Topic: A dangerous gambling behavior of a gambler - page 3. (Read 1509 times)

Sincerely speaking the whole schenerio would have been avoided without CCTV camera, if the gambling staff in that shop took money before allowing the bettor to continue betting. I blame the guy who allow someone to keep gambling till his out of fund and he still allows him to play, that is stupidly. As far as I know betting shop doesn't allow customers to play above their budget because they know gambling comes with addiction and if they don't control the Gamblers the Gamblers will be forced to play above their discretion. Story cut short, all this would have been avoided when the staff of the gambling shop saw that the Gambler bankroll which he has won on their system has finished, he should have just stop to book tickets for him.

Although the betting shop has a poor level of security, such as one of them does not have CCTV at all to at least be used as something to find out about the appearance or characteristics of the person, but in my opinion the incident could have been thwarted or less likely to happen if the cashier really put high alertness and caution by asking the gambler for money every time he wanted to start the game.

So I think the core of the problem is because the cashier is too careless in terms of trusting others, that is a big mistake because we never know whether other people have bad intentions or not, remember that crime does not always happen because of intent but because of opportunity, and yes in the end maybe as you said that most likely the cashier will be fired from his job.

Cashier is lacking wiseness because I can't see a place where someone would come to gamble and not paying the cashier instead she regularly keep betting on debt while the gambler believe luck would shine and when he noticed that his luck doesn't come as expected he ran away without even paying any to the cashier leaving her devastated. Usually this offense could lead to her being sacked from that local gambling shop.

And this is a good plus from the casino as an intermediary. Yes, we pay the casino commissions - direct or indirect, like 0 on roulette. But the casino ensures the honesty of the results and the provision of winnings to players, and this is correct.
This is comparable to cryptocurrency exchanges that honestly conduct P2P, and thanks to this we know that we will not be deceived. Nevertheless, there are always those who want to cheat, but the control of the intermediary works well here too, establishing order in the relations between gamblers/traders.

it's a long story but I'll try to make it short as I can for a comprehensively.

Yesterday while I was putting together some predictions for a parley bet as the EPL and other leagues  has just kicked off. In the process I started experiencing network hitches problem which I wasn't getting comfortable with. Suddenly another idea erupted in my head, why not just go straight to any of the sports betting shops closer and book these games at once. So I zoomed off.

On getting there with ease I was able to book my games using their computer and taking my ticket. In the brief time I was in the shop I noticed how one of the cashier was addressing another of the cashier angrily (it was later I learned that he is the head cashier). So out of curiosity I couldn't mind my business, I inquired as to what could be the problem why he was talking with such an angry tune on his coworker.

He then told me how a gambler had walked into the shop and played sessions of virtual games worth #32k (in our local currency) and disappeared without paying. I was confused, like how did that happened I asked. He had to go into details explaining that when the strange guy  played his first game he won #18k for which he didn't ask to be paid but continued gambling using the winning cash until he lost it all back to the shop. Out of confidence, the cashier didn't bother requesting for money for the next sessions thinking that after the guy might have been done gambling he will calculate the total loss for payment to be made or he perhaps might get another lucky win in the middle to cover for it in part or whole since he was able to get a win in the first game played. But unfortunately for him, the strange guy had another intention in mind, disappearing at the slightest minute the cashier's attention was diverted from his sight.

I felt dumbfounded by the stupidity of the cashier as I was speechless to say the least, I just had to tell him that the manager of the shop should install a CCTV camera in the shop to prevent future roguery of this nature.

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

Yes, it is a small chance. And on the other hand, there is a big chance of defeat waiting too. Gambling is gambling, luck will always accompany. And there is another factor, when the odds have the ability to do many things, including setting the winner, then manipulation will occur a lot. especially in slot machines. It is a game to enrich the owner of the slot or casino.

Like I once told a story about someone whose life and family were completely destroyed (until now it has not been resolved) due to the dangers of gambling addiction. This was purely because of greed, addiction, and his inability to control himself when gambling. So, he was very easily tempted to bet and bet again without thinking long.

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

I also think that the lack of CCTV cameras encourages such players to be impudent and avoid punishment. What can be presented to this player, whom you might meet on the street? There are no witnesses, and no evidence, which means he understands that he is invulnerable. In addition, people addicted to gambling often do not think about the consequences; they are driven by excitement and the desire to play. What would I do with that cashier? I would certainly fire him, but first, so that all other cashiers could know the consequences of such "kindness,"  I would deduct from their salaries the amount that the player owes. And yes, cameras must certainly exist in all establishments related to finance.

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

A little opportunity can make us to make huge money in gambling that is while we keep seeing gamblers that don't even have funds to gamble looking for where to borrow loan to try their luck because they believe anything can happen at anytime. Gambling is for the strong ones and if we don't belief in what we do, then how for we expect to make money from gambling.  There are so many gamblers that like taking dangerous moves when they want to bet especially using huge amounts of funds to get in games that ha s small probability of one winning or with small odds.

Those gamblers that portrays such a behavior are already aware that if it's on an online casino, they can not have such opportunity to gamble with zero balance and because of such, they will go to a land base casino to express their bad behavior without minding the implications it's going to have on the staffs. The case and explained by OP is going to have a bad effect on the staff because it's her fault to even allow the culprit wager without paying.

We should allow people for whom they were because we can't change them, except they make the decision on their own on what to do, it may also occur to them in some cases especially when we think we are helping them out in a situation but to them is like as if we are making things get more complicated for them, everyone should be able to face the reality of the consequences in their gambling decision, we can't force people against their own wish.

Yes, but unfortunately the person did not have the understanding that you mean, so instead of cashing out and enjoying it, what happened was that he continued and eventually lost all the total amount that he had previously won. And this is someone who is included in the people who are too greedy and do not realize the risks that lurk.

On the other hand, I am also quite curious about whether it was a new person who came to the store or a gambler who had subscribed or had often bet there, but at first glance I think he might be a new person who came there, because if he was a regular customer then he should not have run away, at least he said something to the cashier like he owed money and came back again someday to pay it because most likely the cashier must have recognized him. Regardless of whatever it is, I think in the end this is a valuable lesson for the cashier to be more vigilant and careful, and of course this is also a lesson for the store itself to improve security.

It's actually unbearable to see that someone would go into gambling shop to gamble and played continuously without even paying was thinking he would win to cover up his lost. But truth be told the cashier didn't even play wise in her role because it's assume there is no law rules and regulations governing them there because I assumed if there were any then she could had demand for the pay before even placing another bet for him.

I want to be soft in my approach towards this incident because I know how easy it is for people to get comfortable with one another in places like gambling shops. Most people come to place their bets and have fun, making it easy for people to feel at home with themselves. But my believe is, that should be commonly practiced amongst gamblers and not between gamblers and staff especially cashiers.

You ought to be as professional as possible not to be too comfortable with clients who come to gamble. Taking gamblers as paddies should be ordinarily against one's work ethics as a cashier and if I was the manager I would retaliate to that mistake, not to take away the job from him but to caution him against next time since we ain't running a charity organization.

I want to be soft in my approach towards this incident because I know how easy it is for people to get comfortable with one another in places like gambling shops. Most people come to place their bets and have fun, making it easy for people to feel at home with themselves. But my believe is, that should be commonly practiced amongst gamblers and not between gamblers and staff especially cashiers.

You ought to be as professional as possible not to be too comfortable with clients who come to gamble. Taking gamblers as paddies should be ordinarily against one's work ethics as a cashier and if I was the manager I would retaliate to that mistake, not to take away the job from him but to caution him against next time since we ain't running a charity organization.

I believe that paying before gambling is common sense and they don't need to write such rules on the wall but will be told to the cashier. She was the one that took her responsibility for granted by allowing a stranger to continue gambling without giving her a dime. The one I have seen was a known gambler that gambles in a particular bet shop, he gambled to pay his bills later amd the owner of the bet shop got him arrested when he refused paying his debt.

No money, no bet. You have to always get paid before accepting a bet. That stops the problem before it happens.

Would much rather piss someone off for asking to be paid vs being pissed off they skipped out on me. I guess it's different here is the USA as they 100% of the time want the money or they will not take your bet period.

For all these problems, many gamblers now use online casinos to gamble because there is no possibility of conflict between the two parties and if they win, the gambler will automatically get his money and if he loses, his money will automatically go out of the account.