Topic: A dangerous gambling behavior of a gambler - page 8. (Read 1509 times)

The fact is that the gambler is criminal minded, if not he would have paid before leaving. Also not paying doesn't mean that he doesn't have the money to pay, he probably felt that there was no need to pay since he didn't win so he sneaked out at the slightest opportunity. I doubt that criminals worry much whether they're caught, they'll probably believe that it's unsmart thieves that gets caught. If I were the manager I'll naturally be angry at the cashier who was negligent while the criminal gambler escaped without paying.

Bet shops and any other businesses that serves the public should have CCTV cameras to monitor their business areas. The CCTV cameras should be visible so that their customers and visitors will know that they're being watched.

Some people are just criminal-minded. They usually want to maximize any slight chance to cheat or steal from people. Others might engage in such an act due to gambling addiction. They chase losses and end up gambling more than they can afford.

I guess your local currency is the naira, thus #32k is less than $22. I might cover the loss if it was her first blunder. Deducting the amount gradually from her earnings will be another option if she has been careless.  

The only person that can identify this criminal is the cashier or any other witness. If nobody present can, there is no way to identify him. However, such criminals usually target other gambling shops rather than returning to their previous victims.

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The owner of the betting shop should consider training his staff and also installing CCTV cameras.

If I were in the manager’s shoes, I’d definitely be upset with the employee, but beyond just anger, this would be a wake-up call for some serious changes. First off, proper training should be in place to ensure that all bets are paid upfront, no exceptions. The cashier’s trust in the gambler’s eventual payment was a costly mistake, but it’s the manager’s responsibility to set clear guidelines that prevent these kinds of errors.

It's tough to Identify the gambler without CCTV. The shop could try to gather information from nearby businesses or regular customers who might have seen the guy. But installing security cameras is a must to avoid this kind of situation, it’s about creating an environment where both the employees and customers know that there are systems in place to keep everyone accountable.

That's right , no Matter whom the individual claims to be he or she should make payment first before being allowed to gamble in a particular shop, because I believe has this first mission of that individual was successful he , will definitely try such act again may be this time he will try it at a different betting shop . This is the reason why one shouldn't go beyond budgets, as a gambler you know you don't have much money and the little you have left is to sustain you till another , the right thing to do is to not bet or gamble at all that going at there putting yah self at risk due to being addicted to it , for instance that nigga git caught the chances of him getting to jail is pretty high because that's a serious case .

He might be having the money to pay but seeing he has a route for an escape he definitely pick that but I see all this as a cause of mispractice in gambling and possibly addiction winning 18k at first try and continuous playing till he lost everything shows how desperate he was hoping to catch a jackpot which turns against him but since he noticed a big lost coming his way, I guessed he opt for the running option even if he did have the money or not.

It depends how well the employee as been having faults and how business is going because I might just only be angry or ask him to pay a part or all of the money since I won't to tolerate any slackness or see my business crumble.

Maybe if the cashier or any other person there at that time might be able to recognised his face then he possibly might be able to run for ever

I have actually experienced such cases before where bettors places bets in the physical gambling shops while payments have not been made but this usually done when the shop attendant is familiar with the gambler probably the familiar gambler is a regular gambler to that particular gambling shop.

Such exhibitions are exercises of addicted and irresponsible gamblers who does not even care about their reputations.

The sanctions should be on the cashier for the mistake been done.
Even when you catch up with this guy, be aware that you do not have an evidence to proof him so, he may have all right to deny it because it was expected that payment before bet is placed should be made.

these approaches are risky and moreover are illegal and must be avoided in all possible cases.
maybe "desperate" gambler will try such activity but it's a real stupid idea that deserve no follow up.

workers that doens't act according company policy should just be fired. if they are unable to follow easy instruction by the company they just need to leave their job (there is also the risk they are "part of the scam"...)

in this case police are an option that can be used to identify guy without CCTV (maybe it can works...)

I've not heard of a situation where one can gamble without paying first or depositing something. It's strange to me. In my country you have to pay for what ever local bet you want to place be it virtual or sport bet. Though as regards your country I think such things should be improved. I still don't get the relationship with the attendance why he allowed someone to play that way without asking for money. I really don't think it's his first time. There might be other reasons but it was really a careless move by him. There's no manger that would be so calm not to get angry in such case senerio.

I also think that the lack of CCTV cameras encourages such players to be impudent and avoid punishment. What can be presented to this player, whom you might meet on the street? There are no witnesses, and no evidence, which means he understands that he is invulnerable. In addition, people addicted to gambling often do not think about the consequences; they are driven by excitement and the desire to play. What would I do with that cashier? I would certainly fire him, but first, so that all other cashiers could know the consequences of such "kindness,"  I would deduct from their salaries the amount that the player owes. And yes, cameras must certainly exist in all establishments related to finance.

Why do people steal, lie, cheat... Many get caught and many learn not to do it anymore, but there are also those who simply use every opportunity to deceive someone or steal something. Even though they were caught many times, beaten, and imprisoned, they still do it... I guess it's in their blood.


When I was young (20 or more years ago) I worked at a gas station, a man cheated me for about 30 euros. I filled him with fuel and plus I gave him back the change, and he didn't even pay. He convinced me that he had given me money... it was only after 5 minutes of thinking that I checked the cash register and realized that he had cheated me. My mistake, I should have told him to wait and check the register, but I was young and naive. Of course, I had to pay from my own pocket for that mistake. That's how experience is gained...


CCTV will stop some people, but not all. Even if you find them what can you actually do? I guess that depends a lot on the country and its laws, here in my country there are many of them. Small or almost no punishments with jail time do not stop them from repeating these acts, even if they get caught for the hundredth time and they go to jail for a while it is nothing. People accustomed to such a life return to the same acts as soon as they are released.

I encountered a lot of this kind characters on the gambling shop I'm betting there are many kind of gamblers and the management should be aware of the different modus these gamblers are employing, in the shop I'm betting they always have a weekly meeting to address this because it is rampant on the locality where I'm playing
Based on the story the staff is not aware of the bad tactics of the gambler so I prefer to just forgive him and have a meeting with all the staff and discuss the many tactics these gamblers are employing to cheat the cashiers
I'm sure the gambler have acquittances in the area that the management can ask to identify the culprit, installing a CCTV is mandatory for shops that many customers or clients that's going around, we have a law on this and we have penalties for non compliance.

Many reason why a gambler takes that risks even if he know what is the risks for him. We never know what is his real reason until that man  caught. Maybe that man is greedy and addicted to gambling and still placing his bet even if he do that many times.

I will not yelling or angry to my employee if I see them make a mistake. I will talk with him privately without anyone knows so I can know his explanation. It is not good if we angry to our employee in front of other people.

Installing a CCTV camera in the shop is a good idea because that can record or watch all things happen in that shop. Having a CCTV camera helps the owner to know everything around his store. He can do something if he found something that is an usual in his store and solve the problem.

First of all, they have to face such a situation because of the carelessness of the cashier who was there. I have never experienced anything like this before. Security is must for every gambling company. Especially in that company it is a responsibility to have CCTV cameras and observe every gambler. Although different manpower should be kept for this duty but no action has been taken there. If the management of an organization is accepted with emotion, then there will be loss. The manager or cashier needed to be more careful. Gambler won 18000 no problem. But it has been proved that the company has not especial care on him. Casinos in the developed world are almost everywhere staffed with CCTV cameras to monitor gamblers. Every move of the gambler is watched by the officials of that company.

I agree with what you said: why would I pay for something I didn't do? This is right in my opinion as well. The only thing that is wrong is that there is no CCTV, so it can be abused again and again. There is always no concrete evidence to show.

In this day and age, CCTV is such a trend that no matter where you go, there is one for sure. With the technology we have today, it seems like nothing is impossible; that's all I've seen.

Firstly, the strange guy is addicted and has being gambling for profit, this is why you see that he win his first bet and lost it back to the casino. It didn't stop there, he continued gambling knowing that he cannot afford to pay which was why he ran away because he was believing he will win back his losses.

The cashier should be the one that is to be punished for such foolish act of not collecting payment for those bets until it accumulated to #36k. It is the cashier that is calling the gambler a stranger but he can identify him.

If I was the manager, I will not fire him but will be deducting the money from his salary till I get all of it back, because if you fire him you have lost it all. Lastly, I will mount a CCTV camera. I will never try such thing because I am a responsible gambler.

Of course, the stranger will be identified by the cashier who was in the shop. Players who visit gambling shops stay in the same neighborhood where the shop is located. And don't be surprised to see that same player on your next visit to the shop. The minute he left the shop he was in his right mind. On another occasion, he wouldn't know how gravity would take him to the shop to play again. It's just the power of addiction.

No CCTV? that could be worse thing that a "gambling" platform will not get. We have seen in casinos around the world with high security and CCTV is all over the place. Even a ordinary house now has a lot of CCTV, why not this betting shop? They have a lot of profits for sure as they are into the gambling industry so it doesn't make sense. So the first one to put blame is the owner of the betting shop itself and no one else.

The cashier, it's a failure on his end, it seems that he didn't follow the process of the betting shop. And we all know that if someone in all other business missed  important details, or forgetting key steps, sooner or later it will result in a loss of money and that's why happen here.

This did not happen to the owner of the betting shop but it happened to his employee. What if the employee is lying and just want to get away with the money. But even if the employee is telling the truth, he is the one that should be blamed. Not the betting shop management. I know this type of betting shop, it may not have more than 1 or 2 workers there. When the owner of the shop will employ, he will tell them everything they need to do and also let the workers see how it is done by attending to customer.

The sports betting shops in your country has a bad management, the customer need to give the money before able to play, not the other way around. I think this case happened in everywhere, it's risky to let the customer to do whatever they likes but they don't have enough money to pay the bills. The business owner can't do much, it's wasting time to handle this problem, but at the same time they should prevent this case to occur in the future, if not they will ends bankrupt.

The workers should be blamed but those betting shops are not big enough in a way someone supposed to leave and not got noticed. CCTV camera may not work if the bad person prefer to leave. I have been to betting shops very well, it is about pay the money you want to use for the virtual matches or games and then the agent worker will place the bet for you. Amount won would be given immediately. That is how it is done. Doing it appropriately will be better than CCTV camera.

I am only staying prevention is better than cure. Because with CCTV camera, the person can be known or seen and later be arrested because they saw him on camera, then he has nowhere to run away from the police.

I will be very angry with the person. I may not even believe him. He he did not obey my instructions which is let them pay before you place bet for them. I may deducted the money gradually from his salary based on our agreement.