin mixing service read this paper for some information on how to trace them

http://www.scribd.com/doc/227369807/Bitcoin-Coinjoin-Not-Anonymous-v01

sorry this happened but with that amount of btc you really need high security precautions , which it appears most people in the thread before me posted

ps not sure if mentioned previously , i keep the swap file disabled always , among many other protections
legendary
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June 06, 2014, 05:31:12 PM
i followed the highest btc transits on blockchain,
31.9 btc when to 16PcMrZWvkLkQxLDotsSWaYgjVD9GoDspa
then they trans 31.9 btc to 1G5pbFtm7ap95wqe2JsZ9EqEA5YQR3GKiQ
16PcMrZWvkLkQxLDotsSWaYgjVD9GoDspa sends alot btc to 1G5pbFtm7ap95wqe2JsZ9EqEA5YQR3GKiQ
1G5pbFtm7ap95wqe2JsZ9EqEA5YQR3GKiQ then sends 100.5btc to "14S2wx2zzj7aJz4gpJSvAXSAvYr9vyNBYi " owned by known scammer here on the forums as  KRUNIAC https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/kruniac-scam-asic-1-share-229612
then sends 100btc to 1BCjb4BMqLHPdHh1SbeoELQSUfa8NYcacu last stop
https://blockchain.info/tx/cc5ffebb7741a0f6ba77ceba6c6f8bb5a51107439742e421b64e5e982699719c

Interesting! Thank you very much!
You seem to be an expert on this. Then how can we communicate with KRUNIAC?

Gratefully,
Philip
If the btc were sent to a mixer or exchange, then the exchange could simply be moving them around. But if not, then the lead sounds solid.

However, it is also safe to assume that the thief is reading this thread right now, and by providing the information of where you think the coins are, and provided it's correct, he will know for sure if you are onto him or not.

Addendum: Looks like this thread is rather old, shame I didn't look at the date.
legendary
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Keep it dense, yeah?
June 06, 2014, 05:29:20 PM
This reminds me of the end of 2013, I think, when people started to randomly get hacked. Good thing you only lost 90BTC. Numerous people lost all of their life savings.

What makes you think that the 90 BTC isn't the vast majority of his wealth?
sr. member
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June 06, 2014, 05:21:06 PM
That hurts I am sorry to hear about your loss but those Bitcoins are gone
Cold Storage would have prevented it but you must have downloaded a keylogger that was able to send the Bitcoins somewhere else


Yeah I hate hearing these kinds of stories as well. There are a lot of bad actors in this new economy.
sr. member
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June 06, 2014, 05:20:13 PM
Multiply your lost times nine and you'll be pretty close to what I had stolen from me by davout, staff on this forum, with his infamous InstaWallet "hack", and thanks to creative 'coin washing' the bitcoins now reside in one of his fat bitcoin wallets.

BTW, davout owns Bitcoin-Central, of which is backed by a bank, if you call Lemon Way a bank with having only one entity under their belt - an app. Three days prior to the "hack" Lemon Way asked via Twitter where he could get his hands on some bitcoins. Luckily, Paymium was only walking distance from their back door - literally!

That said, I'm on a crusade to fight for you, moreover, me, via exposing every motherfucker that enters this space that doesn't pass muster. I, personally, won't stop till I'm reunited with my 1,132 BTC that David Francois (François), et al. has stolen from me.

~Bruno Kucinskas

That kind of loss might have me on a crusade as well. I hope you get it all back at some point.
legendary
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June 06, 2014, 05:17:19 PM
That hurts I am sorry to hear about your loss but those Bitcoins are gone
Cold Storage would have prevented it but you must have downloaded a keylogger that was able to send the Bitcoins somewhere else
full member
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June 06, 2014, 05:14:10 PM
Use a cold wallet next time.


I imagine losing 90 BTC is enough to taint this poor guys thoughts about Bitcoin.
If you do stick with it. Do as others have said and use Cold Storage for large amounts and get Linux as apposed to Windows.

legendary
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June 06, 2014, 05:12:07 PM
Multiply your lost times nine and you'll be pretty close to what I had stolen from me by davout, staff on this forum, with his infamous InstaWallet "hack", and thanks to creative 'coin washing' the bitcoins now reside in one of his fat bitcoin wallets.

BTW, davout owns Bitcoin-Central, of which is backed by a bank, if you call Lemon Way a bank with having only one entity under their belt - an app. Three days prior to the "hack" Lemon Way asked via Twitter where he could get his hands on some bitcoins. Luckily, Paymium was only walking distance from their back door - literally!

That said, I'm on a crusade to fight for you, moreover, me, via exposing every motherfucker that enters this space that doesn't pass muster. I, personally, won't stop till I'm reunited with my 1,132 BTC that David Francois (François), et al. has stolen from me.

~Bruno Kucinskas
hero member
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June 06, 2014, 04:35:20 PM
This reminds me of the end of 2013, I think, when people started to randomly get hacked. Good thing you only lost 90BTC. Numerous people lost all of their life savings.

Ah, only BTC90, no big deal then. Grin

I'm not being apathetic when I say that. Just saying it could've been worse.
sr. member
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June 06, 2014, 04:27:32 PM
Cold storage is the only truly safe option. Why in the world do people still not secure their coins after so much theft and fraud? 
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