Topic: A gambler takes his own life after a loss. - page 6. (Read 2973 times)

Okay now it is abundantly clear because I was wondering which country could have such health policy that is very detrimental to an emergency situations and from the looks, it seems you are an African because it is only here in Africa I know that the health system is far lacking behind of good health equipments and facilities.

When it comes to getting help or good counsel to stop addiction problems like gambling, the names you have mentioned are the last resorts because they are the only available help that one could get to assist them with words of encouragement and admonition to put them in check and to do away with the lapses they are currently facing.

Mental health is often disregarded by many people, as the pain the person is experimenting do not seem to have a logical explanation, like it is the case when someone has broken a bone and you can clearly see the reason for their suffering, so many of those that are experimenting that internal pain do not look for the help they need and they may begin to even disregard their own feelings.

But this is dangerous, since they are more likely to take an abrupt decision over an incident that we may consider to be minor, since even if losing 3k is a painful experience, the majority of the people here in the forum have lost more while gambling or investing, and no one took the decision to take their own life.

A gambler should inform close friend or acquaintance of his current gambling condition. Especially in choosing a person, the gambler should choose someone who does not share his personal information with others. A good side of this is that he can give him good suggestions when he is under a deadly threat. Every gambler should find one. I have also good friend with whom I share all my gambling wins and losses. Sometimes I get relatively good advice from him which takes me away from my depression.

Not everyone is a gambler about whom nothing can be assumed, not even the idea that they gamble or are addicted to gambling. In their case, some unfortunate events are seen. However, in solving this problem, a gambler should choose a trusted person with whom he can share all his personal matters. Following this steps it is possible to get rid of such situations.

So bad that is extremely madness of the highest order
But why are people so mean on taken their own life matter what happened it had happened before and you are not the first and can't even be the last, well I believe is going to be a lesson for others that have hears to listen don't gamble with what you can not afford to lose

I was just trying to make a reference on how the mental health care system in developed countries used to work and how they work nowadays, nothing else. Here in this country it is different, though. We do not have basic healthcare institutions,.and the few ones we have, they are pretty much lacking all necessary equipment for doctors to take care of us.
I am exclusively talking about mental healthcare, not other kinds of problems which could completely and suddenly cripple someone from trying to get the help they need.
Perhaps you misunderstood what I was trying to say. The system is so lacking here that if someone wanted to find help to deal with gambling addiction, they did not have many options left, beyond help groups and church, professional assistance is private.

I am trying to get your point clear, and if I really get your point, are you saying that before people with such an ailment are treated in your country, they would need to sign a commitment agreement pact before they treat them even at that state, at which medical attention would be needed? Has it gotten to the point where such cases that need immediate attention will need signatures before they are attended to? What if they are not in a stable condition to sign and there is nobody around them to sign at that moment? Would they be denied medical attention?

In my opinion, those who are addicted will find it difficult to admit their mistakes, because of course they are also addicted, I think they would be embarrassed if other people found out, now there are lots of gamblers everywhere and of course there are definitely those who are truly addicted to gambling. and if asked, I don't think he would answer that he was addicted to gambling. Of course, someone who is addicted to gambling will experience changes in their thoughts which may lead them to take unreasonable actions. and if it's really serious they can't accept the pressure caused by their own actions, the pressure they feel can make them stressed so that it can make them experience mental disorders which maybe at that time they need someone who is an expert in their field, taking drugs which may be a necessity for them to be able to recover from their addiction, some families may be embarrassed but as far as I know the family will definitely support whatever they do as long as it leads to goodness, of course to be able to recover from addiction you have to go through many things which are even hard to bear. themselves, so the role of the family is also important in this matter.

Sure, I can agree with you about the issue on whether someone having problems with gambling would be actually willing to admits those problems in order to get help, but that is why enforced committed is/was a thing in the most of developed countries in the past decades, you know. The families of the mentally sick people or people with addictions could sign some papers for them to get committed even if they did not admit they were in need of those treatments. It may sound cruel to many people, but thanks to it thousands of patients got the help they needed (at least those who were so supposed to consume medication).
For instance, I have a friend whose brother suffers from squizophrenia and when he does not want to take his medication and starts to act out, they cannot get him committed because it would take him to agree on it. To me it does not make sense to need to permission of someone in such irrational state in order to be able to help him to recover.
It may be the same with gambling addicts.

Unpopular opinion, but that is what I currently think of the approach of psychiatric institutions. 

Accessing those facilities as you have mentioned is not an issue but the issue is this, it is only when an individual agrees or admits that they have an issue that is when they will look for remedy or cure. Now the question is, will they accept the fact that they have such a problem even if they truly are? Nobody would want to admit that they have such an issue just to cover up for people not to look at them in disdain  that is why most people with psychological issues do not open up.

Observing closely his behaviors before, he passed away can determine what exactly was bothering him, however, recently people don't care about others, recently. But people are facing lots of troubles, every day, and losing out such an amount of money can contribute to the wrong decision of the person. He may have affected the growth of his business and wonders over what his life would look like without his business. Gamblers who earn money or run businesses, are meant to stay careful 24/7 not to make mistakes in their decisions of doubling the money.

And one, as a gambler, should surround himself with his loved ones who care so much about him. Everybody has a hard period where; he'd need people to save him out of the fight. Loneliness leads to bad thoughts, and that may have affected the deceased. If he had someone who talked him out of his thoughts, he may not have continued with his actions. Moreover, most often, they claim all is fine, hence, people around gamblers, should buckle up on knowing if everyone around them is doing great, regardless of their facial reactions. Life gets difficult, and people tend to make it look like all is fine with them, even when suffering a painful problem.

I am aware of it, realistically it is obvious casinos do not have the resources nor the motivation to somehow invest money into keeping mentally unstable people away from gambling, that is not their job. Their job is to provide a service to anyone who is legally in capabilities to partake on it.
I am just concerned how people who are not supposed to gamble, drink or consume some drugs are able to do so regardless of themselves and their family members being aware they are not supposed to do so.   . Some people could argue it is part of the responsabilies all of us have as adults living in relatively free societies.
Don't you think it would be awesome if people could have access to mental healthcare as easily as they can register on an online casino or buy illegal drugs in the streets? It is just curious how it is always easier to slip down the bad path than climbing up to the top of the mountain and improve our own situations, and believe me, sometimes family does not help, rather make things worse for those who have serious problems with gamling...

I hard that, in the last African football tournaments alot of people died from various reasons, one of such may not be far from this story as losing alot more than you can afford may lead to such incident and i ask again why should someone bet all his business money on a bet that you are not certain of it outcome, i think those who act that way are either addicted or misinformed about what gambling is and how to handle it tension.
Other reason why people dies suddenly during games is heart attack,  this could be as a result of having underlying health challenges before viewing a highly intention match such as if the country is playing,  many people lost their life from this incident in the last AFCON game in my country.

You can not be able to detect an unstable person at first engagement. It takes a deep thought upon first interaction to note an unstable person
 At the casino, there are lots of people coming in and going out as well so you never can tell who is who as a result of the environment being filled up with gamblers of all kinds and besides that, the casino can not really tell if someone is unstable but rather they are just after their money without being observant.

The only people that could stop a mentally unstable or deranged person from gambling is their family and loved ones who knows their state of mind. No outsider can be able to note that because they are not close to the gambler. Have you not had this experience where you meet with someone for the first time and you could not observe the person properly but as time goes on for the time you have been with the person, you begin to see the other side of the person which you never thought of. That is how the situation is. So casinos can not be able to detect such and even if they do, they would not say anything because everyone has the right to associate and not only that, it is a business venture so they would want to collect money there by ignoring what ever they have seen.

 But I wonder why should someone take his own life  just because he lost  #2.5 million to gambling an amount  equivalent to just about $3k

Bro it is not about the money I believe is more than that that is why we need to take control our gambling habit because things can be real. In the lowest point of life people can kill other people just because of food I believe.

But yeah this is crazy suicide isn't the answer really, if you guys addicted please just look for help not suicide

This is what greed do cause, it makes one to carry out some actions without considering if the result turns the other way round, if we will be able to accept it. If a lot of gamblers think about losing the game and how will that lost affect their lives negatively, I believe that many of them will not use a certain amount of money to gamble.

The deceased gambler like you said was looking for a way to double the money, because he thinks that gambling is a get rich quick scheme. Unknown to him that gamble is a means of entertainment, and he used the money that he cannot afford to lose to gamble. So sad that he didn't have anyone around him to talk some sense to him, maybe he might not have committed suicide.

maybe because they respond wrongly to gambling and cannot accept the reality of losses that will definitely occur. so when they lose they have a grudge to want to reverse the losses that have occurred and by gambling again that is their choice, but because they cannot accept defeat by gambling again, it is likely to end in losing again and their hearts cannot accept it which in the end they are on their own. experiencing their own problems with gambling which may become more serious so that impulsive actions occur and continue like that until everything goes wrong. wrong thinking can lead to serious problems, and wrongly responding to the final results of gambling can have fatal consequences. and not only with losses, if we can't handle gambling well when we win, maybe it could be a big problem, like the desire to win more, everyone definitely wants more wins, especially money or profit, everyone definitely wants it so there is a possibility that greed can also get the better of them. where this greed can lead them to something that carries big risks, such as continuing gambling by increasing the number of bets, which will most likely cause the winnings that have been obtained to be lost again and the losses that occur will make people feel confused, irritated, angry, disappointed, and even vengeful too. maybe there is.

What you say is true, whether we win or lose we must be able to respond well, be aware of the risks and consequences of gambling. In my opinion, most gamblers experience big losses or experience stress because they are not aware of the risks and consequences that exist in gambling, because they only think about winning in every gamble they make. Few people can gamble healthily, because the temptation of gambling is very strong. So many people are lulled into gambling which leads to depression and big problems. However, this happened because of one's own actions, which was wrong in responding and treating gambling incorrectly, gambling excessively but oneself was not prepared for the fact that it was definitely his fault that would happen.

I do feel bad whenever I see people commot suicide, no matter the condition which you are, suicide is not always an option, any amount which you lose from gamble, if you stop gambling and you focus on your job, then you will be able to recover, if you commit suicide, then you will put your family and your loved once in pain, no matter the condition which you are, their is always a way out, so pls no matter what we are facing, commit suicide should be the last thing which you should do.

People like this are the once that makes people in the society think that gambling is a bad activity, why do you have to loan to gamble, and why do you have to commit suicide after mistake like this have happened, the best thing is to learn from mistake and never allow similar thing to happen again, instead of commit suicide. Anybody that hears that he committed suicide because of his gambling loss, will automatically see gambling as a bad activity.

Besides of the reckless gambling, in my opinion those who choose to attempt against their own life are very likely to be suffering from a very serious mental health issue. I also try not to judge the situation which those people could have gone through in the first place, but that amount of money is no reason even consider to end ones existence in any way, shape or form.

I wonder whether there could be a way to make people who suffer from mental difficulties or do not have a good mental health to stay away from gambling, you know, it could help to decrease the amount of sad cases we all read about on social media and on the internet in general. All of us are supposed to be free to take our own choices own whether what to consume or what to do with our own money, but there must be a way for discourage unstable people to play around with their savings and thrus decreasing the percentage of suicidal gamblers in the ecosystem. It is a very complex debate between those in favor of freedom and those in favor of health.

It was obvious he did kill himself because he lost his gamble. This I believe happened as a result of his irresponsible gambling lifestyle. Possibly, he might have gambled with a loan he secured for business thinking he would cash out through the game he played but it did not end well as he planned as he  possibly left with nothing to cover up the lapses.  I believe the thought of fear and how to pay back led him to cover this .

That amount in question is not too big but to him it might be a big asset which he has already put in mind to use for establishment and it went south which he could not bear the lose and resorted to taking his life. I wish he had realised  earlier  that gambling does not guarantee him winning at his own will then.he would not have made such a mistake that resulted in him taking his life.

That's why no one should take gambling as a part of income or as serious. if they are not able to control themself then they will mostly suffer a lot and in the some point they can start taking loan and When they are faced with huge loans and they lose the ability to repay them, they will choose suicide. so one should not be emotional in a place like gambling. then it can lead to their death. gambling is very dangerous for them who get addicted on it. but who take gambling as a fun purpose they can enjoy