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Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?
Before blaming the cashier which obviously he is the reason why the gambler left the office without paying. The owner of the gambling office poorly managed his business. First, there are no security in the office which means anyone could just walk in there and gamble or rob the office. Secondly, since no human security there was no CCTV. And this is one of the important security system a casino office needs to have to ensure safety of their funds.

Right now, there is no way they can be able to trace the culprit unless the cashier can recognize him outside since he won't dare come back to that same office. These days to start a business is risky and that is why ensuring security in anything we found ourselves doing is important.
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Quite surreal story to be honest. Obviously, the guy who defrauded the gambling/bet shop realized about the security flaw of of establishment long ago, realized there were no clear cameras in sight and also noticed the lack of security personnel near the entrance of the establishment, so nobody would have stopped him on time if someone noticed he was trying to run away from the shop.
Definitely, the cashier is at fault for not asking money before allowing that man to continue to gamble in their shop. Probably, the cashier has done the same with other people who were honest enough so they paid their losses once the finished playing, so he got over confident and opened the his window to the chance of him getting scammed and probably having his job at risk because of his recklessness.
When comes to gambling, one truly needs to have the money on hands before even starting the game, one never knows who is the honored person or the one searching to rip people off.
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Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.
Because the gambler is ready to risk it all. That's both a criminal behavior and a symptom of irresponsible gambling also gambling addiction. The shop owner must have a security at the gate to deter this behavior from others.

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If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?
The amount will.bw deducted from their salary. Next time they'll be smart.

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Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?
It's not worth it. The employees should suffer the consequences of their actions.
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I felt dumbfounded by the stupidity of the cashier as I was speechless to say the least, I just had to tell him that the manager of the shop should install a CCTV camera in the shop to prevent future roguery of this nature.
CCTV cameras don't apprehend people when they're indebted to the casino, neither does it influence them to pay off their debts .... If they're left with nothing to service up their leftovers, there's absolutely nothing you can do....  
I do comprehend where you're coming from about the CCTV cameras but what exactly that makes CCTV cameras important against situations of this nature is should in case the person is caught but denying he's not the one, with the video footage from the CCTV capturing him, you have an evidence to present without further arguments.
And peradventure he doesn't have the money to pay immediately after confirming he is the person there could be a confiscation of any property belonging to him till he pays or his family assist in the payment.
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I don't have experience playing live store gambling, don't know about the mechanism before knowing, is it depositing money first and then paying tickets or what? But what I think is probably depositing money first.

1. It's the cashier's fault for neglecting to pay attention to that person, when there is a gap this brazen gambler has bad intentions if he loses he will run away if he wins it is certain that he will collect the winning money.
2. Depending on if the employee makes a mistake several times, I will fire him, if it's a one-time mistake, there is still tolerance, but I will remind him to be careful again.
3. Because there is no CCTV, it is difficult to identify the strange person, after this incident, the betting shop must be able to increase the security of the guard even tighter.

Yeah, it's a combo of bad factors coming into play, but it's essential for the head of the shop to learn from the mistakes made by his colleagues so that a situation like that wouldn't happen again.
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I don't have experience playing live store gambling, don't know about the mechanism before knowing, is it depositing money first and then paying tickets or what? But what I think is probably depositing money first.

1. It's the cashier's fault for neglecting to pay attention to that person, when there is a gap this brazen gambler has bad intentions if he loses he will run away if he wins it is certain that he will collect the winning money.
2. Depending on if the employee makes a mistake several times, I will fire him, if it's a one-time mistake, there is still tolerance, but I will remind him to be careful again.
3. Because there is no CCTV, it is difficult to identify the strange person, after this incident, the betting shop must be able to increase the security of the guard even tighter.
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I felt dumbfounded by the stupidity of the cashier as I was speechless to say the least, I just had to tell him that the manager of the shop should install a CCTV camera in the shop to prevent future roguery of this nature.
CCTV cameras don't apprehend people when they're indebted to the casino, neither does it influence them to pay off their debts .... If they're left with nothing to service up their leftovers, there's absolutely nothing you can do....  
Initially, we had a rule of confiscating their bodily properties if they have any, but after some time, we had to adjust - since we realized we couldn't use stricter measures to solve the problem of wagering even without having initial deposits.

In this case, it was terrible as the cashier is answerable for whatever loss it caused the company in question.. "In our casino, no explanations were needed in a case like this... All you gotta do is fill up the gap and BALANCE your account.
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it's a long story but I'll try to make it short as I can for a comprehensively.

Yesterday while I was putting together some predictions for a parley bet as the EPL and other leagues  has just kicked off. In the process I started experiencing network hitches problem which I wasn't getting comfortable with. Suddenly another idea erupted in my head, why not just go straight to any of the sports betting shops closer and book these games at once. So I zoomed off.

On getting there with ease I was able to book my games using their computer and taking my ticket. In the brief time I was in the shop I noticed how one of the cashier was addressing another of the cashier angrily (it was later I learned that he is the head cashier). So out of curiosity I couldn't mind my business, I inquired as to what could be the problem why he was talking with such an angry tune on his coworker.

He then told me how a gambler had walked into the shop and played sessions of virtual games worth #32k (in our local currency) and disappeared without paying. I was confused, like how did that happened I asked. He had to go into details explaining that when the strange guy  played his first game he won #18k for which he didn't ask to be paid but continued gambling using the winning cash until he lost it all back to the shop. Out of confidence, the cashier didn't bother requesting for money for the next sessions thinking that after the guy might have been done gambling he will calculate the total loss for payment to be made or he perhaps might get another lucky win in the middle to cover for it in part or whole since he was able to get a win in the first game played. But unfortunately for him, the strange guy had another intention in mind, disappearing at the slightest minute the cashier's attention was diverted from his sight.

I felt dumbfounded by the stupidity of the cashier as I was speechless to say the least, I just had to tell him that the manager of the shop should install a CCTV camera in the shop to prevent future roguery of this nature.

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

I think the employee is quite incompetent to allow such to happen, it's a business funded with money and allowing someone to walk away  after placing those bets without paying is absolutely careless..To answer the first question, an addictive gambler doesn't really care about getting embarrassed at that moment when he's gambling, all he cares about is chasing his losses and he doesn't mind borrowing money from other people to do that..if there were no cameras then only the cashier would be able to identify him if they cross paths again
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Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

Addiction is the main cause when you have scenarios like these. This is because people addicted to gambling, when they start playing, they can't stop playing, they have no control over themselves and if they have money in their pocket, even if it is an amount intended to pay the owner of gambling shop, the addicted person will use that money to continue playing and will not pay the owner of the gambling shop, then they will disappear. This is why it is recommended that gambling shop operators have security in their gambling shop

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

I will not yell at him, people make mistakes and we have to stay calm and ask them to be more careful next time, having an employee with many years is much better than constantly firing employees. We have to create a good work environment so that employees when they make a mistake do not despair and hide the mistake they made, when you have a good work environment, employees feel safe to report all problems.

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

If they report it to the police, then the police can ask for access to all cameras near the gambling shop and they can easily identify the player who did not pay
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I see this as a case of negligence on the side of the cashier because in casinos you should know as a staff that various personalities visit the casino and at such a strict pay before service policy should be implemented so as to make sure the casino never gets to suffer such loss, in situations as this there should be consequences attached so the cashier in subsequent situations will not be this negligent .

Probably for his or her carelessness half of the lost fund be deducted from the cashier's salary and for security measures, cameras should be installed so in case of next time they can track such person and let him face the wrath of the law.
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The cashier should be fired and the gambler should be caught, we shouldn't let away stupid and irresponsible people because they can harm someone else business and they can harm the country too.

The big question is whether the gambler have paid what he owed to the casino or not, he should get charged, not only end up being in jail.

Anyway it's very surprising to see business that has a high chance of violence doesn't have CCTV.
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I believe that it seems that the gambler is trapped in despair, does not have the ability to accept the risk of losing, or cannot accept that all his winnings are lost again in the next game and at that time emotions peak until finally he makes various decisions without thinking long like continuing the game even though he does not have the money to pay for everything when the game session is over.

This is also the reason that when a gambler is controlled by his emotions then anything is very possible to do without considering the risks. And about the cashier, maybe I will also blame him for being too careless in putting trust, because if from the start he had first asked for money (at least the amount for collateral) from the gambler then maybe the casino's losses would not be too big, but on the other hand of course I will also blame the casino itself, because if only the casino had a standard level of security then the incident should never have happened.
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Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

The cashier is totally at fault for not requesting that the gambler pay him or her first before allowing him to stake on the selected games. If I were the manager, I would have to gradually deduct the loss from the cashier's salary every month until the loss is fully settled. The idea of installing CCTV in the shop is good, and if he can employ your idea, it will be a great advantage. 

I have seen a few addiction gamblers who get embarrassed publicly because of their debt in some land-based casino. This kind of cases is not new to me.
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Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?
When a gambler no longer has common sense, then anything risky can be done, even if it is the first time that bad thing has been done, so there is no need to be surprised by it and of course bad things, even though they are not the same, have happened before but you do not know about them.

Punishment for carelessness that harms the casino must be taken otherwise he can repeat the carelessness at a different time even if necessary his salary is cut even though not completely to replace the loss so that he can be more careful because he understands that mistakes will also harm him.

I'm not so sure about this, but casinos should have a way to prevent this from happening, besides CCTV security guards should also be more careful to watch for suspicious behavior from casino visitors.
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I don't think there's a need to question why people would want to avoid paying? Yes, it's wrong, but no one would deny wanting not to pay anything if possible lol. As for the employee, definitely would be angry. It's never right to assume anything, like absolutely anything when it comes to customers lol. That's just an accident waiting to happen. Honestly confused why the assumption even happened in the first place lol.

As for measures, yeah CCTV. Or just in general a way for the cashier to hear when someone leaves/enters. As for a possible way to find the man, if they don't store the identities of their players then it's not gonna happen lol. If some verification was needed then it might be possible still but I highly doubt they do that.
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If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?
however, the cashier has to cover the loss. and pressure them to make the incident an experience and learning. being angry will be done, but we have to show more on how to be responsible for a case.
no one wants that to happen, but it could be that the gambler is a customer there and is used to interacting with the cashier. it will not be easy for a gambler in a new place to gain such trust, there must be some interactions with the cashier until he neglects the duties he should be doing.
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Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.
Such exhibitions are exercises of addicted and irresponsible gamblers who does not even care about their reputations.
You may not be far from the truth because I see no responsible gambler having the guts to harbor such a degrading  act how much more of expediting it. Chronic gamblers can go at any length taking their chances just to satisfy their gambling urge, and this strange guy is no different.

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?
The sanctions should be on the cashier for the mistake been done.
Even when you catch up with this guy, be aware that you do not have an evidence to proof him so, he may have all right to deny it because it was expected that payment before bet is placed should be made.
You have made an salient point concerning evidence to use as ahold on the said strange guy, because assuming later on he got identified and he denied not been the person or even taking up such act, the gambling shop cashier has no evidence to pin him down except if he can provide witnesses to collaborate with the identification.
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The fact is that the gambler is criminal minded, if not he would have paid before leaving. Also not paying doesn't mean that he doesn't have the money to pay, he probably felt that there was no need to pay since he didn't win so he sneaked out at the slightest opportunity. I doubt that criminals worry much whether they're caught, they'll probably believe that it's unsmart thieves that gets caught. If I were the manager I'll naturally be angry at the cashier who was negligent while the criminal gambler escaped without paying.

Bet shops and any other businesses that serves the public should have CCTV cameras to monitor their business areas. The CCTV cameras should be visible so that their customers and visitors will know that they're being watched.

Now, they understood the importance of having CCTV in their premises. It will be a lesson not only for the cashier, but the owner himself. Gamblers will always find a way not to pay or sneak, if he has the chance to, especially those who don't have the money for it. Maybe he already got the notion that sneaking out while the cashier is not looking is very possible in the scenario. And so he did! I don't think he will get back in the shop for the next coming days. If he will hear that the cashier didn't identify the culprit, he will surely go back. So the owner should install CCTV for their own benefit.
Aside from that, the cashier should not be too lenient to its customers. Collect the cash if needed, then, just disburse if the gambler asks for his winnings but don't let yourself get duped by these gamblers.
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Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

Cashier allow the player to play without money. They literally gave him credits to play and pay later that resulted to the issue. Gambler is always thinking about screwing the casino once they lose. Also this bet shop doesn’t have CCTV so there’s no downside for the gambler here.

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If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Immediate termination I guess since this kind of mistake shouldn’t be tolerated on gambling business.

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Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

I think so if the cashier remember the name. Police can sketch the face of the guy.
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Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

It is likely that he has done this kind of thing often, from the beginning there was indeed an intention to do it, especially if there is a gap that can be used to escape and not pay the bill, the characteristics of a gambler who is addicted like that, he will not be ashamed of what he does, justifying any means to satisfy his lust in gambling activities.


If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

clearly as an employee who has great responsibility, anger will definitely come out of his mouth, but on the one hand we cannot completely scold employees, business owners also play a role because they do not install CCTV in their place of business, this kind of thing needs to be fixed for the future


Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

it is likely that the fraudster will disappear first if in fact the person lives in the same area, another option is that the fraudster will look for another place to carry out his actions.
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