Topic: About Compulsive gambling. - page 4. (Read 923 times)
The answer would always be the , people should get therapy and improve their self-discipline, but I think the problem doesn't come only from the person but the businesses too, as long as there are people that are willing to exploit this poor people there is a big chance that the problem of compulsive gambling will not stuff.
Compulsive gambling is a product of addiction. When these kinds of things happens to you then you may have lost yourself and people like that are usually miserable. Such person will need a help from loved ones. , He will need to forget about all his previous to overcome that compulsion because that is the chain of connection between them.
Family support is one thing but gambling addiction or compulsive gambling is as dangerous as smoking and drugs because while it does not effect you physically as much although it does hurt you mentally but it hurts you financially. Any addiction that is affecting you financially must be treated in a proper way and when I say proper I mean there must be a doctor's advice whether it is psychological advice or they suggest you to visit rehab centers.I wonder why people have hard time confessing about their gambling habit while they will proudly walk into rehab center if they are addicted with drugs and feel proud they are being treated. I don't know if drugs addiction counts as a sign of royalty but I have often seen that such people don't feel shame while a gambler would always ashamed to confess their gambling addiction to anyone even their family.
Do you mean the problem of separation from society? This problem concerns not only gambling - many online gamers or some other games become fanatics of this activity and forget about everything else. I heard in China there were cases when players died right in the gaming clubs due to the fact that they forgot to eat/sleep.
I'm an online gamer and I felt this. Separation from society.Whenever I go out, I'm comfortable if I'm alone compare to the times where I got some friends if I'm outside. You said that there are cases in China who died because they forgot to eat/sleep. That only means that they are in a gaming addiction and many are experiencing the same thing as they've experienced. Lucky for me, I can control myself whenever and I can manage my time. I know how many hours will I play, go outside, eat and sleep but there are times that I take lesser sleep hours than the usual but I only do it once a week (mostly on Fridays) because of my current work too.
The feeling of comfort from being alone is probably not related to desocialization from games. I think this is just a stage of growing up.
The fact that you follow time management and do not allow games to take your time from necessary things such as sleep and work suggests that everything is fine with you and you have no dependence with which you should fight.
We also have to believe that it is not only about losing, gamblers who are addictive also have some trouble stopping even though they are already winning big, that's the reason why most of the time they end up losing even if they have a good start.
Excellent point made, actually it's winning that makes gambling more addictive because when you initially gamble and you loose then you won't get habitual to it but for some reason if you win then you get addicted to it and feel like you found an easy way of earning which is what casinos want because I remember I was talking to a real life casino owner and someone won a big amount and I asked him how do yo handle these losses? he told me just one line " No matter how much he wins today, eventually he will loose all one day here itself".Rehabilitation can cure compulsiveness or if he/she experienced great loss, that is the perfect time healing arrives.
I agree that sometimes too big a loss can wake you up and that is a good time to re-evaluate yourself because no matter what anyone says as long as we are in the gambling trap where we loose some money win some loose more repeat we would never understand how much we are actually loosing. But once we loose a big amount suddenly we realize like "oh man what have I done?" that is the feeling that can help you exclude yourself from gambling. There are times that whenever your family and your friend advise to you about stopping on gamble, you keep on ignoring them, you do not listen to them anymore even though they care so much to you and when you deny them then you may consider yourself having a compulsive gambling disorder, you don't care anymore to anyone, the only thing you want is gambling.
I suggest that if you feel that you are like that, you may visit some professionals to help you.
This is a must do but if you do not become aware that you are becoming a compulsive gambler then it really is difficult because you might deny that you are having gambling problems which creates a barrier amongst the people that tries to help you so self-awareness is a must and you can never go wrong when you accept that you are having problems. I suggest that if you feel that you are like that, you may visit some professionals to help you.
Do you mean the problem of separation from society? This problem concerns not only gambling - many online gamers or some other games become fanatics of this activity and forget about everything else. I heard in China there were cases when players died right in the gaming clubs due to the fact that they forgot to eat/sleep.
I'm an online gamer and I felt this. Separation from society.Whenever I go out, I'm comfortable if I'm alone compare to the times where I got some friends if I'm outside. You said that there are cases in China who died because they forgot to eat/sleep. That only means that they are in a gaming addiction and many are experiencing the same thing as they've experienced. Lucky for me, I can control myself whenever and I can manage my time. I know how many hours will I play, go outside, eat and sleep but there are times that I take lesser sleep hours than the usual but I only do it once a week (mostly on Fridays) because of my current work too.
Buddhists would object, 
but I'm no Buddhist, so, yep, I agree with you, there are some good addictions out there, for sure.
but I'm no Buddhist, so, yep, I agree with you, there are some good addictions out there, for sure.I actually collect cheaper addictions. They are a good reason to get out of bed in the morning. Gambling (or drugs) are just too costly for my budget no matter how much money i got.
I suggest that if you feel that you are like that, you may visit some professionals to help you
And how's that supposed to work in practice?
As you say yourself, "compulsive gambling is the uncontrollable eagerness on gambling" (personally, I would say urge or obsession, but it doesn't really matter). If you don't listen to your family and your friends anymore, if you don't care about anyone, what on earth is going to make you listen to some advice here (or elsewhere in the Internet, for that matter)? Just curious
Compulsive gambling is a product of addiction. When these kinds of things happens to you then you may have lost yourself and people like that are usually miserable. Such person will need a help from loved ones. , He will need to forget about all his previous to overcome that compulsion because that is the chain of connection between them.
We also have to believe that it is not only about losing, gamblers who are addictive also have some trouble stopping even though they are already winning big, that's the reason why most of the time they end up losing even if they have a good start.
Do you mean the problem of separation from society? This problem concerns not only gambling - many online gamers or some other games become fanatics of this activity and forget about everything else. I heard in China there were cases when players died right in the gaming clubs due to the fact that they forgot to eat/sleep.
Rehabilitation can cure compulsiveness or if he/she experienced great loss, that is the perfect time healing arrives.
She/he then recognize family members and friends to help him through addiction.
Rehabilitation will just happen if the gambler is willing to rehabilitate himself and his family are willing to help him.She/he then recognize family members and friends to help him through addiction.
Aside from that, it will be hard for the gambler to rehabilitate especially if he still has lot of money because an addicted gambler will gamble every cent of money that he has and if he loses, he will find a way to get some money that will be used in gambling.
Changing is not impossible.
Changing is not impossible but it is hard to do especially if you are addicted into gambling.It is easy to say since we are not in their positions but if we try to think their current positions right now, I know that it is hard for them to change since they've already addicted into it. Changing a person isn't impossible but it is hard that it is "almost" impossible.
Well, I agree that being a compulsive gambler needs a guidance from professionals. Once you start playing gamble and get addicted, it is hard to get out because your mindset will become "I need to make my loss back" and you will keep on playing. Don't just destroy your life because of gambling, have your priorities. There are many way to kill some time.
We also have to believe that it is not only about losing, gamblers who are addictive also have some trouble stopping even though they are already winning big, that's the reason why most of the time they end up losing even if they have a good start. 
There are so many gamblers in this virtual world. Some can still control themselves, and there are also who can not control themselves when they are already in the form of the long table with a full of card any bet of different gamblers, and those are considered as Compulsive gambling.
First things first, compulsive gambling is the uncontrollable eagerness on gambling, even though you keep on losing the game, you forgot to do some valuable things than gambling and forgetting to spend your spare time with your family and in a way that you don't mind how much money you spend and how much money you already to the game.
There are times that whenever your family and your friend advise to you about stopping on gamble, you keep on ignoring them, you do not listen to them anymore even though they care so much to you and when you deny them then you may consider yourself having a compulsive gambling disorder, you don't care anymore to anyone, the only thing you want is gambling.
I suggest that if you feel that you are like that, you may visit some professionals to help you.
First things first, compulsive gambling is the uncontrollable eagerness on gambling, even though you keep on losing the game, you forgot to do some valuable things than gambling and forgetting to spend your spare time with your family and in a way that you don't mind how much money you spend and how much money you already to the game.
There are times that whenever your family and your friend advise to you about stopping on gamble, you keep on ignoring them, you do not listen to them anymore even though they care so much to you and when you deny them then you may consider yourself having a compulsive gambling disorder, you don't care anymore to anyone, the only thing you want is gambling.
I suggest that if you feel that you are like that, you may visit some professionals to help you.
Well, I agree that being a compulsive gambler needs a guidance from professionals. Once you start playing gamble and get addicted, it is hard to get out because your mindset will become "I need to make my loss back" and you will keep on playing. Don't just destroy your life because of gambling, have your priorities. There are many way to kill some time.
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It's normal it's our defense mechanism for telling that where fine even though we are not it's a defense mechanis for us so that we will not criticized by anyone who doesn't understand our situation but sometimes it's the pride keep pushing us to feel ok. And if this is not really healthy we should seek for help so that our family could bring us to a professionals so that we can overcome our addiction.
If we still quiet without saying to other people, we will not get help from them because they don't know what is wrong with us. But no matter what, they will finally know, and we can be at a point that we cannot do anything except asking for help from them. Perhaps, they can ask us to go to a professional to overcome the addiction, or they can talk about the problem so they can try to find the solution. Trust me that will work if you can open yourself and start to talk heart to heart.
Again, we return to the main problem of gambling, which is whether you are harming anyone from your environment and yourself, including or not.
Indeed, if you are able to control your impulses at the moment when they go too far, then we can assume that you have enough strength and stamina to withstand the emotional stress that falls on you during a loss during games.
If not, then everyone for himself must consciously understand how gambling affects his life.
Indeed, if you are able to control your impulses at the moment when they go too far, then we can assume that you have enough strength and stamina to withstand the emotional stress that falls on you during a loss during games.
If not, then everyone for himself must consciously understand how gambling affects his life.
Changing is not impossible.
Changing s always a choice we have.Changes can easily be done specially for things that are only causing bad things in our life just like gambling. If we really love ourselves and people around us who care for us we can easily go away in excessive gambling and do things that will benefit you and other people around you.
you said benefits , gambling has benefits too . it gives fun and money that can make you happy and others too but too much gambling is not healthy anymore and will always lead to being busted . change is not a choice that we look for if we are on the addicted state but instead we will keep playing and playing even if we know that we are not already normal . this is a scary state once you are on it . we need to be more spiritual and ask help for god , this is what i do before and luckily i slowly recovered .
Changing is not impossible.
Changing s always a choice we have.Changes can easily be done specially for things that are only causing bad things in our life just like gambling. If we really love ourselves and people around us who care for us we can easily go away in excessive gambling and do things that will benefit you and other people around you.
Rehabilitation can cure compulsiveness or if he/she experienced great loss, that is the perfect time healing arrives.
She/he then recognize family members and friends to help him through addiction.
She/he then recognize family members and friends to help him through addiction.
I'm no buddhist either (just curious) but I don't think they can get rid of all possible addictions. If anything, their addiction would be to feel like they have no addiction since you can't transcend without being addicted to transcendence, right? Really, why would you if you didn't? Regardless, such a person would be of great interest to a psychiatrist
There are people who are not addicted to anything, but indeed they are asocial, as you said, and, in some cases, suicidal even. They don't have a passion to do something, and life becomes meaningless for them, and that's hardly a good thing
They can always try gambling, a cure for all types of boredom and apathy
Then, can we conclude that addicted gamblers are in better position than those indifferent people, because, when cured, former addicts can apply saved energy and passion to doing something healthy and productive?
Well, that depends on a lot of details
Which can be quite complicated and convoluted. More specifically, we don't know who these addicted gamblers were before they embarked on their gambling journey. Maybe they were exactly those indifferent people who had got bored to death and took to gambling as a last-ditch recourse and a shortcut to get some thrill out of their dull lives
But in general I agree with you. Becoming addicted for these "indifferent" people is a telltale sign that their boredom and indifference is in fact quite self-inflicted for doing something wrong in and with their lives, or rather for not doing the right thing, healthy and productive, which would be there instead of gambling and provide as much thrill and excitement
~ Really, if you are truly addicted to something (say, your wifie or hubby, or whatever), but it is beneficial to you and those around you, would you even call it an addiction?
Buddhists would object,
but I'm no Buddhist, so, yep, I agree with you, there are some good addictions out there, for sureBut that's definitely not all
It is totally fine to feel certain inclinations and propensities which may develop into what we would call a form of addiction. I think you would be a sort of robot if you didn't, but then it would definitely be a mental disorder. I don't know if DSM-5 mentions anything to that effect, but this human being would be completely asocial
I'm no buddhist either (just curious) but I don't think they can get rid of all possible addictions. If anything, their addiction would be to feel like they have no addiction since you can't transcend without being addicted to transcendence, right? Really, why would you if you didn't? Regardless, such a person would be of great interest to a psychiatrist
There are people who are not addicted to anything, but indeed they are asocial, as you said, and, in some cases, suicidal even. They don't have a passion to do something, and life becomes meaningless for them, and that's hardly a good thing.
Then, can we conclude that addicted gamblers are in better position than those indifferent people, because, when cured, former addicts can apply saved energy and passion to doing something healthy and productive?
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