Topic: KRUNIAC Scam ASIC 1 share (Read 21628 times)

Not any more. All three nicks on IRC landed me a nuke. I don't come around OTC any more for that reason.

he also uses the nick DrBms on IRC.

I cannot do business with that username if it's linked to me.


False.


False. You have no proof of this. You're ignorantly throwing out attacks because you're helpless. Your opinions do not matter. Your judgements involving other people's success do not matter. You might as well not exist. Poof.


Orly.


Noooooo sir. Not only do I like it, but my girlfriend digs it. You don't cross the females. XD

There's always the hair.

@OP: Dude, cut it. There's people making wigs for cancer victims paying about as much as you owe for about as much as you've got. It's a win-win resolution, you'll look less like a retarded douche who figures satanism is the answer, a bunch of retarded douches "investing" on an internet forum get their butts back and buy that double soda they passed on in order to save, invest and become interwebs magnates, and some cancer patient somewhere will get to wear hair again.

Keyboard warriors armed to the teeth inbound to your place of employment as I type.

Definitely will be keeping tabs on how this plays out. If there's any precedent to be set, it's the level of brazenness in this scammer's scheme

Its already in effect. Dude is a complete failure and his own parents struggle to find anything to be proud of in him.

This Kruniac guy is a piece of work. Wow.

Where is instant karma when you need it ?

Just imagine if sites like Facebook or Twiter, or even Skype had a trust rating system and labels for certain members.  That would be hilarious. 
Kruniac what is your "other" username?

-- "Riveting", says Mahav of bicointalk.org.

-- "Truly worth the luls." - Kruniac of The New York Times.

Thread = surprisingly riveting read

This thread is fucking nuts.

How is the civil action coming? Do the parties interested in filing want to Skype or something?

If someone takes a dollar from you, they owe you a dollar, right? Meaning they are indebted to you for a dollar. It doesn't matter if there was an agreement to give back a dollar, or if they put a gun in your face - they are indebted to you for a dollar. If a person hands me a dollar, I'm still indebted to them for one dollar. If a person LOANS me a dollar, it's the same. If they drop it by mistake and I take it, it's the same thing.


Yerp.


This is where you and I are going to massively disagree.


I can. I do. Most sociopaths do. Humans are animals, pure and simple. The majority of which are worthless animals at that. This is how I view the world. It's a viewpoint, not a fact to be debated. The irony is that while I don't have any feelings towards a random human, I can have emotions towards random animals. So let's say that humans are a SPECIAL kind of animal.


Nor do I care. That isn't my problem, and their life doesn't interest me. In fact, most people don't have "lives" in my eyes. They just exist for as long as I'm interacting with them. It's not a healthy worldview - I understand this. But it is the way it is. I don't complain.


I don't. I'm an animal too. Doesn't matter if it's food, a woman, business, or friendly conversation, I look at the world through a predatory lens. It's just the way it is.


In a more interesting world. Admittedly, I'd be just another animal snuffed out in that world, but still. It would be interesting.


And we see how much good that's done.


No. You're things in the world. Some of you are useful, others are random things, but you're all just like me. You have families, stories, homes, bills, etc. I don't see why you would think that I don't consider you "people". You're getting the same version of me that others around me get. I'm actually a riot at parties.


I didn't take any dollars from anyone. If someone could prove otherwise, I'd be more than interested. If ANYONE can prove that I have defrauded ONE person of US Dollars, let me know. We both know why I'm saying this, so let me also toss in here that I understand what you're saying.


The irony is that I don't. I make that in ~8 hours of coding something random. Probably a dropdown list of items or something. Maybe do some backend stuff.

I don't say that to be rude - at one point $250 was something that I WOULD NEVER have in my bank account. I understand how it is to scrimp and save, and to be on your ass. I really do. In fact, right now (due to some moves) and before this entire misunderstanding, I was exactly that - flat on my ass. Three cents in the bank, waiting for a task to free up I could jump on it and work.

Hell, I'll be more or less flat on my ass again in about a week, due to certain expenses. Hopefully I'll be back up in a month or so.


1: I have 0 Bitcoins.

2: I don't have the USD to purchase Bitcoins right now.


I wrote a long monologue about you being naive, but I deleted it. I don't know what I can say to this.


I'm almost positive that (while I haven't done anything wrong or illegal, etc) I haven't tried to excuse myself. You'd probably be better off chalking this up as "He's an evil person."

I know a guy who ran a broad from the UK for ~$1,800 USD - her life savings. It took weeks of pandering, false promises, disgusting romantic interactions. She was obese, had no self-esteem, cut herself, and was an alcoholic.

$200 for a "passport". More for "expediting". More for a "flat". Beastmode predation clicked on, and this guy I know just ran with it. The truly horrifying thing was the feeling in his chest as the poor mark got deeper and deeper into the trap.

The reason? He didn't have any marketable skills after getting out of the Army, had extreme paranoia and anxiety attacks, wouldn't leave his apartment, and his girlfriend at the time was not working enough hours at a slavewage job. Rent. The rent. It's always about the rent. I hear he has since gotten much better. It was a one time hit, one person (and her boyfriend, and probably immediate family) suffered, and that was it.

Frankly, there are some people (just some) in this world that will drown you so they can breathe. It's never personal - ever. It's just the way it is.


I mean, sure. Or I could just code. The latter is less risky.


I agree. This is why I'm against "scamming", or any kind of illicit activities.



Anyways. Like I said, we'll see what happens. I enjoy these conversations, but none of these meaningful exchanges is going to put BTC in my wallet to hand out. If there's any kind of charity work going to occur, it will be when I'm at no risk of being homeless by dropping USD on BTC. It's that simple.

Now I gotta get some pay stubs for this apartment thing. Ugh. First world problems.


I kept writing and deleting responses to this. But all I can say is "Lewl."

Have some advice: Move to the UK, job done

Get student loan, get finance degree, become investment banker, make £100k per year easily. Then give back this, which will seem measly.

It's not actually hard to make big cash, rather than "scamming", or whatever you want to call it.

So is this how you see the BTC we've sent you? A debt you owe? 

I understand and to some extent accept that all living things behave this way, it's instinct-driven. But I can't approve of it in humans, especially not in educated ones. And you know why? Because you know your pecking order is wrong. You can't generalize "random people" as a group of mindless sheep. You don't know those random people, you don't know their story or how good or shitty their life is. Why should you treat them like they aren't as human as you? Where would we be if all the people we knew behaved this way? If your family didn't respect others and didn't show you goodness, if your dad didn't care about you as a kid more than those bucks he gave you?

I think you can only do this (and don't say 'do what?', it's getting old and you know it) so easily because you don't see any of us, we're just some text on a forum. But these are real people. It's 250 dollars you took from me man... I work my ass off to be able to put that kind of money on the side. I'm writing my master's thesis right now, I leave home at 8 am and return at 11 pm, I'm stomped, and now I have to spend time checking this forum every hour hoping that you'll have the decency to give it back.

Yes, Bitcoin is risky. You should only risk what you can afford to lose, bla bla. But I can assure you I would have never dreamed of losing 250 dollars in a day. And I'm not the only one in this situation here. There may be some who were dealing with 50 shares, but that doesn't excuse you. And this, too, you know.

Old picture. I've gained weight. -.- Going from eating ramen and rice to actually stuffing myself regularly has taken it's toll.


First off - What deed? (etc)

Also, if I did do something "immoral", wouldn't it make more sense that I simply don't care, rather than I fail to realize that it's immoral? Or that I justify every action I take to myself somehow? I don't even want to imagine what kind of personality disorder would cause someone to literally not realize an immoral action.


Okay.


And that sucks. Honestly.


Some of you. Others are businessmen.


Sure. And some of you buy blocks of shares. Some of you bid on 50 shares @ 2.5 BTC. No. Give me some of that. I have REAL bills to pay, not "investment money" to throw around. Now, given that I'm not a beggar, and that I either work for my money, or take it (which is work, believe me), there's really only one way to get a piece of that action.

Man, do you think that if I could just drop $1,000, lay in the cut, and make out okay I wouldn't? Of course I would. But the fact of the matter is this - I am at that awkward point in Bitcoin investment between "too poor to do it" and "has the capital to make some serious investments". I can buy a chunk, and starve for a month before seeing a payout. No thank you. Rent.


This was a helluva sentence. I don't even...

Do I really want to tell you I don't know that whoever... I don't even.

I'll tell you that if you want to climb mountains, you'll fall every so often. Swim in the ocean, you can get bitten by a shark. Walk down an alley, you could get killed. Play in Bitcoins, you can get scammed. I don't know how else to say it. If I get taken for 20 BTC one day, it's a cost of doing business. It's akin to getting gutshot in a motel when dealing coke. It's part of the business. If you were dealing in diamonds, human suffering would most likely be part of the business. Insider trading is part of Wall Street. Scammers are part of bitcoins. It's not PERFECT, but it's REALITY.

If someone is starving because they lost 2 BTC, then why did they invest their last $200 in BTC? This is a gamble, it's not a sure thing. Anyone could buy bulk drugs and resell them for 200% markup. Most people don't. Why? It's a risk. You NEVER, EVER rely on getting by on risks. That's just irresponsible. The majority of people willing to buy shares aren't buying one at a time. They are buying twenty. They have coins to toss around. They aren't starving. They aren't getting evicted. They're fine.

The only exception I'll make to that statement is the off chance that someone gets hurt/killed because they couldn't explain the loss of BTC to whoever fronted them the coins. An unlikely situation, but it could happen.


I didn't vanish like a Nigerian. I didn't lie to any one at any time about who I am. I made an offer for a diplomatic meeting to any who felt like making the trip. I've been a "man" about this from the beginning. Perhaps a disrespectful and/or immature "man", but a "man" nonetheless.


1: You're implying that I've stolen something. This is not true. I have never stolen anything from anyone in my entire life.

2: If I could toss around money whenever I feel like it, I would fill 60% of the loan requests on the forums, set up charities for people who have been scammed, AND pay back every one in this thread at 150% interest. You can call BS on this, but when LordOfTime and SubZero from OTC loaned me a small amount of BTC for shipping costs on a few items I wanted, I paid back at 200% the MOMENT I had the means to do so. I'm more "honorable" than any of you marks think I am, you just don't know that part of me.

The pecking order in my life goes like this.

1: Myself and my girl.
2: Family.
3: Friends and the needy.
3: Associates and random people.

That's how my money has ALWAYS been spent. I grew up observing totally selfless acts of charity (redneck charity - random deer meat/bologna, pawn hoss, etc) from my family to others. My father always tossed me a little money on the weekends to rent a movie or game, even though he could barely afford his home. Generosity is a part of what I believe in.

That having been said, I'm not selfless. I do not put others before me and mine. I do not believe in depriving myself for the benefit of "justice", "charity", or "honor". As always, this isn't a popular viewpoint, but it's the real world.



I'm sure some are. They should stop doing that, for everyone's benefit.


1: I do not want to scam anyone, nor have I ever scammed anyone, etc.

2: No. Absolutely not.


This is something that I literally cannot just "do". You cannot "have" a conscience one day. I don't have one, to my knowledge. If I do, it hits me at random times, and certainly not regularly. Take the Menig situation for example. I'm a bit of a sadist, but some things do in fact make me sad to see. I dunno. It's something I don't want to get into a huge debate about.


Anyway. I'll tell you what. If I sink my teeth into a good long-term project and pull in my usual ~5-7k/month, I'll toss a few BTC around. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that I'll clear all debts at 120%. Again, you don't HAVE to believe this, but if I'm making stupid money, I get generous. If I'm broke, I get predatory. That's just the way I am, and always will be.


20 bodyguards. Sliding walls. Snipers. Oh, we went wild with security.

Did you have a secure-designated sauna?

Kruniac, you seem like a smart guy, so I wonder how you fail to realize the immorality of your deed.

How do you fail to see that most of us here, most of the people you took money from without sending an ASICMiner share to, are guys between 17 and 30 years old, many of us students struggling to pay bills just like you do. We're invested in bitcoin because we believe in an idea, and because we hope to make some money on the side for the future.

Do you really want to tell me you don't know that whoever is here to buy one or two shares of ASICMiner is rich and deserves (or can afford) to be tricked out of 200 dollars?

Come on man, be a man and pay back what isn't rightfully yours. Don't you see that people are hopefully holding on to their chairs in the chance that they might get 0.8 BTC back? Are these really the kind of people you want to scam? If you don't have respect, at least have a conscience.

Just a reminder that this is who we are dealing with here.

1: I haven't scammed anyone.

2: I have a legitimate job.

3: I don't speak with my parents too often - I'm 29.