Topic: a society question about vegans - page 2. (Read 859 times)

(i understand your sentiment was comedic)
but them dirt paths you follow that have been constant year after year, caused by just low population of a few ramblers walking the same strict route. as most other human population use roads instead

now imagine a field being used like a music festival routinely,trampled on randomly with no obvious care for direction or route


because after all cows dont the intellect to drive cars to just stick to roads or enough intellect to stick to paths
its why farmers doing organic grass feed free range farming have to section off fields and herd cows to new sections every fortnight in cycles of a couple months


to then.. human organised reseed .. the first patch and give it time to regrow over that 6week recovery time before letting the cattle back on that section

imagine if farmers didnt do that and just let cows bred naturally by not separating the bull from the cows, and not sectioning off area's to give it a chance to regrow. nor reseed the land after the cows move to new area's

Phew. Thanks.

I have to take partial responsibility for this. Me and my vegan friends frequently trample through farmers' fields under cover of darkness, foraging for nuts and berries.

you will be glad to know you still dont have to agree with badecker. because not everything grows back each spring
especially if its been trampled over..

what badecker and most people think is that land heals itself no matter if its unused or over used. spouting out how grass seeds can regrow in just 6 weeks.
however. that involves maintaining the land to not be over used or having to re-seed the land

hints: why do farmers even need to buy grass seed, why do people need to water their lawns and land


research: land degradation

I knew it would happen one day. I find myself in agreement with one of BADecker's posts.
Oh. My. (non-existent) God.

Still have time to get into the serious drought like you mentioned,maybe in 2050 humans will eat anything they have or they will other humans.

if whaling and fishing is banned. even the algae would disappear due to whale population growth imbalancing the whale:fish:algae ratio
 
if farming is banned even the healthy vegetation would disappear due to the cattle:crop imbalance

but enjoy your weed and poison berry soup. have fun with the stomach aches, vomiting and eventual death
long live the poisonous puffer fish

Hey, man. Thanks for showing us that even you know stuff that is common knowledge to everybody. There are many places in the world where plants grow without threat of annihilation. Everything you say is common knowledge, but has nothing to do with the questions being asked.

If you get hungry enough, you'll eat just about anything.     

though i dont like to teach badecker, it seems like i have to as he doesnt seem to have deeper thoughts on issues

plants dont just grow from nothing. pollonation and seeds are needed. and when animals outnumber the space for its green feed they eat it to death. this means that they eat it to such a point that the plants dont even get a chance to flower/pollonate to even create new seeds to allow the wind to blow it around to reseed the soil.
animals tread on land and bread the seed.
no roots in the soil means less of a viable land to retain water thus the soil becomes dry and too brittle to be seeded.

come on just think about it logically. when a farmer harvests. does he just wait for spring and magically a new crop is growing.. no
the farmer has to re toil the land(break up the dry brittle land) seed the land and fertilise the land and water it

if regrowth was so natural, guess what.. farmers would only need to work in august to harvest crops and then take the rest of the year off.. but they dont.

if badecker thinks that it just grows back naturally then h has not stepped into the countryside to s what really goes on. and h would have a hard time trying to explain why selling grass seed is even a thing. if in his mind grass just appaers out of nothing each spring.
what he forgets in a non-over grazed non over trampled field the plants and grass have had chance to pollenate and the roots of previous year remain like a net to retain the moisture and nutriants so yes in a field where herds have not gone crazy on the land it 'could' grow naturally. but when there is a over use of the land by herds. then nature just crumbles into dry brittle soil

same goes for rain forests. cut it all down and whats left is dry brittle soil thus land dries up and temperatures in the area get hotter because theirs no moisture in the soil or air to evaporate and take the heat away

You can jump from the second floor and still can alive doesn't mean we have to jump from there.

Let the fishes eat algae and eats the fishes later,make the things simple.

Now you are talking about supporting a world of many more billions than exist right now. Don't forget that we and the animals can eat algae and plankton.

Only grass will grow in days but plants take months,if it is in organic then will take more longer.

Lets assume there are 200 plants,50 animals and 50 humans in this earth.50 animal eat 100 plants,25 human eats 50 animal and the 25 remaining eats 100 plants.

If every human in this world becomes vegan he need to share that 200 plants between 50 animals and 50 humans,so huge difference in the availability of food right?

You don't understand that green things grow back? Don't you have winter over there in Ireland? Doesn't the grass turn brown in the fall, and turn green again in the spring? Even if it doesn't happen where you are, it happens all over the world in many other places.

Even now we are suing lot of fertilizers to grow the things more faster due to lack of availability so how the humanity will survive if no meat to eat.

Anyway not every vegan is vegan,because at some point they were eating adulterated foods of no veg items without their knowledge.

yep. many vegans dont realise that if animals spread and reproduce and graze on everything green , nothing green is left.

vegans dont realise that 'organic' 'free range' farming ends up needing several fields where cows are periodically herded into other fenced off fields before all the grass is grazed, so that while in another field the first has time to recover and regrow. without farmers/cowbows to herd cows around in a controlled methodic method the animals just eat anything they find.

its why raccoons run out of 'natural' food and end up straying into cities to raid trashcans because they ate all the natural food in the countryside.

if vegans think there is a lack of vegetable supply to feed everyone now. imagine the situation after wild animals are grazing

If you say it was sarcasm, then I might understand that it is. But there would still be some doubt, because you might be speaking sarcastically when you say that it is sarcasm.

This being the case, there is no need to take anything you say as meaning anything.

If we stop killing animals,then this world will become a desert in few decades.

Vegans are just stupids who don't have enough knowledge to know about the food cycle chain.

you do realise it was not actually a real question but a sarcastic rhetorical sentence to raise a point..
i guess you missed the point which does not require becoming a follower of a fan club

again to end this subject

raw food requiring a cook book... 
it like saying space requires oxygen to be a void

lets word it another way just for you
if you think you ned a cook book to teach you how to cook meat in a RAW DIET. your missing many points.

but i hope you enjoy following the cooks that dont cook and the lentz that doesnt know law

have a good day though

Don't you get it? I was simply showing you where to go to get your questions answered. If you don't want answers to your questions, I'm all good with that! But then why did you ask? You can recheck your questions above in the quoted posts.

Don't get me wrong. Intelligence is so overrated. You probably have many other good points that override your intelligence lacks in some ways. So, don't feel bad.

you dont get it
COOK book... for people who dont COOK
its simple english. no need for anyone to become follower number 12,001 to find that out