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Quote from: BTCinNYC on January 26, 2014, 04:11:02 AM

Quote from: Lethn on January 26, 2014, 04:00:08 AM

If you kept them on an online wallet then it's your fault for keeping that much money in one place, if I had that much money I would have bought a laptop and stuck it on an offline wallet there and made sure the thing couldn't stay connected to the internet. It sucks that you lost it for sure, don't get me wrong, but I'm getting sick of warning people about online wallets and them never doing anything about it and then coming on here when they finally get it stolen.

Not everybody spends all their time on bitcointalk and sees the same amount of warnings that you do. Maybe instead of being a prick you could use your obviously advanced mind to advance bitcoin . . . maybe by suggesting how the problem can be solved, since the many warnings on random forums is not working for the public. Maybe a better approach is to convince the popular wallet services to recommend offline storage for large amounts of BTC.

So you somehow purchased 90 XBT but didn't ever see any warnings regarding properly securing them? Really? Roll Eyes

cczerouno

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If tools like BitIodine were public, maybe these cases would have more chances, and thefts would reduce frequency.
http://miki.it/pdf/BitIodine_presentation.pdf
http://miki.it/pdf/thesis.pdf

cp1

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Stop using branwallets

Never trust an online wallet Sad

EFFV

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Quote from: loganha112 on January 26, 2014, 12:56:11 PM

Hey everyone I just came across this thread because I had all my BTC stolen from me as well, not from my wallet, but from BTC-E. I contacted BCT-E and they basically did the same thing, just give me all the login and logout times and IP address. I came across this:

79 logout logout use logout button 75.***(My Logout after a while of trying to figure out where my money went)
25.01.14
23:22
78 logout logout use logout button 62.***( Someone else's ip logout)
25.01.14
21:45
77 login success login 62.***(Someone else's ip that used for another login)
25.01.14
21:43
76 login success login 75.***(My IP)
25.01.14
20:51

I find this very odd only because in between those other IP login's, I had an email sent to me with a withdrawal confirmation at 21:44, that i tried to cancel but there was an error. Is there a way to contact BTC-E again to explain this to them? I have all the proof, withdrawal confirmation email at 21:44, and these different IP addresses that show there was a login twice in a row and then my money was gone.

I had approximately 180 ltc and 1.7 btc stolen from btc-e directly after I contacted support for another issue.

I can not trust btc-e again.

cp1

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Stop using branwallets

Sorry but they're gone, that's the nature of bitcoin, it's irreversible. Next time only store a small portion in your hot wallet, make an offline wallet on a usb stickor maybe a raspberry pi.

loganha112

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Hey everyone I just came across this thread because I had all my BTC stolen from me as well, not from my wallet, but from BTC-E. I contacted BCT-E and they basically did the same thing, just give me all the login and logout times and IP address. I came across this:

79 logout logout use logout button 75.***(My Logout after a while of trying to figure out where my money went)
25.01.14
23:22
78 logout logout use logout button 62.***( Someone else's ip logout)
25.01.14
21:45
77 login success login 62.***(Someone else's ip that used for another login)
25.01.14
21:43
76 login success login 75.***(My IP)
25.01.14
20:51

I find this very odd only because in between those other IP login's, I had an email sent to me with a withdrawal confirmation at 21:44, that i tried to cancel but there was an error. Is there a way to contact BTC-E again to explain this to them? I have all the proof, withdrawal confirmation email at 21:44, and these different IP addresses that show there was a login twice in a row and then my money was gone.

phillipsjk

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Let the chips fall where they may.

Quote from: Alphi on January 26, 2014, 05:25:56 AM

for anyone else concerned about losing their money I highly recommend the following free way to secure your wallet.

1) Install True Crypt on your PC/laptop and create an encrypted volume that is only mounted manually.
2) Install Virtual Box.
3) Create A Linux virtual machine inside the encrypted volume ...
4) Install Armoury, Bitcoin Client, Litecoin etc into the linux virtual machine ...
5) Create your encrypted/password protected armory, litecoin and other wallets inside the virtual machine.
6) do not use the virtual machine for anything other than Sending and receiving crypto transactions, do not install anything other than the bare essential tools you need and do not surf the internet with it.

from inside the virtual machine you should also be able to create a paper wallet for cold storage.

This only works if you never use the host (hypervisor) for anything but launching virtual machines.
If the host is compromised: so is the virtual machine. Keeping it encrypted is about the same security as keeping your wallet encrypted. If you never spend funds, an attacker can't either (assuming the passphrase is secure).

Quote from: philipzhai on January 26, 2014, 02:57:29 AM

How can two wallets be made to transact at the same time with a single transaction?

If all else fails, this can be done manually. Coinjoin transactions take advantage of this.

Zeal0t

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To the moon?

Quote from: philipzhai on January 26, 2014, 04:45:56 AM

Now I just want to know how the wallet summary can show a double-direction arrow and a n/a address?
Doesn't that obviously indicate that the transaction is invalid and so it should be reversed by the system?

I am pretty sure the fact that the system has not reversed the action means it will not do so. Sorry about your loss man, don't do anything irrational.

BitCoinNutJob

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Quote from: dissident on January 26, 2014, 09:43:42 AM

Also people who attack the 'retarded sheep public' thinking themselves somehow enlightened and better than everyone else, I'll never understand that... you are NO better than anyone... get off your high horse.

Those who invest/contribute/use crypto are fighting the good fight.

Those who know about crypto or similar yet choose fiat vs it dont represent me, i dont care for them, they dont care for me.

jcoin200

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I would also say to keep any progress made on finding this guy private. When I got scammed the guy was in fact posting on the thread trying to throw people off his trail. It's possible the guy who scammed you has seen this thread and that might motivate them to act more quickly if they think you've got some information on them

dissident

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Make paper wallets and use them as repositories for large amounts... store them in a safe deposit box and/or encrypt images of the wallets in truecrypt archives, never storing more than 5 BTC in any one wallet. Sorry about your loss. It's one of the risks of using crypto currencies at this point. Mainstream acceptance is still a ways off given the technical knowledge required to secure large amounts of cash.

Also people who attack the 'retarded sheep public' thinking themselves somehow enlightened and better than everyone else, I'll never understand that... you are NO better than anyone... get off your high horse.

BitCoinNutJob

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Quote from: ixne on January 26, 2014, 08:10:19 AM

Quote from: the_poet on January 26, 2014, 05:37:36 AM

I agree! The use of Bitcoin must be made foolproof! We can't expect the general public to embrace it if the process of safely storing your money is so damn USER-UNFRIENDLY!

I don't agree. If you are unable to secure your own Bitcoins properly, use a 3rd party online wallet and hope they don't get hacked. That is how our entire fiat banking system works, after all.

Currently fiat is backed by armys though. Bitcoin is new & at best backed by the rich early adopters.

More safe easy hassle free storage is needed if we want retarded sheep public (90%) to embrace it.

ixne

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For everyone who has had coins stolen from their wallet, what sort of passwords are you using? Are they long/random/lots of characters and numbers?

ixne

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Quote from: the_poet on January 26, 2014, 05:37:36 AM

I agree! The use of Bitcoin must be made foolproof! We can't expect the general public to embrace it if the process of safely storing your money is so damn USER-UNFRIENDLY!

I don't agree. If you are unable to secure your own Bitcoins properly, use a 3rd party online wallet and hope they don't get hacked. That is how our entire fiat banking system works, after all.

Bitcoin allows an individual with a modicum of computer skills to store their bitcoins more securely than has ever been possible - far more secure than any online or physical bank. I'm getting pretty sick and tired of people listing this incredibly powerful attribute as something that needs to be fixed for the benefit of all the careless people out there. There is no push-button security system that will allow you to easily access to your bitcoins and keep them perfectly safe - they are diametrically opposed principles, and balancing between the two requires a deep understanding of how both work. If you can't be bothered, give your coins to a bank/online wallet you trust. If you can't be bothered and can't trust anyone, tough luck.

And yes, I do believe in banks - security deposit boxes are great for holding encrypted flash drives with backups, just remember to use a keyfile...

ElGrandJefe

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I started my wallet software for the first time in 5 days, then the two transactions showed up within 5 minutes of each other, as my wallet was updating the block chain. I usually don't keep my wallet software open unless I am making a transfer or expect one. Otherwise I update my block chain around once per week.

There were only two transactions.

philipzhai

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So many transactions happened, but you did not do anything?

ElGrandJefe

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Quote from: philipzhai on January 26, 2014, 07:22:06 AM

Haa, you mean you received BTCs from an unkown payer? Odd indeed.

Yes, and a somewhat larger amount was deducted 12 hours later.

Quote from: philipzhai on January 26, 2014, 07:29:11 AM

ElGrandJefe,
Is this your address?
1NxdocxSrybTnr4ihzHFMwT88aTyCnqcKx

Yes, that's me.

philipzhai

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Quote from: CumAndGetIt on January 26, 2014, 07:32:54 AM

This recently happend to me to , are you sure you haven't been keylogged or anything?

You too? No, I am not sure.

CumAndGetIt

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This recently happend to me to , are you sure you haven't been keylogged or anything?

philipzhai

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ElGrandJefe,
Is this your address?
1NxdocxSrybTnr4ihzHFMwT88aTyCnqcKx

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