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Quote from: michellee on February 26, 2024, 02:14:34 AM

He couldn't bear to see his suffering anymore so he chose to commit suicide to solve the problem. But he didn't realize how much his family missed him because they never thought he would make that decision. Suicide does not solve problems but will add to other problems.

I can imagine what he was going through but taking such horrible decision is very foolish of him. People commit suicide with the thought of ending the problem but unknowingly to them, they are just indirectly running away from their responsibilities for their relatives and loved ones to solve. There's a popular saying that if there's life, there's hope. Of course, life will definitely hit you hard sometimes but there is always opportunity to bounce back if you don't give up. It's very possible that very guy would have make more than that amount that he lost if he's still alive but unfortunately he seized all the opportunities by ending his life leaving gross pain behind for the family.

Majority misunderstood gambling as a place to double their money and thereby going extra hard with the amount they stake on the game without realizing that there is no guarantee of return of investment in gambling. The outcome of gambling is either you lose it all or you make some cent. However, the chances of losing is always higher and that's why you are advised to risk affordable amount. If every gamblers can be aware of this, cases like that of story in the Op would be very much rare.

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Quote from: OceanBit on February 26, 2024, 02:04:19 AM

What happened to the gambler is very sad to hear. For me, no amount of money lost should ever be a reason to take one's own life. Suicide should never be a solution. It's important to practice responsible gambling habits and seek help if needed, especially if you or someone you know is experiencing problematic behavior.

He couldn't bear to see his suffering anymore so he chose to commit suicide to solve the problem. But he didn't realize how much his family missed him because they never thought he would make that decision. Suicide does not solve problems but will add to other problems.

That's why we shouldn't use too much money to gamble. Especially if we are unable to see the many losses, we should use the money we can afford and be able to accept loss. After all, gambling is not a place to make money and is just for fun.

That is a lesson for all of us that we must really be able to control ourselves when playing gambling. No amount of money can replace a life. Our lives are very precious so we must take good care of them.

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What happened to the gambler is very sad to hear. For me, no amount of money lost should ever be a reason to take one's own life. Suicide should never be a solution. It's important to practice responsible gambling habits and seek help if needed, especially if you or someone you know is experiencing problematic behavior.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on February 26, 2024, 12:56:26 AM

Quote from: Ever-young on February 25, 2024, 11:56:32 PM

I was really heartbroken when I saw the story. I believe this story highlights the dangers of gambling addiction.

Well, let's put things in context. How many of the people who gamble end up committing suicide because of gambling? I don't have data but it has to be a tiny percentage. Like 0,...% with quite a few zeros. This story is tragic but it is far from the norm. And I bet there were other things behind it that we don't know about, because it's very rare to commit suicide because you lost $3.000 even if in your country the purchasing power of that money is higher than in others.

As Don Pedro Dinero said, I also think that there may be other reasons behind the reasons for committing suicide: did he take a loan from dangerous people? was this money needed to pay the rent and feed his family, in a country with no social security at all?

Chances are, on the other hand, that he got so obsessed about the loss that he took such a bad decision, or maybe because of some previous mental illness.

Fortunately, this case is rare, as DPD also said, but so impressive that we keep talking about it, so it seems more common that it is in reality.

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Quote from: Ever-young on February 25, 2024, 11:56:32 PM

I was really heartbroken when I saw the story. I believe this story highlights the dangers of gambling addiction.

Well, let's put things in context. How many of the people who gamble end up committing suicide because of gambling? I don't have data but it has to be a tiny percentage. Like 0,...% with quite a few zeros. This story is tragic but it is far from the norm. And I bet there were other things behind it that we don't know about, because it's very rare to commit suicide because you lost $3.000 even if in your country the purchasing power of that money is higher than in others.

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Quote from: Strongkored on February 25, 2024, 11:30:57 PM

This also happened in my country some time ago, where a man who was known to be a businessman was found to have committed suicide and was suspected of being in debt after being addicted to slot gambling, I didn't really follow the news further but it was quite unfortunate, and in my opinion the person who committed this act was more to the shame of having ruined his life and not being prepared for the reactions of those closest to him if they found out that he had become an addicted gambler who was ruining his finances.

I was really heartbroken when I saw the story. I believe this story highlights the dangers of gambling addiction. Most times it's really not just about the financial consequences but also the emotional and mental harm it can inflict on its victims. Not only can gambling addiction lead to financial ruin, but also, it can destroy relationships and also lead to feelings of shame and hopelessness. That's why it's very important and crucial for every gambler to be fully aware of the dangers of gambling addiction, perhaps this will aid them to seek for help early whenever they feel they're getting in over their head and look for an early solution before it escalates to a point they can no more control themselves.

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This also happened in my country some time ago, where a man who was known to be a businessman was found to have committed suicide and was suspected of being in debt after being addicted to slot gambling, I didn't really follow the news further but it was quite unfortunate, and in my opinion the person who committed this act was more to the shame of having ruined his life and not being prepared for the reactions of those closest to him if they found out that he had become an addicted gambler who was ruining his finances.

Quote from: letteredhub on December 12, 2023, 06:29:30 PM

This is just another reminder to we all gamblers that no bet is sure and guaranteed, don't ever use an amount of money you are not comfortable to lose just because you feel convicted in your mind that the game will play as predicted. There's no such thing as sure bet in gambling.

Gamblers know this for sure but often ignore this fact because they cannot control themselves, especially when they are too controlled by emotions to think clearly.

Quote from: letteredhub on December 12, 2023, 06:29:30 PM

Question: Is there any amount lost that can make you commit suicide?
If yes, then don't ever use such amount to gamble.

Suicide has never crossed my mind and in fact people who commit suicide certainly have mental health issues but are not aware of it and people who experience mental health issues will carry out these actions even though the amount of money lost is relatively small, meaning by working hard he will be able to get money with the lost amount, and the sentence to gamble only with money we can afford to lose is true

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Quote from: odunybiz on February 25, 2024, 06:08:38 PM

Quote from: kojektea on February 24, 2024, 02:08:10 PM

maybe in some developed countries $3K is not that much and is very easy to get, but if you are in a developing country $3k worth of money is very valuable and it is even very difficult to get it even if you have worked for years, but that guy seemed to have lost his mind so he took his life

I really blame him not for using that huge amount of money but for using a money he can't avoid to lose. Some people bet with money more than that and they move on with life if the game loses. Such people bet with such money because they can avoid it. Imitating people in gambling is wrong because you never know the actual income of the person you are imitating. He's may gamble with $3 but make that $3k just be 5% of his month earnings. While you with the same $3k as your monthly earnings they imitate such person in gambling. You will end up regretting. I just observed recently that it isn't only greediness that make people bet beyond their earnings but also imitation of friends or neighbor as well.

Yes, but it was basically the amount of money that made him end up making the stupid decision of ending his life just because he lost on his own decision. And yes, the main point is that gambling with an amount that you cannot afford to lose is a reckless decision, this can make you end up becoming an impulsive gambler in the sense of doing things out of control because you are unable to hold back your emotions due to the defeat experienced.

Everyone has their own capacity or ability in terms of financial strength, simply put the amount of $1000 is a very large amount for someone who has medium or even poor finances but that amount is an amount that does not really matter to lose if they are basically a rich person or who has good finances in their life, and as you said that it is a wrong decision if you imitate the amount of budget allocated by the rich just because you want to get a large number of wins like the rich get. On the other hand, you have mentioned some scenarios that can make a person go above and beyond their means such as greed and copying the big bets made by others who basically have no idea about the income of the person they are copying and I agree with that.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 25, 2024, 05:57:59 PM

Quote from: livingfree on February 25, 2024, 04:53:06 PM

No amount that will make me think about that. If I want to be dead, I want it to be the natural way and not because of gambling or some sort of debt that I can't pay.

There are people that can't move on with any amount of debt that they have and it's not just all about the debt but the shame that they've brought to themselves.

And just want to disappear after being known in their hood that he/she has got that much debt and known to be a gambling addict.

Its not on the amount of bet that the gambler will chose to suicide, but surely it’s on the amount of losses that ends up with a big debt which made the gambler very desperate and decide to take his own life. People like this should not gamble in the first place because once they cannot managed their frustrations and have no one to share their financial problems, they will end up with a decision that they will regret for the rest of their lives.

Yeah, it's on the amount that you've loss. Any amount that we bet is fine because it's still on the process but once the result is out and it's a loss, that's the frustrating part.

And what's much worse is on how did you take that money and able to bet such amount that resulted into a loss. That's where emotions come in from every bettor that's hard to accept and deal with.

Quote from: mirakal on February 25, 2024, 05:57:59 PM

Gambling can be beneficial on our part if we see it as a source of fun, and money making is just a bonus. But if you are seeing it on the contrary, that you’ll only get fun if you are on the winning side, which I think majority are doing, is obviously a wrong act when gambling.

It's fun, enjoyable and there's some reward when we're lucky on that day. But it's not always lucky day and those gamblers that don't gamble with their own money should be aware of it.

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Quote from: kojektea on February 24, 2024, 02:08:10 PM

maybe in some developed countries $3K is not that much and is very easy to get, but if you are in a developing country $3k worth of money is very valuable and it is even very difficult to get it even if you have worked for years, but that guy seemed to have lost his mind so he took his life

I really blame him not for using that huge amount of money but for using a money he can't avoid to lose. Some people bet with money more than that and they move on with life if the game loses. Such people bet with such money because they can avoid it. Imitating people in gambling is wrong because you never know the actual income of the person you are imitating. He's may gamble with $3 but make that $3k just be 5% of his month earnings. While you with the same $3k as your monthly earnings they imitate such person in gambling. You will end up regretting. I just observed recently that it isn't only greediness that make people bet beyond their earnings but also imitation of friends or neighbor as well.

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Quote from: livingfree on February 25, 2024, 04:53:06 PM

No amount that will make me think about that. If I want to be dead, I want it to be the natural way and not because of gambling or some sort of debt that I can't pay.

There are people that can't move on with any amount of debt that they have and it's not just all about the debt but the shame that they've brought to themselves.

And just want to disappear after being known in their hood that he/she has got that much debt and known to be a gambling addict.

Its not on the amount of bet that the gambler will chose to suicide, but surely it’s on the amount of losses that ends up with a big debt which made the gambler very desperate and decide to take his own life. People like this should not gamble in the first place because once they cannot managed their frustrations and have no one to share their financial problems, they will end up with a decision that they will regret for the rest of their lives.

Gambling can be beneficial on our part if we see it as a source of fun, and money making is just a bonus. But if you are seeing it on the contrary, that you’ll only get fun if you are on the winning side, which I think majority are doing, is obviously a wrong act when gambling.

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Quote from: Quidat on February 25, 2024, 05:24:54 PM

Quote from: livingfree on February 25, 2024, 04:53:06 PM

No amount that will make me think about that. If I want to be dead, I want it to be the natural way and not because of gambling or some sort of debt that I can't pay.

There are people that can't move on with any amount of debt that they have and it's not just all about the debt but the shame that they've brought to themselves.

And just want to disappear after being known in their hood that he/she has got that much debt and known to be a gambling addict.

You cant really be able to say that but its true that no amount should really be something to be talk as your threshold which we know that someone could really be ended up on having that suicide
on the time that you are on such situation then you cant really be sure that you would really be having those kind of thoughts on having those kind of approach.
Just like on what others been saying above that emotion is really the hardest thing that you would really be needing to take control or get a hold with because if you dont
then for sure you would really be ending up on having this kind of thoughts on taking your own life just because you do seem that this problem doesnt have any solutions anymore.

I find that question offending but that's it, there's no amount of money whether in debt or trouble that I should be. Although that feeling of just wanting to disappear is a real thing.

When you think that when you're gone, problems have been solved already but that's not the case.

If you want no trouble and don't want into this situation, all you have to do is to gamble what you can afford to lose.

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Quote from: kojektea on February 24, 2024, 02:08:10 PM

maybe in some developed countries $3K is not that much and is very easy to get, but if you are in a developing country $3k worth of money is very valuable and it is even very difficult to get it even if you have worked for years, but that guy seemed to have lost his mind so he took his life

$3k is developed countries are not even nothing because for those that value money, it's also a lot for them. Those that are really wealthy won't be bothered with this amount.
And for someone who has been into this kind of debt and don't have a means to pay them, it's certainly a problem that he's not able to answer so that's the reaction he thought will solve his problem which just added more problem to his family.

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Quote from: kojektea on February 25, 2024, 05:24:36 PM

It is indeed difficult if we have never been in a situation experienced by a very frustrated gambler, but from incidents like what we see, we can conclude that the effects of gambling are very dangerous if you are addicted, we can apply this to ourselves so that we don't become dangerous gambling addicts. , stay safe and don't waste too much money in gambling

The serious impact of gambling addiction is very fatal resulting in frustration because they have lost everything and they have very high debts, their lives are very threatened due to many big threats to their lives if they do not pay off their debts immediately, the final decision is to end their lives because they have no safe place to hide from various serious threats. There was very heartbreaking news that a father had decided to hang himself up and leave a message for his wife and twin children still in the womb, he said goodbye because he was very frustrated at his mistake of being involved in gambling.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 25, 2024, 05:16:51 PM

Quote from: Raflesia on February 25, 2024, 04:52:37 PM

Quote from: kojektea on February 24, 2024, 02:08:10 PM

but that guy seemed to have lost his mind so he took his life

This is only a small part of the many incidents that occur and indeed even if we think that something like this is a ridiculous act but in fact there are not a few who do it.
Gambling if not accompanied by common sense and accompanied by a mature attitude then indeed this is one of the negative effects that occur.
Not a few we see a lot of criminal cases because of gambling such as murder human trafficking used as collateral or even other crimes are proof that in the end gambling can be a terrible thing .All can happen if we are already addicted to gambling and it is clearly not recommended because after all even if we gamble, it does not mean that we are a bad person who does not know anything and even does not know our identity just because of gambling .

Gambling addiction can be frustrating and very frustrating if the player isn't taking his problem seriously. Many cases as this which I've seen from Australian gamblers, resulted from debt. Don't know why the man would take his life for losing money. If he's debt free, it's not a big deal to lose money in gambling. Maybe he needed to multiply his money for business purpose which failed him. However, gamblers shouldn't go as far as spending so much time and money to a stage where they need to pay with their life. Gamblers rarely feel bad about themselves, but the society does because of news such as this, it's quite sad that gambling is always tagged at the end of the story. Making it look obviously bad in the eyes of the society.

Those things are exposed when a gambler performs the act of gambling. The person may have borrowed money from various people which he will fail to repay or he cannot bear the human pressure. If a gambler conducts gambling beyond his financial limit then it is natural that he will suffer. But the gambler must exercise caution before collecting money from any source as he may be socially disgraced if he gambles with borrowed or borrowed money which he cannot repay. The more addicted the gambler is, the more he needs to manage his gambling with these factors in mind. I will tell those desperate gamblers that there will be wins and losses in gambling. If you are alive, you can gamble or make money in any way, but if you die, there is no chance to recover. So the gambler must not do anything that has to be redeemed with life.

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It is quit unfortunate that he took his life due to lost of gambling, sometimes it's due to pressure or drug I've seen somany cases of such, but it's not the best way to solve such issues. Gambling should played with spear money and not a money ment for investment. Using investment money to play gamble is as a never good. Lets try our best to play safe no matter the conditions we find ourselves.

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Quote from: kojektea on February 24, 2024, 02:08:10 PM

maybe in some developed countries $3K is not that much and is very easy to get, but if you are in a developing country $3k worth of money is very valuable and it is even very difficult to get it even if you have worked for years, but that guy seemed to have lost his mind so he took his life

Yes, a country's economic conditions do affect the value of its currency. In contrast to certain developed nations where it is easy to make a lot of money, emerging countries are difficult to make a lot of money. For this reason, it is important that we assess the circumstances surrounding our current condition. When we are faced with financial hardships, such as having a large debt from gambling or other sources, we may feel hopeless and like there is no way out, to the point where we consider taking our own life under the weight of this burden. It is really unfortunate that people go through that kind of suffering, even if it is their own choice to find themselves in a situation like that.

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Quote from: livingfree on February 25, 2024, 04:53:06 PM

No amount that will make me think about that. If I want to be dead, I want it to be the natural way and not because of gambling or some sort of debt that I can't pay.

There are people that can't move on with any amount of debt that they have and it's not just all about the debt but the shame that they've brought to themselves.

And just want to disappear after being known in their hood that he/she has got that much debt and known to be a gambling addict.

You cant really be able to say that but its true that no amount should really be something to be talk as your threshold which we know that someone could really be ended up on having that suicide
on the time that you are on such situation then you cant really be sure that you would really be having those kind of thoughts on having those kind of approach.
Just like on what others been saying above that emotion is really the hardest thing that you would really be needing to take control or get a hold with because if you dont
then for sure you would really be ending up on having this kind of thoughts on taking your own life just because you do seem that this problem doesnt have any solutions anymore.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 25, 2024, 05:16:51 PM

Quote from: Raflesia on February 25, 2024, 04:52:37 PM

Quote from: kojektea on February 24, 2024, 02:08:10 PM

but that guy seemed to have lost his mind so he took his life

This is only a small part of the many incidents that occur and indeed even if we think that something like this is a ridiculous act but in fact there are not a few who do it.
Gambling if not accompanied by common sense and accompanied by a mature attitude then indeed this is one of the negative effects that occur.
Not a few we see a lot of criminal cases because of gambling such as murder human trafficking used as collateral or even other crimes are proof that in the end gambling can be a terrible thing .All can happen if we are already addicted to gambling and it is clearly not recommended because after all even if we gamble, it does not mean that we are a bad person who does not know anything and even does not know our identity just because of gambling .

Gambling addiction can be frustrating and very frustrating if the player isn't taking his problem seriously. Many cases as this which I've seen from Australian gamblers, resulted from debt. Don't know why the man would take his life for losing money. If he's debt free, it's not a big deal to lose money in gambling. Maybe he needed to multiply his money for business purpose which failed him. However, gamblers shouldn't go as far as spending so much time and money to a stage where they need to pay with their life. Gamblers rarely feel bad about themselves, but the society does because of news such as this, it's quite sad that gambling is always tagged at the end of the story. Making it look obviously bad in the eyes of the society.

It is indeed difficult if we have never been in a situation experienced by a very frustrated gambler, but from incidents like what we see, we can conclude that the effects of gambling are very dangerous if you are addicted, we can apply this to ourselves so that we don't become dangerous gambling addicts. , stay safe and don't waste too much money in gambling

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