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cp1
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Stop using branwallets
January 27, 2014, 12:44:33 PM
That's why you should install it on an unused computer or dual boot to a usb drive.
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January 27, 2014, 12:39:38 PM
for anyone else concerned about losing their money I highly recommend the following free way to secure your wallet.

1) Install True Crypt on your PC/laptop and create an encrypted volume that is only mounted manually.
2) Install Virtual Box.
3) Create A Linux virtual machine inside the encrypted volume using a clean install of a popular distro (xubuntu etc)   (I tried ubuntu but its a bitch to get working with Virtual box)
4) Install Armoury, Bitcoin Client, Litecoin etc into the linux virtual machine (whatever trusted wallets you want)
5) Create your encrypted/password protected armory, litecoin and other wallets inside the virtual machine.
6) do not use the virtual machine for anything other than Sending and receiving crypto transactions, do not install anything other than the bare essential tools you need and do not surf the internet with it.

from inside the virtual machine you should also be able to create a paper wallet for cold storage.

NOTE: you will need about 80gb of space if you want to store the entire bitcoin and litecoin blockchains inside a virtual machine.
when you are not using the virtual machine you can pause it (remembering to always Pause when the screen is locked) and dismount the encrypted volume.

if you want to back up all your money all you need to do is copy the encrypted volume to another PC or external HD and  locate the backup far away from your PC (failsafe incase of fire/robbery etc)

this is the most secure way that I have found to protect your Coins while keeping them fairly accessible and safely backed up.

all the tools above are FREE. it only takes your time to learn how to use them properly.

and if you think its too much effort.. I would suggest that its probably not too much effort to secure a few thousand dollars worth of BTC which could be worth 10X that in the coming years.

A kelogger/remote control compromise will bypass this neatly.
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http://INVESTNCRYPTO.COM
January 27, 2014, 12:34:23 PM
i followed the highest btc transits on blockchain,
31.9 btc when to 16PcMrZWvkLkQxLDotsSWaYgjVD9GoDspa
then they trans 31.9 btc to 1G5pbFtm7ap95wqe2JsZ9EqEA5YQR3GKiQ
16PcMrZWvkLkQxLDotsSWaYgjVD9GoDspa sends alot btc to 1G5pbFtm7ap95wqe2JsZ9EqEA5YQR3GKiQ
1G5pbFtm7ap95wqe2JsZ9EqEA5YQR3GKiQ then sends 100.5btc to "14S2wx2zzj7aJz4gpJSvAXSAvYr9vyNBYi " owned by known scammer here on the forums as  KRUNIAC https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/kruniac-scam-asic-1-share-229612
then sends 100btc to 1BCjb4BMqLHPdHh1SbeoELQSUfa8NYcacu last stop
https://blockchain.info/tx/cc5ffebb7741a0f6ba77ceba6c6f8bb5a51107439742e421b64e5e982699719c
legendary
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January 27, 2014, 07:32:39 AM
this is the nightmare situation....I really feel for you....

have to invest in computer that never goes online and signs transactions.
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January 27, 2014, 06:47:51 AM

There are cases scammers were punished.

Some days ago, I read this thread "List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses". https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-of-major-bitcoin-heists-thefts-hacks-scams-and-losses-old-83794

It seems to me, most (if not all) of those hackers and scammers are unpunished... Sad
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January 27, 2014, 06:44:00 AM
I don't know but I remember reading somewhere that if Bitcoins are obtained illegally, the bitcoin devs can disable those coins, is this true? At least the hacker wouldn't win anything with this.

Anyways good luck friend. Apparently there is no justice in Bitcoin Undecided Every hacker/scammer always runs away with their Bitcoins and they are never punished!

That is wrong and I shall add fortunately. Devs can not disable or return the coins. This is one of the foundations of bitcoin and one of the reasons of its success. If there is a change that will allow devs (or government or law enforcements or mafia or public vote or whatever) to to this, I will migrate to the coin which supports "strong property" and many will do likewise.
Although I sympathize with the OP, Bitcoins are build on the principle: Whoever owns the privkey, owns associated bitcoin balance. This is very important principle.


Can't agree more with you.


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January 27, 2014, 06:24:09 AM
I don't know but I remember reading somewhere that if Bitcoins are obtained illegally, the bitcoin devs can disable those coins, is this true? At least the hacker wouldn't win anything with this.

Anyways good luck friend. Apparently there is no justice in Bitcoin Undecided Every hacker/scammer always runs away with their Bitcoins and they are never punished!

That is wrong and I shall add fortunately. Devs can not disable or return the coins. This is one of the foundations of bitcoin and one of the reasons of its success. If there is a change that will allow devs (or government or law enforcements or mafia or public vote or whatever) to to this, I will migrate to the coin which supports "strong property" and many will do likewise.
Although I sympathize with the OP, Bitcoins are build on the principle: Whoever owns the privkey, owns associated bitcoin balance. This is very important principle.

Your only chance is to find the thief and force HIM (or HER or they) to transfer bitcoins back. No one can do this on behalf on him. In ideal case (thief is known and proofs are clear) police and law should help you to convince him. There are cases scammers were punished.
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January 27, 2014, 05:13:54 AM
I'm really sorry that happened to you  Embarrassed

I don't know but I remember reading somewhere that if Bitcoins are obtained illegally, the bitcoin devs can disable those coins, is this true? At least the hacker wouldn't win anything with this.

Anyways good luck friend. Apparently there is no justice in Bitcoin Undecided Every hacker/scammer always runs away with their Bitcoins and they are never punished!
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January 27, 2014, 05:04:44 AM
Goodluck my friend. Really sorry this had to happen to you. Stay strong and keep trying to track him down.
If you fail, simply do something extra in your life you would never have done before, use it as an opportunity.

Then you can say, well "if I didn't get 90BTC stolen" I wouldn't have had an amazing life changing experience in XYZ/ met XYZ / did XYZ that I always wanted to do.
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January 27, 2014, 04:27:19 AM
#99
1. Download electrum on an offline computer (ideally entirely offline, never-to-go-online-again, I use an old netbook I use as a calculator which I got for $100)

If you decide to use your old pc, you should have done disk formatting before installing electrum.
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January 27, 2014, 04:21:49 AM
#98
It's not going to help

The thief has split the btc up many times already


It is true that it will very unlucky OP can get back his bitcoin. Sad
legendary
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January 27, 2014, 04:20:54 AM
#97

Offer half of the Bitcoins for the people that help, it's the only way to get help.
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January 27, 2014, 04:12:14 AM
#96
It's not going to help

The thief has split the btc up many times already

newbie
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January 27, 2014, 03:53:29 AM
#95
Everyone can join the taskforce and hunt down the owner of this address:

16CLrCq8c1M8qsCYNP5r21AejMWUgZS7uk

The thief transferred my 89.5 BTC into this address.
You will be rewarded with half of the recovered BTC.

Philip
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January 27, 2014, 02:08:44 AM
#94
Lol... did you thought about simply confronting the game face to face and demanding your coins back? even tried maybe to beat him? Why do peopel so often rely on official authority?
Self justice is probably the worst idea I have read here so far. I completely agree that sometimes official authorities don't act on your legitimate interests, but still your proposal is stone age.

I wish you never have a group of dumb gorillas at your door...
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January 26, 2014, 11:40:00 PM
#93
My favorite way for storing long-term Bitcoin savings is an offline Electrum wallet.

1. Download electrum on an offline computer (ideally entirely offline, never-to-go-online-again, I use an old netbook I use as a calculator which I got for $100)

2. Create new wallet.

3. write down or memorize the seed

4. send the bitcoins-to-be-saved to one of the newly-generated addresses

5. Stop worrying about all your BTC being hacked.

I admit this might not be practical for everyone, though. I think that when Bitcoin goes main-stream, there will be hardware-wallets making the whole system a lot easier. After all, all you really need is a tiny processor and a USB to create offline wallets.
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January 26, 2014, 10:15:19 PM
#92
Screw off mate. Do you really think anyone has time for that shit? There are so many easier ways to do it this just annoys the hell out of me.

There should be a button to force people back to the newbie area.

Well actually no, he gots a point, bitcoin isnt making anyone a favour, but anybody could make a favour to bitcoin by adopting it, but it has to be wayyyyy more easier. The more im here the more i dont like the BTC community and i know something about computers.

whats that point exactly? you CBF learning enough about bitcoin to use it wisely? you'd like your money property secured and looked after by someone else? sure there are companies that provide that service for a fee...

I'm not sure why some people are complaining about a free service and free advice, but I'm more than happy to give you a full refund if you are not satisfied...
 Grin
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January 26, 2014, 09:56:51 PM
#91
Screw off mate. Do you really think anyone has time for that shit? There are so many easier ways to do it this just annoys the hell out of me.

There should be a button to force people back to the newbie area.

Well actually no, he gots a point, bitcoin isnt making anyone a favour, but anybody could make a favour to bitcoin by adopting it, but it has to be wayyyyy more easier. The more im here the more i dont like the BTC community and i know something about computers.
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January 26, 2014, 09:54:58 PM
#90
First off sorry dude that really sucks. Secondly even if you could find out the person responsible, it's gonna be really tough to get the coins back. I know of several people in here who got scammed out of coins a few months ago. We were able to find out his exact address and identity because he scammed me on eBay too. With that said I reported it to the police but they are not all that excited to jump on a bitcoin case. They did take the report, but I still have yet to see any indication they've even questioned this guy

Lol... did you thought about simply confronting the game face to face and demanding your coins back? even tried maybe to beat him? Why do peopel so often rely on official authority?

He better take a piece with him. People tend to be armed these days, so even the odds.

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January 26, 2014, 09:47:28 PM
#89
Let me ask a simple question:

If I get some bTC in my wallet on my computer, encrypt the wallet to a different password, back up the wallet using the standard method on the wallet client, and put that dat file in a USB or another offline computer, does that constitute a cold-storage?

I mean my main computer will still have the wallet and btc in them.

Let us know.

No it doesn't. Cold storage is where the private keys never touch an online computer. Meaning you generate the wallet on an offline computer. The satoshi client makes this hard. You should use something like armory or electrum that offer offline wallets and offline transaction signing.

Suppose I do what I said, about encrypting it with hard password that I don't type in, and backing up the wallet in a dat file on a usb or offline driver.

How secure is it?

its secure but not overly secure...  if a key logger is installed on your PC there is a high probability that there is also a trojan waiting for you to plug in your USB stick so it can copy the wallet and send it across the wire.. if they have your password and your dat file that's all they need to steal your money which is why windows is not a good place to store either of them.

if you must use windows/or mac to store your keys.... make sure most of your money is safely locked away in a paper wallet created form a clean machine (ie cold storage)


EDIT: oh wait.. you said "don't type in"... you mean copy and paste from a file? that could be more dangerous than typing depending on how you store the PW. and by that I mean if you put the password in a text file and give it an obvious name or have some obvious tag like "pass" or "pwd" inside the text file then your just asking for trouble. If however you just have some random file somewhere with no distinguishing marks and your hidden password of random characters is embedded somewhere in that file then that should be OK as long as you DO NOT store the password file and the .dat file in the same location. these are called key files BTW and they are used by truecrypt in tandem with typed passwords (two factor authentication) to make your encryption even more secure.

im not aware of any wallet programs that use two factor authentication that's why I recommend truecrypt as an extra layer of protection.

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