About Compulsive gambling. - page 6.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on February 25, 2020, 05:48:47 PM

I think, before seeking any professional help, you can do some personal contemplation on things. You need to assess yourself the situations why you are having this compulsive gambling, list all the items that trigger this situation. Because you alone, will know the answers. And if you really do want to change and address your being compulsive, think of solutions that will address the items listed on what trigger your compulsive gambling. It will require a real motivation on your side to solve your problem.

I am afraid that in those situations, he cannot do personal contemplation because what is in his mind will be gambling. He needs to share what he thinks to other people so they can help him to find a way to solve the problem. If we felt that we could not do it by ourselves, then we really need to be supported by other people. But some people can do by themselves, and they can get the answer, and start to change themselves.

We can get the motivation from ourselves or other people, and the solution will come if you have a big effort to solve the problem. I am sure that we can have motivation from ourselves and we can also get the motivation from other people around us.

You have good points presented on this one.
Sometimes, you need other people to see what's going on with yourself.
But only those that really do know you or care for you like close friends or family.
Because sometimes you are not seeing clearly at things when you are in that behavior.
And for them, they will sincerely give you advise on what they are seeing whenever you are in that situation.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on February 25, 2020, 05:48:47 PM

I think, before seeking any professional help, you can do some personal contemplation on things. You need to assess yourself the situations why you are having this compulsive gambling, list all the items that trigger this situation. Because you alone, will know the answers. And if you really do want to change and address your being compulsive, think of solutions that will address the items listed on what trigger your compulsive gambling. It will require a real motivation on your side to solve your problem.

I am afraid that in those situations, he cannot do personal contemplation because what is in his mind will be gambling. He needs to share what he thinks to other people so they can help him to find a way to solve the problem. If we felt that we could not do it by ourselves, then we really need to be supported by other people. But some people can do by themselves, and they can get the answer, and start to change themselves.

We can get the motivation from ourselves or other people, and the solution will come if you have a big effort to solve the problem. I am sure that we can have motivation from ourselves and we can also get the motivation from other people around us.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on February 25, 2020, 05:48:47 PM

And if you really do want to change and address your being compulsive, think of solutions that will address the items listed on what trigger your compulsive gambling. It will require a real motivation on your side to solve your problem.

Yup! If reaching our dreams in life requires motivation then what more for figting a steong addiction. So for those who are currently having such kind of addicction or even those who are broke, try to seek it from your family, friends and last but definitely not the least God

. You can find inner peace through Him and every problem that we face had solutions if you will let Him enter your life and follow his guidance. Don't tell me you can't do it? Yes you can, even if you don't believe at first then still try. "Fake it until you make it" like others said, and I'm sure that you will soon realize how His blessings remove the feel of emptiness in you witjout even knowing at the beginning.

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Quote from: Latviand on February 25, 2020, 02:35:29 PM

Compulsive gambling is an irresistable desire of playing without being conscious of the reason why are you doing such thing. Many gamblers would relate to this and what's worse is that, it could drive them to addiction in gambling. There are gamblers who are still playing despite of losing yesterday perhaps, then having regrets at the end of the day why have they still played. If you are looking for a way to avoid this, professional help would be a good thing. I am not pro at this but I would suggest trying other things.

Compulsive gambling would more likely consume most of your time playing so maybe, if you would have an alternative thing to do that could rrplace the time you are spending in gambling, compulsion would be lessen. But still if this condition is already consuming you, I would suggest seeking for a professional to correctly hadle the situation.

I think, before seeking any professional help, you can do some personal contemplation on things. You need to assess yourself the situations why you are having this compulsive gambling, list all the items that trigger this situation. Because you alone, will know the answers. And if you really do want to change and address your being compulsive, think of solutions that will address the items listed on what trigger your compulsive gambling. It will require a real motivation on your side to solve your problem.

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Quote from: KrisAlex18 on February 21, 2020, 12:27:38 PM

There are so many gamblers in this virtual world. Some can still control themselves, and there are also who can not control themselves when they are already in the form of the long table with a full of card any bet of different gamblers, and those are considered as Compulsive gambling.

First things first, compulsive gambling is the uncontrollable eagerness on gambling, even though you keep on losing the game, you forgot to do some valuable things than gambling and forgetting to spend your spare time with your family and in a way that you don't mind how much money you spend and how much money you already to the game.

There are times that whenever your family and your friend advise to you about stopping on gamble, you keep on ignoring them, you do not listen to them anymore even though they care so much to you and when you deny them then you may consider yourself having a compulsive gambling disorder, you don't care anymore to anyone, the only thing you want is gambling.
I suggest that if you feel that you are like that, you may visit some professionals to help you.

I'm not sure it's enough for qualifying someone as a compulsive gambler. Because it's the same for most hobbies, when you like doing something it's a normal thing to spend your spare-time on it. Many people are spending there free time behind the TV or non educating books. I don't think it's better. If you just waste your time but not your money, I don't think you can be considered as a compulsive gambler.

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Compulsive gambling is an irresistable desire of playing without being conscious of the reason why are you doing such thing. Many gamblers would relate to this and what's worse is that, it could drive them to addiction in gambling. There are gamblers who are still playing despite of losing yesterday perhaps, then having regrets at the end of the day why have they still played. If you are looking for a way to avoid this, professional help would be a good thing. I am not pro at this but I would suggest trying other things.

Compulsive gambling would more likely consume most of your time playing so maybe, if you would have an alternative thing to do that could rrplace the time you are spending in gambling, compulsion would be lessen. But still if this condition is already consuming you, I would suggest seeking for a professional to correctly hadle the situation.

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Quote from: KrisAlex18 on February 25, 2020, 12:03:26 AM

the only thing that gamblers should avoid is to be addicted on it, because if you become like that, then you won't realize that you will forget to do some valuable things, you will only focus on winning the game even it is so hard for you to win the game

It will seem like addicted gamblers are focusing ONLY on winning in gambling but in reality they could not focus on anything which includes all the responsibilities and failing with basic level of performance in gambling. This is the reason they need to gamble more to recover losses and to stand like how they are gambling initially. When they gamble more, they will get severely addicted. It is a recursive reaction but leading to self-destroying

Quote from: KrisAlex18 on February 25, 2020, 12:03:26 AM

there are times that you will go to borrow money on your friends to play and if you still keep losing the game, you will lend again, until you will have a deep debt on someone and that is so bad about those compulsive gamblers

If you notice all these problems are coming only because of gambling for more hours. When gamblers are taking periodic breaks they will avoid these compulsive gambling problems and also they can save their life getting collapsed due to their gambling addiction.

In my opinion, borrowing money for gambling must be a suicidal. When there will be zero possibility to save our bankroll, I'm not sure what assures them to go for borrowing even they have failed for 1000 times with their gambling skills.

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Quote from: KrisAlex18 on February 21, 2020, 12:27:38 PM

I suggest that if you feel that you are like that, you may visit some professionals to help you.

No one will visit professional to get help, specially after get lost. Real gambler will come back again with money and new strategy to get revenge.

That explains why they need it the most (professional help), because they are sick. Getting back in gambling after a lose will never change anything in a positive way, hence, it will make just things worst than ever, but that can't be help, since most of the gamblers are hotheaded so they always deal things with anger or madness. Convincing them to go out and see a therapist would be a hard thing to suggest to them, because trust me, they won't even bulge.

Common things that happens always is they wait until they completely destroy themselves for them to seek some help, which is either too late or the other way it is.

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so based on what i read , compulsive gambling is like becoming addictive to gambling ? that is bad already if you are on your own addictive state because you feel your alone . you dont listen to any people including on your parents. before we end up here , we should realize asap about the effects of exescive gambling so that we can stop before its too late. before i was going to be really addictive to gambling but thankfully i overcome it already because i think of my self and my family

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Quote from: lienfaye on February 25, 2020, 05:21:28 AM

In this case professional help is needed because a compulsive gambler wont listen to anyone surrounds him. Seeing your loved ones ended up to be a gambler with this kind of behavior is painful. So if you are a gambler with no control better to stop playing, if you became addicted it will be hard to overcome the addiction and its not just about the money you spend in gambling because your physical and mental health are affected as well.

Help (forced) from third parties is very problematic. As you correctly noted, the player does not recognize his dependence on gambling and does not see a problem. In order to limit his right to dispose of his time and money, there must be a legitimate serious reason. Maybe it should be a medical opinion of a psychiatrist and a court decision based on it.

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Quote from: Betwrong on February 25, 2020, 05:43:33 AM

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Kidding aside, it is only at the first stage that addicts refuse to accept their mental "disorder". At more advanced stages, say, junkies or alcoholics are already fully aware of their destructive behavior, that they are hurting themselves as well as their friends and family. But by then it may already be too late as the disorder has progressed too far

There are no such things as "too late" in this field

But I totally agree with you

As this is what I'm constantly telling people around here myself. That gambling is not the same as drugs (like narcotics and antidepressants) or alcohol. Unlike these addictions, gambling doesn't make irreparable and irreversible changes to the brain apart from what had already been there before this dependence fully developed

Put differently, we wouldn't even call gambling an addiction but for the negative effects and consequences of it, which are entirely external (money lost, families ruined, etc). Really, if you are truly addicted to something (say, your wifie or hubby, or whatever), but it is beneficial to you and those around you, would you even call it an addiction?

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Quote from: Betwrong on February 25, 2020, 05:43:33 AM

There are no such things as "too late" in this field. I personally know a compulsive gambler who was successfully cured from his addiction 3 years ago. And, although I can't say that he has been living happily ever after, at least he's not a gambling addict any more. That's why those therapists are called professionals, they know the right words, and also the right time when to say those words, so that it was effective. In most cases friends and family members do it the wrong way round, and thus it's not helpful at all.

These are all case to case things and there cannot be any generalized one common thing across all gamblers. But, addiction is known for its cruelty over its age. So, the earlier detection and treatment may solve the problem quicker. Compulsive gambling is a psychological disorder and any gambler will be vulnerable to it. But, proper guidelines will help gamblers to stay without affected by those disorder.

I believe this type of discussion will help gambler to realize what they actually doing while gambling and what needs to be done and what needs to be avoided to stay protected.

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Quote from: lienfaye on February 25, 2020, 05:21:28 AM

In this case professional help is needed because a compulsive gambler wont listen to anyone surrounds him. Seeing your loved ones ended up to be a gambler with this kind of behavior is painful. So if you are a gambler with no control better to stop playing, if you became addicted it will be hard to overcome the addiction and its not just about the money you spend in gambling because your physical and mental health are affected as well.

The most affected person is the one's who loved us and I know it is hard to cure this kind of illness,
Because most of the time the gambler itself doesn't consider him/herself as compulsive gambler and doesn't know that it is already destroying their life.
Their love one's are just around them suffering while they are ignoring it and having fun gambling.

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This is a serious matter, there are a lot of people in the media industry that have become very popular in Televisions and film but, have become poor and lost their career because of gambling. Compulsive disorder can't be stop by only some random person but with have academic degree in psychology. Before its too late, we should help the people who have this disorder, especially those that is our relative or close to ours. I think this kind of disorder is only developed when someone is going through severe setbacks in life and stress that makes their gambling a stress relieving action that might be in return become habitual.

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Quote from: KrisAlex18 on February 21, 2020, 12:27:38 PM

I suggest that if you feel that you are like that, you may visit some professionals to help you.

Did you know that the first sign of gambling addiction is that you refused to acknowledge it

I understand what you want to convey here

But it could be misinterpreted in the following way. If you are a gambler, though not necessarily a compulsive, or disoriented (as the American Association of Psychos puts it), gambler, and you refuse to acknowledge your gambling addiction, you are a gambling addict then

Kidding aside, it is only at the first stage that addicts refuse to accept their mental "disorder". At more advanced stages, say, junkies or alcoholics are already fully aware of their destructive behavior, that they are hurting themselves as well as their friends and family. But by then it may already be too late as the disorder has progressed too far

There are no such things as "too late" in this field. I personally know a compulsive gambler who was successfully cured from his addiction 3 years ago. And, although I can't say that he has been living happily ever after, at least he's not a gambling addict any more. That's why those therapists are called professionals, they know the right words, and also the right time when to say those words, so that it was effective. In most cases friends and family members do it the wrong way round, and thus it's not helpful at all.

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In this case professional help is needed because a compulsive gambler wont listen to anyone surrounds him. Seeing your loved ones ended up to be a gambler with this kind of behavior is painful. So if you are a gambler with no control better to stop playing, if you became addicted it will be hard to overcome the addiction and its not just about the money you spend in gambling because your physical and mental health are affected as well.

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If it is already affecting your personal lives, family and friends. Then it is not healthy anymore. I, myself always reflecting. When addiction is hitting my system I intentionally giving myself some space from gambling. Every time I tend to lose huge, it affect all and do some impulsive things that I don't want to do. You see, if you are a compulsive gambler and there are bad things that is happening, better to leave gambling. Like what I am doing right now.

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Avoiding gambling once you get hooked to it is easier said than done. They don't have control over it, they will only realize there is something wrong with them once everything is ruined. That is why if ever you can still limit your self or best if you can stay away from gambling you should avoid it as soon as possible to avoid having a serious gambling problem. It is still advisable to have different hobbies to keep you away from getting addicted to something. Seeking a professional's help when it is already late will not do you any good. Prevention is always better than cure.

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Quote from: Yatsan on February 21, 2020, 01:47:08 PM

I guess this is the worst thing to lose in gambling, not only the money you are gambling with but the mental health of an individual. Uncontrallable gambling, gambling disorder , compulsive gambling or what any it called is the craziest thing to lose on this virtual world. Just imagine losing your mind because you desire to earn more out of playing games. The OP suggested to seek help the professionals, but how? if these people are eaten by compulsive gambling, I think they won't let themselve lose the side of them being a gambler wouldn't they?

This is the very reason why I still go out with some people. I don't want to bore myself in front of the computer, gambling and risking all I have digitally. I would recommend spending time with your family and friends to avoid being stuck on a situation like compulsive gambling. It is just a game of chance, don't forget yourseld. Health is wealth!

Indeed, the only thing that gamblers should avoid is to be addicted on it, because if you become like that, then you won't realize that you will forget to do some valuable things, you will only focus on winning the game even it is so hard for you to win the game, there are times that you will go to borrow money on your friends to play and if you still keep losing the game, you will lend again, until you will have a deep debt on someone and that is so bad about those compulsive gamblers, they let their properties losing because of their addiction on gambling.

Good for you mate, you won't let yourself to become a compulsive gambler, and the best thing you do to prevent that is you focus on your family and friends, well that is more joyful than winning the game in any gambling sites. The real happiness comes from your beloved ones.

Having a compulsive gambling is a disorder that need a help because they cannot control their self to keep gambling despite risk to their life and even to their money. Many people become addicted because of gambling that's why we need to have goal and have discipline to avoid all th risk in gambling.

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Quote from: Yatsan on February 21, 2020, 01:47:08 PM

I guess this is the worst thing to lose in gambling, not only the money you are gambling with but the mental health of an individual. Uncontrallable gambling, gambling disorder , compulsive gambling or what any it called is the craziest thing to lose on this virtual world. Just imagine losing your mind because you desire to earn more out of playing games. The OP suggested to seek help the professionals, but how? if these people are eaten by compulsive gambling, I think they won't let themselve lose the side of them being a gambler wouldn't they?

This is the very reason why I still go out with some people. I don't want to bore myself in front of the computer, gambling and risking all I have digitally. I would recommend spending time with your family and friends to avoid being stuck on a situation like compulsive gambling. It is just a game of chance, don't forget yourseld. Health is wealth!

Indeed, the only thing that gamblers should avoid is to be addicted on it, because if you become like that, then you won't realize that you will forget to do some valuable things, you will only focus on winning the game even it is so hard for you to win the game, there are times that you will go to borrow money on your friends to play and if you still keep losing the game, you will lend again, until you will have a deep debt on someone and that is so bad about those compulsive gamblers, they let their properties losing because of their addiction on gambling.

Good for you mate, you won't let yourself to become a compulsive gambler, and the best thing you do to prevent that is you focus on your family and friends, well that is more joyful than winning the game in any gambling sites. The real happiness comes from your beloved ones.

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