A positive evaluation of gambling. - page 4.

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Gambling taught me to be careful with my money and increased my literacy because after losing a couple of times in any game of chance a person begins to study it more deeply. In addition, I believe that by trading cryptocurrencies and gambling a person can increase the level of self-control.

here's a good example of a positive side of it
of course it won't be like that for all the people but it can really teach some people and help improving self-control

the problem is for those it doesn't help, or even diminish self-control sometimes.

There are some activities that shape your character while there are others that reveal it, I think of gambling as an activity that reveals your character more than anything, when I see a person that is unable to control their gambling I cannot help to think they are that impulsive in many other aspects of their lives and gambling is just showing this in a very clear way, and when I see someone that controls it and even learns something from it I see a person that is well adjusted and that can deal with all kind of adversity life throws at them.

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Bearing losses has been developed in me when I became a long time gambler who moulded his attitude in such a way that losses don't put me down anymore and I learn from my mistakes, write them down and try not to repeat them again. Gamblers who spend a lot of time gambling do understand the fact that be it their day or not, learning something new and being entertained from their gambling activities should be their main motive.

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By the way, I remembered the story of one successful bettor - Bob Voulgaris. Gambling had an obvious positive impact on his life: at first, he developed his own system for analyzing odds and finding inaccuracies (he specialized in the NBA) was able to win millions. After the world of big data (and apparently neural networks) came, he could no longer win as before, but he was hired to one of the NBA teams as an analyst.

Yes, I read about Bob Voulgaris. In addition to being very adept at analyzing huge amounts of information, he loved to play poker and even won quite large sums in poker tournaments. He really accomplished a lot thanks to the gambling industry and computerization.

Nowadays it is rather sad to read such stories. Neural networks and bigdata have reached such a level that it is impossible to "beat" them - they see such patterns that a person does not even suspect. And now, looking into the past, we see opportunities that cannot (most likely) be found now. It's like remembering the times when you could buy a lot of bitcoins for scanty sums of money.

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By the way, I remembered the story of one successful bettor - Bob Voulgaris. Gambling had an obvious positive impact on his life: at first, he developed his own system for analyzing odds and finding inaccuracies (he specialized in the NBA) was able to win millions. After the world of big data (and apparently neural networks) came, he could no longer win as before, but he was hired to one of the NBA teams as an analyst.

Yes, I read about Bob Voulgaris. In addition to being very adept at analyzing huge amounts of information, he loved to play poker and even won quite large sums in poker tournaments. He really accomplished a lot thanks to the gambling industry and computerization.

It can be said that he is a professional in the field of gambling if he has made a lot of money, especially if he has been recruited in one of the NBA, of course this is positive for him after doing the right analysis on the information provided.

So in real gambling there is a positive session if we take the right steps, for example from the one we are talking about, if we can master the field that we like including gambling then I think it will be a good evaluation for us.

yes, like you said. because indeed everything must be based on hobbies and love of something we do first so that everything can go well.
and people who are frustrated in gambling that they lose are actually themselves, they are so greedy and use emotions in gambling that they make losses.
This should be realized by gamblers because they will always lose if they use their emotions and greed.

Realization do always come in the end and this had always be the case on which people do learn up things when they had able to experience on whats the reality.

Most of the time whenever we do start up on this venture we do really believe that easy money or profits is easy but once the reality had experienced
you would really tell that its never been an easy thing to deal with.

Making it as a hobby is dangerous thats why it would be good that you do really treat it as an entertainment.

People always regret their actions after they have already experienced the result. It's a typical occurrence in this world for people to regret their actions in the end, but the best part is that you'll learn from your mistakes because you've regretted them. There are no simple things in life; those things that came up so readily were probably sheer chance, or they deserved it by working their absolute best the entire time. Gambling is not for the average individual who does not have a large budget for gambling because they are the most common victims of addiction.

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By the way, I remembered the story of one successful bettor - Bob Voulgaris. Gambling had an obvious positive impact on his life: at first, he developed his own system for analyzing odds and finding inaccuracies (he specialized in the NBA) was able to win millions. After the world of big data (and apparently neural networks) came, he could no longer win as before, but he was hired to one of the NBA teams as an analyst.

Yes, I read about Bob Voulgaris. In addition to being very adept at analyzing huge amounts of information, he loved to play poker and even won quite large sums in poker tournaments. He really accomplished a lot thanks to the gambling industry and computerization.

It can be said that he is a professional in the field of gambling if he has made a lot of money, especially if he has been recruited in one of the NBA, of course this is positive for him after doing the right analysis on the information provided.

So in real gambling there is a positive session if we take the right steps, for example from the one we are talking about, if we can master the field that we like including gambling then I think it will be a good evaluation for us.

yes, like you said. because indeed everything must be based on hobbies and love of something we do first so that everything can go well.
and people who are frustrated in gambling that they lose are actually themselves, they are so greedy and use emotions in gambling that they make losses.
This should be realized by gamblers because they will always lose if they use their emotions and greed.

Realization do always come in the end and this had always be the case on which people do learn up things when they had able to experience on whats the reality.

Most of the time whenever we do start up on this venture we do really believe that easy money or profits is easy but once the reality had experienced
you would really tell that its never been an easy thing to deal with.

Making it as a hobby is dangerous thats why it would be good that you do really treat it as an entertainment.

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By the way, I remembered the story of one successful bettor - Bob Voulgaris. Gambling had an obvious positive impact on his life: at first, he developed his own system for analyzing odds and finding inaccuracies (he specialized in the NBA) was able to win millions. After the world of big data (and apparently neural networks) came, he could no longer win as before, but he was hired to one of the NBA teams as an analyst.

Yes, I read about Bob Voulgaris. In addition to being very adept at analyzing huge amounts of information, he loved to play poker and even won quite large sums in poker tournaments. He really accomplished a lot thanks to the gambling industry and computerization.

It can be said that he is a professional in the field of gambling if he has made a lot of money, especially if he has been recruited in one of the NBA, of course this is positive for him after doing the right analysis on the information provided.

So in real gambling there is a positive session if we take the right steps, for example from the one we are talking about, if we can master the field that we like including gambling then I think it will be a good evaluation for us.

yes, like you said. because indeed everything must be based on hobbies and love of something we do first so that everything can go well.
and people who are frustrated in gambling that they lose are actually themselves, they are so greedy and use emotions in gambling that they make losses.
This should be realized by gamblers because they will always lose if they use their emotions and greed.

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Quote from: madnessteat on November 17, 2021, 03:24:06 PM

Gambling taught me to be careful with my money and increased my literacy because after losing a couple of times in any game of chance a person begins to study it more deeply. In addition, I believe that by trading cryptocurrencies and gambling a person can increase the level of self-control.

here's a good example of a positive side of it
of course it won't be like that for all the people but it can really teach some people and help improving self-control

the problem is for those it doesn't help, or even diminish self-control sometimes.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on November 15, 2021, 07:06:08 AM

- Consistency/ Not quiting attitude; Always trying regardless of previous results.

In gambling they say, "a winner is the one who knows when to stop". This mindset of "Always trying regardless of previous results" is held by gamblers who are eager to lose everything in gambling. You need to analyze where are you heading, are you losing money again and again? If that is the case then you really need to take break, else you will lose everything.

This is the risk of gambling and it's always a 50-50 decision no matter what but for those who are eager to win and has a plan how to win might achieve this but on the other hand, I bet this is somehow developing a chronic gambling disorder. It's hard to say to stop or continue to gamble since gambling is not for everyone and it's always a way to entertain oneself. If you look at it in a positive way then that's fine as long as you are not developing something that would ruin your life in the process.

But if you start to get anxiety and developing a stress when losing then it's time to think hard and stop what you are doing.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 18, 2021, 04:59:12 AM

By the way, I remembered the story of one successful bettor - Bob Voulgaris. Gambling had an obvious positive impact on his life: at first, he developed his own system for analyzing odds and finding inaccuracies (he specialized in the NBA) was able to win millions. After the world of big data (and apparently neural networks) came, he could no longer win as before, but he was hired to one of the NBA teams as an analyst.

Yes, I read about Bob Voulgaris. In addition to being very adept at analyzing huge amounts of information, he loved to play poker and even won quite large sums in poker tournaments. He really accomplished a lot thanks to the gambling industry and computerization.

It can be said that he is a professional in the field of gambling if he has made a lot of money, especially if he has been recruited in one of the NBA, of course this is positive for him after doing the right analysis on the information provided.

So in real gambling there is a positive session if we take the right steps, for example from the one we are talking about, if we can master the field that we like including gambling then I think it will be a good evaluation for us.

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Quote from: Obito on November 18, 2021, 07:39:47 AM

The things that you've listed isn't enough to outweigh the negative effects of gambling and to be honest, risk taking, positivity, moving forward and consistent can be developed in other ways, to be honest, I think those should've been developed during an individual's formative years. Be that as many people glamorize these benefits, gambling is a vice no matter what.

Only few who really win alot and got properties or make their lives better will say gambling a positive job or activity. The outlook on how we will be able to use the winning and how to stop when loses occurs depends on us. Positivity will be in our mind and self control, others able to win in lottery and lost all their winnings in nothing but pure waste while others able to build their own business and keep their life going without going back in gambling. It’s just a matter of perspective and how we handle the situations.

Different people do have different perspectives in life. You made a good point by giving those examples.

It's undeniable that there are people who were able to win a lot from gambling but ended up losing everything back or just waste
the opportunities to make a good life after having a huge amount of money.

while some may succeed and change everything in terms of financial stability after having that chance
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Quote from: KTChampions on November 18, 2021, 04:59:12 AM

By the way, I remembered the story of one successful bettor - Bob Voulgaris. Gambling had an obvious positive impact on his life: at first, he developed his own system for analyzing odds and finding inaccuracies (he specialized in the NBA) was able to win millions. After the world of big data (and apparently neural networks) came, he could no longer win as before, but he was hired to one of the NBA teams as an analyst.

Yes, I read about Bob Voulgaris. In addition to being very adept at analyzing huge amounts of information, he loved to play poker and even won quite large sums in poker tournaments. He really accomplished a lot thanks to the gambling industry and computerization.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on November 15, 2021, 07:06:08 AM

- Consistency/ Not quiting attitude; Always trying regardless of previous results.

In gambling they say, "a winner is the one who knows when to stop". This mindset of "Always trying regardless of previous results" is held by gamblers who are eager to lose everything in gambling. You need to analyze where are you heading, are you losing money again and again? If that is the case then you really need to take break, else you will lose everything.

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Quote from: Obito on November 18, 2021, 07:39:47 AM

The things that you've listed isn't enough to outweigh the negative effects of gambling and to be honest, risk taking, positivity, moving forward and consistent can be developed in other ways, to be honest, I think those should've been developed during an individual's formative years. Be that as many people glamorize these benefits, gambling is a vice no matter what.

Only few who really win alot and got properties or make their lives better will say gambling a positive job or activity. The outlook on how we will be able to use the winning and how to stop when loses occurs depends on us. Positivity will be in our mind and self control, others able to win in lottery and lost all their winnings in nothing but pure waste while others able to build their own business and keep their life going without going back in gambling. It’s just a matter of perspective and how we handle the situations.

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Quote from: Obito on November 18, 2021, 07:39:47 AM

The things that you've listed isn't enough to outweigh the negative effects of gambling and to be honest, risk taking, positivity, moving forward and consistent can be developed in other ways, to be honest, I think those should've been developed during an individual's formative years. Be that as many people glamorize these benefits, gambling is a vice no matter what.

The negative effects of gambling will certainly have a bad impact on all areas of life that we live, and I think it is precisely in gambling that we cannot find positive effects that can have a long-term impact for we life, so far we can see how many gambling addicts actually experience adversity in their lives and not infrequently even make their family lives shattered because of gambling.

in this case it actually depends on people's perspectives but when compared between successful people and people who fail at gambling, of course, it is clear that many people fail and are in a slump.
but on the other hand they will continue to always do that and even myself included in it, because indeed things like this will continue to happen considering the attraction of gambling is so strong.
and from here it is up to the gambler how they look from what side when they are getting ready to gamble. whether they can overcome emotions and greed or not because this is really important.

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Quote from: Obito on November 18, 2021, 07:39:47 AM

The things that you've listed isn't enough to outweigh the negative effects of gambling and to be honest, risk taking, positivity, moving forward and consistent can be developed in other ways, to be honest, I think those should've been developed during an individual's formative years. Be that as many people glamorize these benefits, gambling is a vice no matter what.

The negative effects of gambling will certainly have a bad impact on all areas of life that we live, and I think it is precisely in gambling that we cannot find positive effects that can have a long-term impact for we life, so far we can see how many gambling addicts actually experience adversity in their lives and not infrequently even make their family lives shattered because of gambling.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on November 15, 2021, 07:06:08 AM

From self evaluation and the evaluation of a few gamblers around me, i have observed that over time due to gambling activity, some characters worthy of emulation have been unconsciously developed by some.

Some of the characters that i have observed from the life of a few core gamblers around me and myself are;

-Development of Risk taking ability; to win big in life, you must be willing to try, and gamblers have so developed their risk taking ability.
...

Of all the ones you mention, this is probably the most important one. We all take risks all moments of our lives, some are large and some small, but usually we do not get to choose which ones. The ability to take risks voluntarily and on a conscious level, weighting the odds is an ability that does not come naturally. There is an evolutionary reason for it - most of our ancestors would be dead if they decided to take too much risk, while small risks, like exploring cautiously, are natural.

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The things that you've listed isn't enough to outweigh the negative effects of gambling and to be honest, risk taking, positivity, moving forward and consistent can be developed in other ways, to be honest, I think those should've been developed during an individual's formative years. Be that as many people glamorize these benefits, gambling is a vice no matter what.

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Another quality that I consider very positive in gambling is the search for knowledge when it involves sports betting, mainly.
To be able to bet on a team or player/athlete, it is necessary to do a lot of research beforehand to check the status of the league, team or player to better predict the odds.
So at this point, the bettor ends up getting out of that addictive betting routine and looking for information about something that is actually happening in the real world.

Also as a bettor or gambler you learned a skill of having a proper research about the team or kind of gambling that you are going to try or enter. It's very necessarily that you know how to perform a project research and know how to assess the kind of gambling or betting sports that you are going to try. Talking about the essence why the thread were talking about the positive evaluation of gambling I do believe that the kind of negative effect applies to some or other gambler who have no self-limitation and control over the things that they have done, also in the first place when we hear about gambling we already figure out the negative effects.

Yes, in that case it certainly makes someone more careful and considerate in doing things, but at least there will always be moments where deeper research doesn't need to be done also when we are sure of our personal thoughts. I personally believe that by gambling at least they or gamblers will be able to control their emotions to remain calm under pressure even though indeed, these factors do not always work well for all gamblers. But when a person or gambler can apply things like that in his life too, then of course something positive has been formed in his personality.

For experience people who we see gamble and still we see them earning some profits on their plays maybe we can see that they are calm also can able to handle pressure in certain instance but this situation or attitude is not with those people who's just starting up and think about gambling as their possible profit generator where they can earn a decent amount daily, but it turns up that they are chasing for profits and end up losing. Hopefully new people have a calm mindset and always take gambling as for fun only.

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Quote from: alegotardo on November 17, 2021, 08:55:12 PM

Another quality that I consider very positive in gambling is the search for knowledge when it involves sports betting, mainly.
To be able to bet on a team or player/athlete, it is necessary to do a lot of research beforehand to check the status of the league, team or player to better predict the odds.
So at this point, the bettor ends up getting out of that addictive betting routine and looking for information about something that is actually happening in the real world.

Yes, sports betting is very useful for developing a person's analytical skills.

The player must learn to work with information. He needs to develop critical thinking skills. To be successful in sports betting, you need to apply the scientific method. A person with irrational magical thinking will not be able to secure a gain.

I'm not talking about poker!

Poker allows you to pump a huge number of useful skills. A good poker player is a psychologist and a mathematician at the same time. That is, both the left and right hemispheres of the brain work harmoniously. In addition, a good poker player is not only a tactician, but also a strategist.

Such skills are very useful in everyday life as well.

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Quote from: molsewid on November 17, 2021, 09:48:53 PM

Quote from: alegotardo on November 17, 2021, 08:55:12 PM

Another quality that I consider very positive in gambling is the search for knowledge when it involves sports betting, mainly.
To be able to bet on a team or player/athlete, it is necessary to do a lot of research beforehand to check the status of the league, team or player to better predict the odds.
So at this point, the bettor ends up getting out of that addictive betting routine and looking for information about something that is actually happening in the real world.

Also as a bettor or gambler you learned a skill of having a proper research about the team or kind of gambling that you are going to try or enter. It's very necessarily that you know how to perform a project research and know how to assess the kind of gambling or betting sports that you are going to try. Talking about the essence why the thread were talking about the positive evaluation of gambling I do believe that the kind of negative effect applies to some or other gambler who have no self-limitation and control over the things that they have done, also in the first place when we hear about gambling we already figure out the negative effects.

Yes, in that case it certainly makes someone more careful and considerate in doing things, but at least there will always be moments where deeper research doesn't need to be done also when we are sure of our personal thoughts. I personally believe that by gambling at least they or gamblers will be able to control their emotions to remain calm under pressure even though indeed, these factors do not always work well for all gamblers. But when a person or gambler can apply things like that in his life too, then of course something positive has been formed in his personality.

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