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September 17, 2024, 04:44:30 PM
What sort of game machine would even allow someone to play without paid up credit.
Only a machine run by a newbie who doesn't cares much about his/her or their losses but about the satisfaction of the customer, which's more likely an imaginary type of satisfaction rather than something that has any relation with reality.

The cashier was stupid enough to allow a gambler to gamble with the credits without paying in advance or pre-paying for the credits and the cashier was even more stupid that he let the gambler run away without paying him even after losing that many credits.

In such case it's the fault of the cashier or the one who manages such type of gambling area because if they allow such type of activity then in most cases addict gamblers will do something like that.
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September 17, 2024, 04:38:56 PM
The people who had money will had their voice in the law making.This also reason for many countries people doesn’t like to play the gambling,but the country favours the gambling site and allow their citizens to play.If the gambler is civilised person,he will get into less loss or less gain.The random players in the gambling site will make huge profit or huge loss based on their luck in that day.The huge gain in the gambling site not affect the gamblers and give some short term benefits.But the huge losses will make the gamblers more critical financial situation.Sometimes the official of the gambling sites involve in the internal corruption.

The country that allow their citizens to choose between gambling or not to gambling are doing the absolute right time. It's not civilized to detect for people what they can do or not to do. All adults should be allowed to make their own decision and decide if they're going to become gamblers or not. The government should know already that gambling isn't bad as they're making it to be. Casino pay taxes and contribute to the development of the society and they have role to play in the economy of the states they're located. Anyone misbehaving should be punished and not punished everyone because some people didn't know who to behave around casino.

Banning all th casino in the world wouldn't stop gambling because people are going to develop new means on how they can gamble. Something like street gambling and since it won't be regulated, it's going to be more danger than how people are currently gambling in caisnos.
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September 17, 2024, 04:15:55 PM
Once people are desperate in doing an evil deeds, they will be this is the kind of mentality of those that are involved in stealing, they would have given it up on whatsoever thing that may comes out of it, that they are going to take it with fate, in whatsoever thing that comes their way, if we gets caught, then he has given up already, but if he manage to scape at all cost, the next thing to come his mind is about how smart he is.
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September 17, 2024, 03:59:28 PM

That's how it works in most places. As they say, money is power. So, someone wealthy has ssswspowers and authorities will give them priority but this works in countries where constitutions and laws aren't respected the way they should be and authorities and the officials are mostly corrupt so they can do anything for money. That's why, if such a case goes to the police or authorities in such a country, the poor employee will have to suffer more than the loss.

This is why when someone is working in a big firm or a company and if they make a mistake that causes loss to the firm or company, they will have to repay the loss to get rid of the issue unless the owner or the boss is a good human being and they don't take the anger out on the employee but that doesn't happen everywhere.

The people who had money will had their voice in the law making.This also reason for many countries people doesn’t like to play the gambling,but the country favours the gambling site and allow their citizens to play.If the gambler is civilised person,he will get into less loss or less gain.The random players in the gambling site will make huge profit or huge loss based on their luck in that day.The huge gain in the gambling site not affect the gamblers and give some short term benefits.But the huge losses will make the gamblers more critical financial situation.Sometimes the official of the gambling sites involve in the internal corruption.
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September 17, 2024, 03:02:14 PM
Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

I don't think it's about the gambler but it's about the management system, and not necessarily bent on if there's a CCTV camera or not but while operating such offline casinos or shops for betting one need to have allocated for such cause this like the basic requirements for owning such places so some illegal Acts can be monitored and captured as well.
But I think it was taken likely so where I really want to put in more lite on it's the aspect of the cashier not been vigilant enough and smart to take not of this tiny misconduct, when making payments and after win and the gamblers wants to play more payments should be made first, so if it's online casinos would this occur? Of course not,and I don't think there's any means to get hold of the culprit and apprehend him except been spotted out there.so it's a lesson today for such unforseen circumstances.
As for CCTV's then it will really be that something be standard specially into these type or kind of business on which this do really involves huge sum of money that it is transacted in between but we do know that this kind or type of situation isnt something that could really be that solved out but of course trying out to see on whose that gambler and sees up the face will really be giving out that kind of lead in compared into those places which doesnt have these cameras. So it is really that something should have on a business such as this. They arent that expensive but really be very helpful specially into these kind of conditions or situations.Just like on what everyone is telling on here that this is really that on cashier negligence. Who would be the ones on their right mind on allowing someone to bet without having money? There's not definitely you cant be able to
do this on an online casino on which we know that payments first policy will really be always the main requirement for you to push tourh when it comes into your bet. Wondering on whats up with the mind of that cashier?  Undecided
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September 17, 2024, 02:36:34 PM
Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

I don't think it's about the gambler but it's about the management system, and not necessarily bent on if there's a CCTV camera or not but while operating such offline casinos or shops for betting one need to have allocated for such cause this like the basic requirements for owning such places so some illegal Acts can be monitored and captured as well.But I think it was taken likely so where I really want to put in more lite on it's the aspect of the cashier not been vigilant enough and smart to take not of this tiny misconduct, when making payments and after win and the gamblers wants to play more payments should be made first, so if it's online casinos would this occur? Of course not,and I don't think there's any means to get hold of the culprit and apprehend him except been spotted out there.so it's a lesson today for such unforseen circumstances.
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September 17, 2024, 02:00:02 PM
it's a long story but I'll try to make it short as I can for a comprehensively.

Yesterday while I was putting together some predictions for a parley bet as the EPL and other leagues  has just kicked off. In the process I started experiencing network hitches problem which I wasn't getting comfortable with. Suddenly another idea erupted in my head, why not just go straight to any of the sports betting shops closer and book these games at once. So I zoomed off.

On getting there with ease I was able to book my games using their computer and taking my ticket. In the brief time I was in the shop I noticed how one of the cashier was addressing another of the cashier angrily (it was later I learned that he is the head cashier). So out of curiosity I couldn't mind my business, I inquired as to what could be the problem why he was talking with such an angry tune on his coworker.

He then told me how a gambler had walked into the shop and played sessions of virtual games worth #32k (in our local currency) and disappeared without paying. I was confused, like how did that happened I asked. He had to go into details explaining that when the strange guy  played his first game he won #18k for which he didn't ask to be paid but continued gambling using the winning cash until he lost it all back to the shop. Out of confidence, the cashier didn't bother requesting for money for the next sessions thinking that after the guy might have been done gambling he will calculate the total loss for payment to be made or he perhaps might get another lucky win in the middle to cover for it in part or whole since he was able to get a win in the first game played. But unfortunately for him, the strange guy had another intention in mind, disappearing at the slightest minute the cashier's attention was diverted from his sight.

I felt dumbfounded by the stupidity of the cashier as I was speechless to say the least, I just had to tell him that the manager of the shop should install a CCTV camera in the shop to prevent future roguery of this nature.

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

This story doesn't have any sense, or likely any truth to it at all. The first rule that a gambling company follows is to make sure the customer pays up, unless it's some kind of special promotion. They are not going to give someone the ability to free play continuously until they win big, for exactly the reason you have described - they basically end up in a reverse martingale situation. What sort of game machine would even allow someone to play without paid up credit. Nevermind the stupidity of the imaginary cashier, it doesn't make sense as a story that you've come up with for some reason. Nobody is getting arrested in this situation because the police would not even bother showing up to a civil matter like this.
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September 17, 2024, 01:38:22 PM
The sports betting shops in your country has a bad management, the customer need to give the money before able to play, not the other way around. I think this case happened in everywhere, it's risky to let the customer to do whatever they likes but they don't have enough money to pay the bills. The business owner can't do much, it's wasting time to handle this problem, but at the same time they should prevent this case to occur in the future, if not they will ends bankrupt.
Any gambler must ensure that he has that amount of money and deposit it before placing any bet. How a gambler can bet even if he doesn't have enough money. I've never seen that anywhere. If a gambling house were to offer such an opportunity there would be events like the op described. I would totally blame that business owner for that.  Because it's his fault he didn't mention it in the rules and he doesn't have a controller as well. no one can guarantee winning at gambling so no one should ever be allowed to bet without money
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September 17, 2024, 01:03:53 PM
I can't imagine how this gambler could play without money at all. It's a very serious mistake. The owner of this institution should scold not only the employee who allowed this misunderstanding, but also the security staff who did not foresee that this is even possible. So the institution has not lost anything, but it should become a lesson for the owner. After all, if this gambler was lucky again, the institution would have lost a large amount of money.
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September 17, 2024, 01:03:48 PM
It's actually unbearable to see that someone would go into gambling shop to gamble and played continuously without even paying was thinking he would win to cover up his lost. But truth be told the cashier didn't even play wise in her role because it's assume there is no law rules and regulations governing them there because I assumed if there were any then she could had demand for the pay before even placing another bet for him.
I think this is one of the most common gambling bad habits that gradually and eventually morph's into addiction. Most times the moment you get immersed in that loop of trying to recover all your losses from other consecutive bets in just one bet then you end up placing bets without properly thinking everything through and in the end you find yourself betting over and over again to no avail.
If you gambling is fully driven by the emotions of greed to recover all your funds, then you will lose even more and most times before the gambler can notice all his losses he pretty much would have blown his account.  I think it's important to have a prediction pinned in mind before you proceed to trying to place bets.

But the problem is, how can the gambler gamble without making a payment in advance and thus, the casino does not have good rules or does not have strict rules that are applied. Because of course, making bets without making payments is a serious problem how it can happen because it can be practiced by people or players or gamblers who  do not have money on the pretext of paying it when they win. But anyway, the reality is that the person is also unable to win in gambling and maybe, cases like this are also the same as those who gamble but by borrowing money to gamble, until finally they lose and do negative actions and of course that is bad behavior.
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September 17, 2024, 12:58:01 PM
It's actually unbearable to see that someone would go into gambling shop to gamble and played continuously without even paying was thinking he would win to cover up his lost. But truth be told the cashier didn't even play wise in her role because it's assume there is no law rules and regulations governing them there because I assumed if there were any then she could had demand for the pay before even placing another bet for him.
I think this is one of the most common gambling bad habits that gradually and eventually morph's into addiction. Most times the moment you get immersed in that loop of trying to recover all your losses from other consecutive bets in just one bet then you end up placing bets without properly thinking everything through and in the end you find yourself betting over and over again to no avail.
If you gambling is fully driven by the emotions of greed to recover all your funds, then you will lose even more and most times before the gambler can notice all his losses he pretty much would have blown his account.  I think it's important to have a prediction pinned in mind before you proceed to trying to place bets.

You need to have calculated the risk and the loss, before deciding to take the bet. A person who may gamble with these valuations will certainly lose in the long run. Even i can say that you can bet on any team blindly and still be safe if you have managed your portfolio well but if you only study on the teams / players to place the bet and give no value to money management, you cannot be classified as a successful gambler. Managing both your money and risk is utmost important in gambling.
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September 17, 2024, 12:38:56 PM
From what you have described, it seems like there are consequences for mistakes in your workplace, especially when it comes to financial losses. It's true that mistakes can happen in any job, not just in gambling casinos. It's important for both employers and employees to be careful and try to minimize errors. Automating tasks can help reduce the risk of human error.

Yep, and sometimes those mistakes can lead to bad situations Grin Some people are more forgiving than others, but, some situations require the guilty to be punished.
There is a good concept in a professional manager, namely take and give, namely employees who make contributions will be given rewards while employees who make mistakes or cheat will be punished according to the terms and conditions, if I were a gambling businessman and found my employee making a mistake then of course I would punish him, there is no reason to forgive it because the more often it is forgiven, the perpetrator will not understand what is wrong and what is right, that is dangerous.
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September 17, 2024, 12:34:04 PM
It's actually unbearable to see that someone would go into gambling shop to gamble and played continuously without even paying was thinking he would win to cover up his lost. But truth be told the cashier didn't even play wise in her role because it's assume there is no law rules and regulations governing them there because I assumed if there were any then she could had demand for the pay before even placing another bet for him.
I think this is one of the most common gambling bad habits that gradually and eventually morph's into addiction. Most times the moment you get immersed in that loop of trying to recover all your losses from other consecutive bets in just one bet then you end up placing bets without properly thinking everything through and in the end you find yourself betting over and over again to no avail.
If you gambling is fully driven by the emotions of greed to recover all your funds, then you will lose even more and most times before the gambler can notice all his losses he pretty much would have blown his account.  I think it's important to have a prediction pinned in mind before you proceed to trying to place bets.
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September 17, 2024, 11:41:58 AM
it's a long story but I'll try to make it short as I can for a comprehensively.

Yesterday while I was putting together some predictions for a parley bet as the EPL and other leagues  has just kicked off. In the process I started experiencing network hitches problem which I wasn't getting comfortable with. Suddenly another idea erupted in my head, why not just go straight to any of the sports betting shops closer and book these games at once. So I zoomed off.

On getting there with ease I was able to book my games using their computer and taking my ticket. In the brief time I was in the shop I noticed how one of the cashier was addressing another of the cashier angrily (it was later I learned that he is the head cashier). So out of curiosity I couldn't mind my business, I inquired as to what could be the problem why he was talking with such an angry tune on his coworker.

He then told me how a gambler had walked into the shop and played sessions of virtual games worth #32k (in our local currency) and disappeared without paying. I was confused, like how did that happened I asked. He had to go into details explaining that when the strange guy  played his first game he won #18k for which he didn't ask to be paid but continued gambling using the winning cash until he lost it all back to the shop. Out of confidence, the cashier didn't bother requesting for money for the next sessions thinking that after the guy might have been done gambling he will calculate the total loss for payment to be made or he perhaps might get another lucky win in the middle to cover for it in part or whole since he was able to get a win in the first game played. But unfortunately for him, the strange guy had another intention in mind, disappearing at the slightest minute the cashier's attention was diverted from his sight.

I felt dumbfounded by the stupidity of the cashier as I was speechless to say the least, I just had to tell him that the manager of the shop should install a CCTV camera in the shop to prevent future roguery of this nature.

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?
The whole fault lies with the cashier. because normally as a cashier of a gambling bet office you are supposed to be vigilant with your customers more especially in the virtual side because if you are not smart enough you will see that at the end of the day you are going to end up paying unnecessary debts.

One strategy that most customers normally use in virtual betting is after placing a bet without paying immediately. they observe to see how smart you are, and before you know they'll still place another game just to confuse you further. However, I think the best way for a cashier to overcome this is by using a calculator to keep track of the balance, which can help resolve any potential disputes.
Actually its really that part of your job or work on which its just that normal that you should really be that attentive for whatever possible things that could happen. It would really be just that dumb of you
if you do let someone do make out some bets just because you do assume or presume that he might be able to win up the next bet? That would really be a suicide and you are really that putting up your job
at risks or simply losing it. Who would really be on their right minds that will really be letting someone to make out some bet because they are confident that a certain bettor would be able to hit up on next bet?
It would really be just that understandable that human beings do commit out mistakes but this one is really just that too risky for you to do such thing.

When money is involved then it will really be always recommended on having that proper calculations and of course, dont let someone do make out or place bets without paying up.
It is really that common sense. No matter what situations they are into, always be attentive into the work you do have. Always having that secure transactions so that you wouldnt
really be putting up yourself on such tough situations such as this.
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it's a long story but I'll try to make it short as I can for a comprehensively.

Yesterday while I was putting together some predictions for a parley bet as the EPL and other leagues  has just kicked off. In the process I started experiencing network hitches problem which I wasn't getting comfortable with. Suddenly another idea erupted in my head, why not just go straight to any of the sports betting shops closer and book these games at once. So I zoomed off.

On getting there with ease I was able to book my games using their computer and taking my ticket. In the brief time I was in the shop I noticed how one of the cashier was addressing another of the cashier angrily (it was later I learned that he is the head cashier). So out of curiosity I couldn't mind my business, I inquired as to what could be the problem why he was talking with such an angry tune on his coworker.

He then told me how a gambler had walked into the shop and played sessions of virtual games worth #32k (in our local currency) and disappeared without paying. I was confused, like how did that happened I asked. He had to go into details explaining that when the strange guy  played his first game he won #18k for which he didn't ask to be paid but continued gambling using the winning cash until he lost it all back to the shop. Out of confidence, the cashier didn't bother requesting for money for the next sessions thinking that after the guy might have been done gambling he will calculate the total loss for payment to be made or he perhaps might get another lucky win in the middle to cover for it in part or whole since he was able to get a win in the first game played. But unfortunately for him, the strange guy had another intention in mind, disappearing at the slightest minute the cashier's attention was diverted from his sight.

I felt dumbfounded by the stupidity of the cashier as I was speechless to say the least, I just had to tell him that the manager of the shop should install a CCTV camera in the shop to prevent future roguery of this nature.

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?
The whole fault lies with the cashier. because normally as a cashier of a gambling bet office you are supposed to be vigilant with your customers more especially in the virtual side because if you are not smart enough you will see that at the end of the day you are going to end up paying unnecessary debts.

One strategy that most customers normally use in virtual betting is after placing a bet without paying immediately. they observe to see how smart you are, and before you know they'll still place another game just to confuse you further. However, I think the best way for a cashier to overcome this is by using a calculator to keep track of the balance, which can help resolve any potential disputes.
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From what you have described, it seems like there are consequences for mistakes in your workplace, especially when it comes to financial losses. It's true that mistakes can happen in any job, not just in gambling casinos. It's important for both employers and employees to be careful and try to minimize errors. Automating tasks can help reduce the risk of human error.

Yep, and sometimes those mistakes can lead to bad situations Grin Some people are more forgiving than others, but, some situations require the guilty to be punished.
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In my place if the employees make mistake that resulting in financial loss, they will work until they pays off all the amount or the owner will report them to authority and make them going to jail. Although in this story the owner also responsible with the employees' mistake, but the authority will judge based on how wealthy you're than being objective.

Most of them choose to work, even though every month the salary they receive will be cut to recover the loss.

Your place is tough. Every gamblers win = casinos financial loss. Right? If by dealer mistake gambler wins millions in jackpot, that dealers children generations will have to work for casino then? Sounds wrongs.

Casinos employees and dealer especially seems to be most unhappy and unsafe job. If you do something wrong, casino might suffer a huge loss. If a gambler losses, he blames the dealer and threatens him. Not to mention that dealer has to listen all that clients crap and be humiliated by clients.
From what I understand from what you have said, let me point out that, there is actually no job that is completely safe and free from employers or employees making some form of mistakes, and explains the fact rhat happiness is a personal decision afterall.

Someone I know some time in the past, around 2018 was withdrawing around 28 usdt from an exchange known as etherflyer, but instead the exchange sending the 28 usdt, they sent 28 eth instead, I told my friend to send back the money but he refused, like 2 months after, he told me that he contacted the exchange and told them about the error, they customer care told him that it was an employee that made the mistake, and he's been sacked and no longer works for the exchange.

So, this is just to let you know that mistakes are every where, not just with gambling casinos, operators, as well as employees just have to be careful, automate as much that can be automated and minimize manual tasks, cus computers can only carry out tasks it's programmed to carry out, but humans can make some really serious mistakes at times.

From what you have described, it seems like there are consequences for mistakes in your workplace, especially when it comes to financial losses. It's true that mistakes can happen in any job, not just in gambling casinos. It's important for both employers and employees to be careful and try to minimize errors. Automating tasks can help reduce the risk of human error.
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In my place if the employees make mistake that resulting in financial loss, they will work until they pays off all the amount or the owner will report them to authority and make them going to jail. Although in this story the owner also responsible with the employees' mistake, but the authority will judge based on how wealthy you're than being objective.

Most of them choose to work, even though every month the salary they receive will be cut to recover the loss.
That's how it works in most places. As they say, money is power. So, someone wealthy has powers and authorities will give them priority but this works in countries where constitutions and laws aren't respected the way they should be and authorities and the officials are mostly corrupt so they can do anything for money. That's why, if such a case goes to the police or authorities in such a country, the poor employee will have to suffer more than the loss.

This is why when someone is working in a big firm or a company and if they make a mistake that causes loss to the firm or company, they will have to repay the loss to get rid of the issue unless the owner or the boss is a good human being and they don't take the anger out on the employee but that doesn't happen everywhere.

Or if the contract says that you are free to go Grin But it's usually not, of course.
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In my place if the employees make mistake that resulting in financial loss, they will work until they pays off all the amount or the owner will report them to authority and make them going to jail. Although in this story the owner also responsible with the employees' mistake, but the authority will judge based on how wealthy you're than being objective.

Most of them choose to work, even though every month the salary they receive will be cut to recover the loss.
That's how it works in most places. As they say, money is power. So, someone wealthy has powers and authorities will give them priority but this works in countries where constitutions and laws aren't respected the way they should be and authorities and the officials are mostly corrupt so they can do anything for money. That's why, if such a case goes to the police or authorities in such a country, the poor employee will have to suffer more than the loss.

This is why when someone is working in a big firm or a company and if they make a mistake that causes loss to the firm or company, they will have to repay the loss to get rid of the issue unless the owner or the boss is a good human being and they don't take the anger out on the employee but that doesn't happen everywhere.
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If I am the manager of owner of the shop and it did happend for the first time, I'd spare that moment but I'll make sure that a serious punishment will be done to the cashier if ever caught with the same mistake. We have that word about doing it twice is too much and that's what I am going to tell that staff. And before doing any bets, I'll change the policy to pay first before gamble. That is what needed to be enforced for them to have an idea that you are serious with your business and so with customers like that won't be able to bypass the process of the betting shop.

I'll make a sign board to become a reminder that everyone who wants to gamble needs to pay first. No credits, no loans, no whatsoever reasons why they cannot pay first. And will give that sign too of "no pay, no win". That's easier to be understood by most of the gamblers because the betting shop is a business that needs to survive too and not a charity that will just give out winnings to the bettors that didn't even casted any bet or taken a ticket from the cashier.
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