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Topic: [A POLL] Without Chances of Making Money, Will you still be gambling? (Read 620 times)

legendary
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I think not why continue playing if there is absolutely no chance of winning, regardless of the purpose of gambling for fun but every active gambler definitely still needs the opportunity to profit. Maybe I just limit the money to play at the casino and don't try to spend a lot of money, I whatever the type of gambling. I always set a budget that is within my means and does not exceed the limit, and when I am in a game that does not produce any opportunities I will switch to sports betting.

Sports betting provides a greater chance of profit compared to other casino games, but that is if we can prediction it correctly, I prefer gambling that has a greater chance of profit than one that has a smaller chances because even though gambling is for fun but is still profit opportunities are also important.

Yes that's the main point, however gamblers come with the intention of just entertaining themselves but still they need money from winning, let's straighten out the difference here which is that the difference is that gamblers who prioritize entertainment over winning is because they understand that gambling is a high-risk activity and this is the reason why they come with more prioritizing entertainment over winning like the addicted gamblers do. This does not mean that gamblers who only prioritize entertainment will refuse if they get a win, of course any amount of winnings is a "decent" result to take as a reward for their participation in gambling, and another difference is that gamblers who come with the goal of fun will not force winnings to come with excessive actions that are always done by addicted gamblers.

In terms of budget, of course what you are doing is indeed a recommended thing in gambling which is to limit the amount of budget, because after all gambling is just a probability activity that has no certainty of winning, simply put you can lose and can win at the end of the session and it is unknowable, meaning that only luck can make you go home with a win, and this is the reason why we are more advised to bring small amounts to gambling, because the fear is that it is very possible for you to lose when bringing large budget amounts. For sports betting it is true what you said, but maybe I wouldn't say that there is a bigger winning advantage because this depends on the amount of budget you bet, the point is that sports betting gives you a bigger "chance" and you will be able to get closer to the possibility of winning if you have good knowledge and skills, and if you have a pretty good knowledge in the field of sports then I would advise you to bet there than other bets, but still risk management still needs to be applied because after all sports are still a gamble and a possibility.
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I think not why continue playing if there is absolutely no chance of winning, regardless of the purpose of gambling for fun but every active gambler definitely still needs the opportunity to profit. Maybe I just limit the money to play at the casino and don't try to spend a lot of money, I whatever the type of gambling. I always set a budget that is within my means and does not exceed the limit, and when I am in a game that does not produce any opportunities I will switch to sports betting.

Sports betting provides a greater chance of profit compared to other casino games, but that is if we can prediction it correctly, I prefer gambling that has a greater chance of profit than one that has a smaller chances because even though gambling is for fun but is still profit opportunities are also important.
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If sports betting won't require any money but requires me money to enjoy and watch the game, that will do for me. But it's hard to comprehend it with this situation if many of us will continue to gamble without having the chance to make money or at least win some money.

That doesn't makes sense because most of us would love to watch a sports game, soccer game, basketball, boxing or any sports that we love to follow and willing to pay for the entrance and ticket of it.

And it is a different thing to analyze if we're there to gamble and we have no chance to make money. Just like in recreational areas and platforms, we pay to have fun and we don't expect something in return but look at them, they even have some little prizes for the tokens or tickets you earn there as you enkoy.
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I don't think I would gamble if there is no chance to get profit, it would undermine the whole purpose of inducing thrill on the gambler and that hooking up feeling so many people want to have while rolling dices or spinning slots.
Even though, we all know we are supposed to gamble just for amusement or fun, it is not a contradiction to also have a little chance to have profits, because someone as a responsible gambler can set their mind before gambling to the fact they could end up losing all their wager and still have a good session.
If there was no chance of profit then the experience would not be better than playing some fake-money casino games, like those I used to play when I was a child, on the Game Boy advance, for example. It was all fake money, but still it was fun.

In the case we talk about here, it would be the same but losing actual money constantly. No thank you. I would rather to find some game boy around and win virtual tokens.  Tongue

this is why a lot of players are getting hooked with gambling because of the mere thought of the possibility of hitting big, right? so that's the very reason why a lot are into this addictive activity. they are trying their luck over and over again for the hope that one day, they will hit the jackpot. because if there's no chance of such winnings, i don't think many people will get involved in this activity.

a perfect example is the lottery. we all know that hitting that thousands of dollars or million-dollar reward is such once in a lifetime opportunity or one in a million chance to happen. and yet, many people are still buying their lotto tickets everyday of their life. some are buying their tickets everyday without fail, betting those numbers again and again for years or decades. so what can you deduce from such situation? even if the chance is very very  slim, if there is a possibility to hit big, people will try to get the share of the pie by buying the tickets in their lifetime.

The fact gambling is entertaining is exactly due to the possibility of making profit through this activity. If you remove the chance of making profit entirely, it's not going to be funny anymore for most gamblers, otherwise, most people would play demo mode or free gambling apps from playstore, instead of playing at the real casino platforms. And by saying that, I don't mean people play solely for the chance of making money. There is a set of elements involved, anyway, which make this activity rewarding, even when losing on long term.

For many people it's hard to understand this reasoning, but I believe if they put themselves on more wealthy gamblers, they would understand. Those gamblers aren't playing because they are in urge for money or profit. But they like the idea of playing and having a chance to earn money. If they lose, however, it's not going to be the end of the world, because money isn't an issue for them. So they will leave the casino with less money on their pockets than they came in, but they will also leave satisfied for having some fun while playing the games, interacting with other gamblers, having some drinks or meals.

We don't need to exclude one factor from gambling to remain solely with another. Both (chance of profit and fun) are complementary.

that is a very good explanation why high rollers exist in this game. so they already have money in their pockets, and yet, why they are going to this activity? the fun/entertainment they are getting here is quite inconvertible with money plus with the hope of winning, hence, why these high rollers are here.
without the fun and possibility of winning, i don't think this will be attractive to rich gamblers.
just think of drake betting multi-million dollars in a single game. why do you think he keeps on doing such activity? he already has millions and yet, he is still trying his luck to multiply it? just goes to show that he is getting satisfaction out of it, enjoying the match esp if he is rooting for someone and at the same time, the possibility of growing his money multiple times.
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Honestly I wouldn't bet on sports if I didn't win money, I say this because the fun part of gambling is the fact that although the odds are very low, there is still a chance that someone can play with little and be lucky enough to win a lot of money. , so I don't see much motivation in someone spending hours analyzing a game and then putting money in and knowing that even if they got the game's result right, that person wouldn't win anything. I highly doubt many people would be in casinos if casinos weren't giving money to the winner. People buy lottery tickets every day, they do it for many years, and they only keep doing it because they hope that one day they will hit the jackpot and become very rich

Everyone likes their efforts to be rewarded, that's why when you have a place where with little effort you will have a lot of reward, so many people run to such places. I remember that in the past a person who played the lottery a lot asked me about sports betting, so I explained everything about export betting to that person. Then she asked me if she placed $1 on sports betting, how much money would she have if she got it right? I then responded by telling him that at most, even if he made a very large bet and it was a multibet bet, he wouldn't win money capable of making him rich, not even $500 wouldn't be. Then he told me that it was pointless to spend time and money on something where the reward was very low. it wasn't worth it. So I was shocked.
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The fact gambling is entertaining is exactly due to the possibility of making profit through this activity. If you remove the chance of making profit entirely, it's not going to be funny anymore for most gamblers, otherwise, most people would play demo mode or free gambling apps from playstore, instead of playing at the real casino platforms. And by saying that, I don't mean people play solely for the chance of making money. There is a set of elements involved, anyway, which make this activity rewarding, even when losing on long term.

For many people it's hard to understand this reasoning, but I believe if they put themselves on more wealthy gamblers, they would understand. Those gamblers aren't playing because they are in urge for money or profit. But they like the idea of playing and having a chance to earn money. If they lose, however, it's not going to be the end of the world, because money isn't an issue for them. So they will leave the casino with less money on their pockets than they came in, but they will also leave satisfied for having some fun while playing the games, interacting with other gamblers, having some drinks or meals.

We don't need to exclude one factor from gambling to remain solely with another. Both (chance of profit and fun) are complementary.
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I don't think I would gamble if there is no chance to get profit, it would undermine the whole purpose of inducing thrill on the gambler and that hooking up feeling so many people want to have while rolling dices or spinning slots.
Even though, we all know we are supposed to gamble just for amusement or fun, it is not a contradiction to also have a little chance to have profits, because someone as a responsible gambler can set their mind before gambling to the fact they could end up losing all their wager and still have a good session.
If there was no chance of profit then the experience would not be better than playing some fake-money casino games, like those I used to play when I was a child, on the Game Boy advance, for example. It was all fake money, but still it was fun.

In the case we talk about here, it would be the same but losing actual money constantly. No thank you. I would rather to find some game boy around and win virtual tokens.  Tongue
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So, one question I want to ask is, if games were built to be played with money on casinos like we do now, with absolutely no chances of making money even when you win a game, would you still be spending money playing this games or betting on sports games?


This is not gambling if there’s no chance on making of money. We are gambling because of the “chance” even if small to win a profit on a short period of time. It’s a complete waste of money and time to still try on playing a gambling games that will surely make you lose.

We are not gambling to lose and most importantly we will not be entertained if we are losing because there’s no fun on doing it. It’s hypocrisy to its finest to say that they will still play on games that they have a chance to win at all. Same idea with playing skill based game like poker against pro while you literally have zero skills at all to play that game. There’s no fun on losing.
Yes, I agree with you. It is hypocritical of others to claim that they will bet without expecting anything in return. Although they may receive something, gambling is merely a form of entertainment, and I respect their decision to keep playing even though there is no chance of winning. When you consider it, though, it's incredibly hypocritical since, come on, who doesn't like money? I mean, a lot of us desire financial stability, am I right? And the most vital and significant means of survival that humans have in this world is money.
 
I mean, if gambling doesn't even involve money or thrill people, then, in my opinion, it doesn't do much justice. After all, what good is it to gamble if you're just wasting your time and money on pointless things?
In the end, the person in charge of the casino will become wealthier and continue to profit from the players since he will continue to take in money and have it withdrawn. So for me, it's better to spin your money around and play with it than waste it.
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So, one question I want to ask is, if games were built to be played with money on casinos like we do now, with absolutely no chances of making money even when you win a game, would you still be spending money playing this games or betting on sports games?


This is not gambling if there’s no chance on making of money. We are gambling because of the “chance” even if small to win a profit on a short period of time. It’s a complete waste of money and time to still try on playing a gambling games that will surely make you lose.

We are not gambling to lose and most importantly we will not be entertained if we are losing because there’s no fun on doing it. It’s hypocrisy to its finest to say that they will still play on games that they have a chance to win at all. Same idea with playing skill based game like poker against pro while you literally have zero skills at all to play that game. There’s no fun on losing.
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a bet must always have an advantage... it must always offer something. if it doesn't offer money... What does it offer in exchange of taking the risk?
if it doesn't offer anything it's no longer a bet... in my opinion it's very simple reasoning...

Sure, because it's something that makes all gamblers interested in getting in and getting involved, we and they can't lie to ourselves that if there were no monetary winnings in gambling then obviously the number of people interested would be very small or even nonexistent, the point is that what makes gambling interesting is because there is an object that everyone really needs which is money and because gambling provides an opportunity for anyone to win, but we must remember that it is nothing more than a "chance" which means there is no certainty and no guarantee that it can become a reality. I think we already know about the concept of gambling where you bring something to bet on and the casino will give the possibility of odds to everyone involved and bet there, it's quite simple.
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if games were built to be played with money on casinos like we do now, with absolutely no chances of making money even when you win a game, would you still be spending money playing this games or betting on sports games?
Given the scenario where there is no chances of getting money from it then why should I waste my time and money gambling? Much better to spend that money for food and share it to homeless people in the streets. The reason why we gamble is to have fun and this...
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I'm also surprised that there are votes to option 1 but we all have different preferences when it comes to betting.
If I were the person who votes the first option, it's better for me to donate my money to charity instead of make a bet. Tongue

Haha but first I see inconsistency here. How will someone stake money when he knows that if the outcome is that he won but he won't get any money in return and he will continue to play? Even those in the saying that gambling is for fun will not continue. So the answer is no. I won't play if the mode is on no payment if you win, gambling is not only tied with fun or fulfillment but you gamble for money and staking your money without the expectation of money is like cooking food without adding salt to it.
Yeah, it's not make sense at all since you're not gaining anything.

It's really different with a charity fight where the reward will be donated to charity, even the players or teams didn't earn anything, they still get respects or fames from people. It will make them become more popular and have an opportunity to earn money.
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a bet must always have an advantage... it must always offer something. if it doesn't offer money... What does it offer in exchange of taking the risk?
if it doesn't offer anything it's no longer a bet... in my opinion it's very simple reasoning...

If it doesnt really risking any funds or money then it isnt really gambling in the first place and this is something that people should really be that realizing
on which gambling is something that you are risking something to earn something, doesnt matter if its a money, possession, or thing that does have value.
If ever there would really be those bets having no value then it isnt really that gambling at all.

Its up to you whether you would really be putting up something has value to increase or put up some thrill or would really be having
that kind of excitement on which we know that this is something that other people would really be trying to seek or look for.
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So, one question I want to ask is, if games were built to be played with money on casinos like we do now, with absolutely no chances of making money even when you win a game, would you still be spending money playing this games or betting on sports games?


Haha but first I see inconsistency here. How will someone stake money when he knows that if the outcome is that he won but he won't get any money in return and he will continue to play? Even those in the saying that gambling is for fun will not continue. So the answer is no. I won't play if the mode is on no payment if you win, gambling is not only tied with fun or fulfillment but you gamble for money and staking your money without the expectation of money is like cooking food without adding salt to it.

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a bet must always have an advantage... it must always offer something. if it doesn't offer money... What does it offer in exchange of taking the risk?
if it doesn't offer anything it's no longer a bet... in my opinion it's very simple reasoning...
You are right, and in essence, what if the money being spent is offering you pleasure in return? Instead of the chances of making a bigger amount of money back in return?
What if the something that the game is offering is pleasure, like for example, in all this video, mobile and computer games we play on our phone and computer, we do normally see that some or most of those games comes with in-app purchases, which means that, players can spend money to purchase some items in inside the game in order to boost their gaming experience and nothing more, and funny enough, most players of such games actually do spend their hard earned money buy some meaningless stuff only just to increase their gaming pleasure,  Grin, does it mean they don't know what they are doing?
Wouldnt you still spend money to increase your gaming pleasure and give you a better experience, instead of potentially winning money?
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a bet must always have an advantage... it must always offer something. if it doesn't offer money... What does it offer in exchange of taking the risk?
if it doesn't offer anything it's no longer a bet... in my opinion it's very simple reasoning...
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Chances to win money is the main adrenaline in gambling, it doesn't matter if the winning is small and you've lost more in gambling, coupled with the fact that it might not solve any major financial needs for you, but just the excitement of winning is part of the fun. So if you remove winnings in gambling, it'll become boring and I doubt that it should be called gambling again, it'll probably be like some kids games , there'll be no real adventure in it, because nothing is at stake to challenge you, whether you'll defeat it or not. There's that part of us as humans that wants to take risks and we unleash it when we gamble, so without the prospect of betting money and the chances of winnings, gambling won't complete.
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So far, this is the result of the poll, reflecting the players' goals when they gamble. Gamblers understand the definition of gambling: it's staking or betting your money in the hope that you'll receive something in return if you get lucky. It's demoralizing to play on a platform where your chances of winning are zero. Even when the odds are one in a million, you still want to have a chance. Given two similar platforms, the platform that provides chances to win will receive more votes, as reflected in this poll.
I'm also surprised that there are votes to option 1 but we all have different preferences when it comes to betting.

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Oh yes, I will be happy spending my money, gambling for nothing but fun.   - 9 (25%)
Hell no, why would I waste my money doing something that has no chance of bringing me money back in return?   - 27 (75%)
Total Voters: 36
legendary
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If there's absolutely no chance to win, surely the only appeal to gambling would be maybe the graphics and the community?
I can't think of anything else in terms of playing.
But to be honest both the community and graphics in Gambling aren't strong. Money is literally the whole foundation to it.
Perhaps the point of not winning money but at least winning something would still entice people. But winning nothing of value when gambling and not even having any chances?
How could we even call that gambling?
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And that's pretty much all the qualms I have against people who gamble for profit really. The fact that they delude themselves into thinking the casino will give them a fair chance when house edge literally exists and then cry about it when they don't get what they want appalls me so much that I can sometimes see what my brain looks like from how far my eyes roll back.
Don't you think people of nowadays has been gradually trying to change the gambling language to a place of wealth doubling? Maybe could be Yes or Not but recently let say for the past 15 to 10 years now people orientation has drifted from where it's to a more better and wanting state although it could be that the economic recession or inflation has taken over making people to diversify their skills and while much more people delving into gambling to increase their potential for a sustainable source.
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