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sr. member
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January 26, 2014, 09:42:24 PM
#88
First off sorry dude that really sucks. Secondly even if you could find out the person responsible, it's gonna be really tough to get the coins back. I know of several people in here who got scammed out of coins a few months ago. We were able to find out his exact address and identity because he scammed me on eBay too. With that said I reported it to the police but they are not all that excited to jump on a bitcoin case. They did take the report, but I still have yet to see any indication they've even questioned this guy

Lol... did you thought about simply confronting the game face to face and demanding your coins back? even tried maybe to beat him? Why do peopel so often rely on official authority?
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
January 26, 2014, 09:39:06 PM
#87
Let me ask a simple question:

If I get some bTC in my wallet on my computer, encrypt the wallet to a different password, back up the wallet using the standard method on the wallet client, and put that dat file in a USB or another offline computer, does that constitute a cold-storage?

I mean my main computer will still have the wallet and btc in them.

Let us know.

No it doesn't. Cold storage is where the private keys never touch an online computer. Meaning you generate the wallet on an offline computer. The satoshi client makes this hard. You should use something like armory or electrum that offer offline wallets and offline transaction signing.

Suppose I do what I said, about encrypting it with hard password that I don't type in, and backing up the wallet in a dat file on a usb or offline driver.

How secure is it?
legendary
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Merit: 1000
Bitcoin
January 26, 2014, 09:38:56 PM
#86
God this is so aweful sorry to hear this!!
legendary
Activity: 3682
Merit: 1580
January 26, 2014, 09:33:55 PM
#85
Let me ask a simple question:

If I get some bTC in my wallet on my computer, encrypt the wallet to a different password, back up the wallet using the standard method on the wallet client, and put that dat file in a USB or another offline computer, does that constitute a cold-storage?

I mean my main computer will still have the wallet and btc in them.

Let us know.

No it doesn't. Cold storage is where the private keys never touch an online computer. Meaning you generate the wallet on an offline computer. The satoshi client makes this hard. You should use something like armory or electrum that offer offline wallets and offline transaction signing.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
January 26, 2014, 09:33:49 PM
#84
Screw off mate. Do you really think anyone has time for that shit? There are so many easier ways to do it this just annoys the hell out of me.

There should be a button to force people back to the newbie area.

Why? Because I don't prefer some overly complicated and totally impractical method of "securing" my bitcoin wallets? Is this how you're going to spread bitcoin acceptance? Offering round about solutions to simple problems with much more secure and practical alternatives? Yes yes, I know how to make encrypted partitions, run virtual machines, etc but you're tricking yourself into a false sense of security and spreading bad information if you think these approaches offer extra protection.

Stop. The only newb here is you and anyone who propagates that tinfoil hat nonsense. God forbid an actual newb reads that post and thinks that's the right way to secure his bitcoins.

its not overly complicated its simple and FREE cryptography and security that a 12 year old could use and that anyone should be using to protect not only their money but their personal information (documents etc) as well. if you fail to secure your own money don't come crying back to he community when you lose it.

its ok the be a noob but to be an ignorant noob with large amounts of money kept in a digital form is very dangerous indeed.



newbie
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January 26, 2014, 09:26:58 PM
#83
sorry to heat that... maybe have them stored in blockchain wallet would not be a bad idea.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
January 26, 2014, 09:16:58 PM
#82
Let me ask a simple question:

If I get some bTC in my wallet on my computer, encrypt the wallet to a different password, back up the wallet using the standard method on the wallet client, and put that dat file in a USB or another offline computer, does that constitute a cold-storage?

I mean my main computer will still have the wallet and btc in them.

Let us know.
BCB
vip
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Merit: 1002
BCJ
January 26, 2014, 09:01:50 PM
#81
If tools like BitIodine were public, maybe these cases would have more chances, and thefts would reduce frequency.
http://miki.it/pdf/BitIodine_presentation.pdf
http://miki.it/pdf/thesis.pdf

is this your paper?
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
January 26, 2014, 08:51:31 PM
#80
Screw off mate. Do you really think anyone has time for that shit? There are so many easier ways to do it this just annoys the hell out of me.

There should be a button to force people back to the newbie area.

Why? Because I don't prefer some overly complicated and totally impractical method of "securing" my bitcoin wallets? Is this how you're going to spread bitcoin acceptance? Offering round about solutions to simple problems with much more secure and practical alternatives? Yes yes, I know how to make encrypted partitions, run virtual machines, etc but you're tricking yourself into a false sense of security and spreading bad information if you think these approaches offer extra protection.

Stop. The only newb here is you and anyone who propagates that tinfoil hat nonsense. God forbid an actual newb reads that post and thinks that's the right way to secure his bitcoins.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
Small Red and Bad
January 26, 2014, 08:40:32 PM
#79
And the wallet was not emptied, with more than 100 BTC left not taken, Weird!

There's a possible explanation for that. They stole from an old copy of your wallet. Since then you've sent coins to other people (normal spend transactions) and the change has gone to new addresses (and corresponding private keys) that are not present in the old copy of the wallet that the thief has. So consider where you backed up your wallet in the past.


This seems very probable. He hacked into your backup, find it and you'll at least know which machine was compromised.
legendary
Activity: 3682
Merit: 1580
January 26, 2014, 07:13:58 PM
#78
And the wallet was not emptied, with more than 100 BTC left not taken, Weird!

There's a possible explanation for that. They stole from an old copy of your wallet. Since then you've sent coins to other people (normal spend transactions) and the change has gone to new addresses (and corresponding private keys) that are not present in the old copy of the wallet that the thief has. So consider where you backed up your wallet in the past.

I had an email sent to me with a withdrawal confirmation at 21:44, that i tried to cancel but there was an error.

How did you try to cancel the withdrawal? Don't tell me you clicked on the link in the email?!! If you did that you CONFIRMED the withdrawal instead of canceling it. To cancel the withdrawal you do nothing and ignore the email.
cp1
hero member
Activity: 616
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Stop using branwallets
January 26, 2014, 06:18:40 PM
#77
Screw off mate. Do you really think anyone has time for that shit? There are so many easier ways to do it this just annoys the hell out of me.

There should be a button to force people back to the newbie area.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
January 26, 2014, 06:08:24 PM
#76
for anyone else concerned about losing their money I highly recommend the following free way to secure your wallet.

1) Install True Crypt on your PC/laptop and create an encrypted volume that is only mounted manually.
2) Install Virtual Box.
3) Create A Linux virtual machine inside the encrypted volume using a clean install of a popular distro (xubuntu etc)   (I tried ubuntu but its a bitch to get working with Virtual box)
4) Install Armoury, Bitcoin Client, Litecoin etc into the linux virtual machine (whatever trusted wallets you want)
5) Create your encrypted/password protected armory, litecoin and other wallets inside the virtual machine.
6) do not use the virtual machine for anything other than Sending and receiving crypto transactions, do not install anything other than the bare essential tools you need and do not surf the internet with it.

from inside the virtual machine you should also be able to create a paper wallet for cold storage.

NOTE: you will need about 80gb of space if you want to store the entire bitcoin and litecoin blockchains inside a virtual machine.
when you are not using the virtual machine you can pause it (remembering to always Pause when the screen is locked) and dismount the encrypted volume.

if you want to back up all your money all you need to do is copy the encrypted volume to another PC or external HD and  locate the backup far away from your PC (failsafe incase of fire/robbery etc)

this is the most secure way that I have found to protect your Coins while keeping them fairly accessible and safely backed up.

all the tools above are FREE. it only takes your time to learn how to use them properly.

and if you think its too much effort.. I would suggest that its probably not too much effort to secure a few thousand dollars worth of BTC which could be worth 10X that in the coming years.


Screw off mate. Do you really think anyone has time for that shit? There are so many easier ways to do it this just annoys the hell out of me.
cp1
hero member
Activity: 616
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Stop using branwallets
January 26, 2014, 06:00:04 PM
#75
Just for your info, he used an offline wallet...

I was talking about the guy who lost money from btc-e.  But the OP also used an online wallet.  An offline one would be installed onto something with no internet access, so your keys can't get stolen.
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1451
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 26, 2014, 05:51:03 PM
#74
It looks like after going on a spending spree, he's currently down to $23k USD. 

https://blockchain.info/address/1JzAB4QkvvWi6iuLgYKe2wZfb5UA7eLmkB

Or he's just mixing the btc...
sr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 250
Earn with impressio.io
January 26, 2014, 05:33:48 PM
#73
It looks like after going on a spending spree, he's currently down to $23k USD. 

https://blockchain.info/address/1JzAB4QkvvWi6iuLgYKe2wZfb5UA7eLmkB
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1451
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 26, 2014, 05:06:08 PM
#72
Because making a note is realy going t help.
https://blockchain.info/address/1MVeQqkm5Kr91aAkvsQmB9i2g2VQjr9a1j
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
January 26, 2014, 04:57:20 PM
#71

This only works if you never use the host (hypervisor) for anything but launching virtual machines.
If the host is compromised: so is the virtual machine. Keeping it encrypted is about the same security as keeping your wallet encrypted. If you never spend funds, an attacker can't either (assuming the passphrase is secure).


that's where you are wrong buddy... if the encrypted volume is unmounted even with ALL your passwords an attacker would have to somehow scrape the entire volume off your PC.... and given that its 80GB or more in size this could take DAYS or even weeks (with most peoples lousy internet) and if your PC was compromised you could turn it off  and open the encrypted volume from a clean PC on different network and move the money before they got to it.

also being inside a virtual machine makes it exponentially more difficult for any malicious trojan to get at your wallet files which would also be encrypted (even if the host is compromised). so for the very brief period that you actually have the encrypted volume OPEN on your PC any attacker would have to scrape your entire VM then OPEN it with your passwords then take the wallets out and OPEN them again with another set of passwords and then spend the money before you noticed.

this is so much more complicated than simply copying your .dat files and logging your keystrokes.

yes any PC that is connected to the internet can still be compromised but if you make the difficulty too hard.. most thieves give up and move on to the next target.
member
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January 26, 2014, 04:46:57 PM
#70
That's a mad amount, I'm sorry man.

Never trust an online wallet Sad

Just for your info, he used an offline wallet...
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
January 26, 2014, 04:02:11 PM
#69
Damn... That's a lot of stolen Bitcoins... But it seems that your PrivKeys have been stolen and imported to a client for the transfer...

My recommendation is not to store 90 BTC in an hot wallet - if you are not an active BCE trader. Better store them on secure paperwallets.

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