About Compulsive gambling. - page 5.

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Quote from: lienfaye on February 25, 2020, 04:21:28 AM

In this case professional help is needed because a compulsive gambler wont listen to anyone surrounds him. Seeing your loved ones ended up to be a gambler with this kind of behavior is painful. So if you are a gambler with no control better to stop playing, if you became addicted it will be hard to overcome the addiction and its not just about the money you spend in gambling because your physical and mental health are affected as well.

Indeed a very effective way to stop gambling is to seek a legal advise because its not easy to stop and if you’re already addict its hard for you to let go gambling. Compulsive gambling is not healthy because sometimes you play beyond your capacity and most of the gambler borrow money just to keep playing. If you cannot control yourself then you really need someone to help you.

sorry mate but what about "Legal Advice"? if gambling is not illegal in your country i see no reason or connection for asking about Legalities?because no one can bring you to jail just because you are a gambler ,until you make action that against the law.
but right No to Compulsive gambling.

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Quote from: maydna on February 26, 2020, 08:41:52 PM

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I am afraid that in those situations, he cannot do personal contemplation because what is in his mind will be gambling. He needs to share what he thinks to other people so they can help him to find a way to solve the problem. If we felt that we could not do it by ourselves, then we really need to be supported by other people. But some people can do by themselves, and they can get the answer, and start to change themselves.

We can get the motivation from ourselves or other people, and the solution will come if you have a big effort to solve the problem. I am sure that we can have motivation from ourselves and we can also get the motivation from other people around us.

You have good points presented on this one.
Sometimes, you need other people to see what's going on with yourself.
But only those that really do know you or care for you like close friends or family.
Because sometimes you are not seeing clearly at things when you are in that behavior.
And for them, they will sincerely give you advise on what they are seeing whenever you are in that situation.

I am sure if someone really knows us or care for us will see something wrong happen with us, so they will ask us what is going on. But sometimes, we don't admit, and we pretend that everything is fine and nothing wrong with us. At this moment, we need to open ourselves to them and tell them what is happen so they can try to help us solve the problem. Other people can see a different way to solve our problem, so sometimes, their suggestion will look better to apply.

It's normal it's our defense mechanism for telling that where fine even though we are not it's a defense mechanis for us so that we will not criticized by anyone who doesn't understand our situation but sometimes it's the pride keep pushing us to feel ok. And if this is not really healthy we should seek for help so that our family could bring us to a professionals so that we can overcome our addiction.

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Quote from: ampere on February 26, 2020, 05:48:23 PM

When you say compulsive gambling, i think this is stronger than even addiction.
Because when someone has compulsive gambling, they cannot do without gambling in a day
Lets all gamble responsibly please, avoid addiction or mind compulsion to gamble.

Depends on the level of addiction like everything else in the whole world. If you think it is beneficial to everyone around you that is not a high level addiction. Just take this example let's say, you are "addicted" to your spouse and normally that sounds cute, like you can't live without them and you love them and you cherish every moment with them and so forth, that sounds nice and that is actually cool and I hope that for everyone.

However, if it breaks to a point of addiction in the sense that you are obsessed about them, jealous of them, and basically ruin their and your own life for being too addicted to them, you could actually hurt people around you. There is a level of addiction in everything in life including gambling where low level of it is decent but too much of it will hurt.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on February 25, 2020, 11:24:36 PM

Quote from: maydna on February 25, 2020, 10:19:26 PM

I am afraid that in those situations, he cannot do personal contemplation because what is in his mind will be gambling. He needs to share what he thinks to other people so they can help him to find a way to solve the problem. If we felt that we could not do it by ourselves, then we really need to be supported by other people. But some people can do by themselves, and they can get the answer, and start to change themselves.

We can get the motivation from ourselves or other people, and the solution will come if you have a big effort to solve the problem. I am sure that we can have motivation from ourselves and we can also get the motivation from other people around us.

You have good points presented on this one.
Sometimes, you need other people to see what's going on with yourself.
But only those that really do know you or care for you like close friends or family.
Because sometimes you are not seeing clearly at things when you are in that behavior.
And for them, they will sincerely give you advise on what they are seeing whenever you are in that situation.

I am sure if someone really knows us or care for us will see something wrong happen with us, so they will ask us what is going on. But sometimes, we don't admit, and we pretend that everything is fine and nothing wrong with us. At this moment, we need to open ourselves to them and tell them what is happen so they can try to help us solve the problem. Other people can see a different way to solve our problem, so sometimes, their suggestion will look better to apply.

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Quote from: lienfaye on February 25, 2020, 04:21:28 AM

In this case professional help is needed because a compulsive gambler wont listen to anyone surrounds him. Seeing your loved ones ended up to be a gambler with this kind of behavior is painful. So if you are a gambler with no control better to stop playing, if you became addicted it will be hard to overcome the addiction and its not just about the money you spend in gambling because your physical and mental health are affected as well.

Indeed a very effective way to stop gambling is to seek a legal advise because its not easy to stop and if you’re already addict its hard for you to let go gambling. Compulsive gambling is not healthy because sometimes you play beyond your capacity and most of the gambler borrow money just to keep playing. If you cannot control yourself then you really need someone to help you.

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Quote from: akram143 on February 26, 2020, 05:32:55 PM

Quote from: KrisAlex18 on February 21, 2020, 11:27:38 AM

I suggest that if you feel that you are like that, you may visit some professionals to help you.

When they don't even realize that they are in need of gambling more than anything then how it is possible for the to seek help from professionals on this? If someone get into a stage as you mentioned then bankrupt can only stop them from continuing until that they will ignore anyone who says stop gambling which is bad for you.

There are other person who came to the point that they got bankrupt before they realize that they got addicted on gambling but there are people who starting to get used playing and they are been advise by their family to get rehabilitate so that they can recover their life outside from it, although I'm first they insist but later on if their family pursue to convince them to do the right thing then chances for those who are in the point of being addict of the game will get cured.

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When you say compulsive gambling, i think this is stronger than even addiction.
Because when someone has compulsive gambling, they cannot do without gambling in a day
Lets all gamble responsibly please, avoid addiction or mind compulsion to gamble.

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Quote from: KrisAlex18 on February 21, 2020, 11:27:38 AM

I suggest that if you feel that you are like that, you may visit some professionals to help you.

When they don't even realize that they are in need of gambling more than anything then how it is possible for the to seek help from professionals on this? If someone get into a stage as you mentioned then bankrupt can only stop them from continuing until that they will ignore anyone who says stop gambling which is bad for you.

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I think, before seeking any professional help, you can do some personal contemplation on things. You need to assess yourself the situations why you are having this compulsive gambling, list all the items that trigger this situation. Because you alone, will know the answers. And if you really do want to change and address your being compulsive, think of solutions that will address the items listed on what trigger your compulsive gambling. It will require a real motivation on your side to solve your problem.

I am afraid that in those situations, he cannot do personal contemplation because what is in his mind will be gambling. He needs to share what he thinks to other people so they can help him to find a way to solve the problem. If we felt that we could not do it by ourselves, then we really need to be supported by other people. But some people can do by themselves, and they can get the answer, and start to change themselves.

We can get the motivation from ourselves or other people, and the solution will come if you have a big effort to solve the problem. I am sure that we can have motivation from ourselves and we can also get the motivation from other people around us.

You have good points presented on this one.
Sometimes, you need other people to see what's going on with yourself.
But only those that really do know you or care for you like close friends or family.
Because sometimes you are not seeing clearly at things when you are in that behavior.
And for them, they will sincerely give you advise on what they are seeing whenever you are in that situation.

Advises coming from relatives is merely giving us inspiration, and it do provide us better lives because it's very important take those brilliant ideas coming from love ones. What they've seen from your end reflects on your status in life. It can't be denied in a long process, and every situation of yours will always be determined even if you're hiding or making it private. Gambling affects lives without and won't be noticed unless your family reminds you about your current situation.

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To the people claiming there is a relationship between low IQ and compulsive gambling, I would beg to differ.

At least in the field of gambling I come from (Poker), the most intelligent individuals and the ones with the highest social awareness actually tend to perform the best.

An extremely high IQ individual with great perception can absolutely kill it in poker. Meanwhile the idiots typically get felted quickly. No doubt both the intelligent and the idiots have an equal predisposition to addiction, but the high IQ guys perform better with it.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 26, 2020, 11:39:31 AM

Quote from: Genemind on February 26, 2020, 05:03:25 AM

For us to get rid of gambling addiction, we have to keep in mind that there are lots of risks that we will be facing if we'll not control our emotions towards it. Being greedy could also bring us into a situation that we might regret in the future. Everything will rely on how we handle things. In gambling, we have to control our emotions or else it will be the one who will control us. To get rid of gambling addiction, we have to discipline ourselves and we should also know our limits.

These are obvious tips, but they are just as obvious as they are difficult to apply. Smart people understand this and do not fall into such an addiction, but those people who are less intelligent cannot realize this and gambling turns their life into something terrible. How to help them?

Intelligent people might really have that edge when it comes to those decision making but it isnt really necessary when it comes to self-awareness.

It really doesnt need intellect nor IQ for you to realize things on whats happening around you.A simple cause and result minding will really be enough
for making decisions that would be appropriate.Humans can make decisions naturally but all things will vary on how a person will foresee the effects
ahead.

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Quote from: Betwrong on February 26, 2020, 04:09:49 AM

Quote from: deisik on February 25, 2020, 05:31:21 AM

~ Really, if you are truly addicted to something (say, your wifie or hubby, or whatever), but it is beneficial to you and those around you, would you even call it an addiction?

Buddhists would object,

but I'm no Buddhist, so, yep, I agree with you, there are some good addictions out there, for sure

But that's definitely not all

It is totally fine to feel certain inclinations and propensities which may develop into what we would call a form of addiction. I think you would be a sort of robot if you didn't, but then it would definitely be a mental disorder. I don't know if DSM-5 mentions anything to that effect, but this human being would be completely asocial

I'm no buddhist either (just curious) but I don't think they can get rid of all possible addictions. If anything, their addiction would be to feel like they have no addiction since you can't transcend without being addicted to transcendence, right? Really, why would you if you didn't? Regardless, such a person would be of great interest to a psychiatrist

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Quote from: KrisAlex18 on February 21, 2020, 11:27:38 AM

I suggest that if you feel that you are like that, you may visit some professionals to help you

And how's that supposed to work in practice?

As you say yourself, "compulsive gambling is the uncontrollable eagerness on gambling" (personally, I would say urge or obsession, but it doesn't really matter). If you don't listen to your family and your friends anymore, if you don't care about anyone, what on earth is going to make you listen to some advice here (or elsewhere in the Internet, for that matter)? Just curious

True that, exactly what I wanted to ask the OP. As soon as you know that you are addicted a huge (and the most important imo) milestone is achieved because you are automatically open for getting (professional) help.
As long as you deny that you are addicted no one gets close enough to help you out of the addiction. You always have to take the first step by yourself.

Well said, and that is the reason for you to visit some professionals if even the closest persons in your life won't do anything to make you stop gambling if their lessons for you won't keep on your mind if there advise to you won't work. Still, you really want to change your lifestyle, you want to limit yourself from gambling, then you should make an action, if changing your thinking won't work, or if you change your priority in life and focus on your family and friend but still doesn't work then I recommend that you should go to some professionals about mental health, you can consult on some psychiatrist, sot they will be able to give you a piece of advise and some good drugs. They are professionals they graduated their degree, so I believe that they know what to do in those cases.

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I think I can pass as a compulsive gambler based on your description, After some regrets and realization, I got decided to reduce my activity and start changing myself. I've been a gambling addict for years and wasting countless money on my addictiveness. Friends and foes tried to change me before but I can't stop being the same, It's hard to get rid of being a compulsive gambler but it is possible. Try slowing down the activities and putting a limitation on yourself. It's almost a year since I start to change and it brings a significant change to my life. I also didn't seek professional help for my addiction. Just some deep realization I was able to change.

Changing is not impossible.

Not many people can do what you have done. Unfortunately most people do now know how to bring the change and how to quit the gambling. They just found themselves trapped by gambling and found no way to get out of it.

Indeed, we are all different, so basically we cannot do some things that others can do; we all have different ways to fix our problem. Still, if your strategy to fix the problem won't work, you can follow others advise or others technique on fixing the problem, there is no problem on that especially if that is a good thing.

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Quote from: Genemind on February 26, 2020, 05:03:25 AM

For us to get rid of gambling addiction, we have to keep in mind that there are lots of risks that we will be facing if we'll not control our emotions towards it. Being greedy could also bring us into a situation that we might regret in the future. Everything will rely on how we handle things. In gambling, we have to control our emotions or else it will be the one who will control us. To get rid of gambling addiction, we have to discipline ourselves and we should also know our limits.

These are obvious tips, but they are just as obvious as they are difficult to apply. Smart people understand this and do not fall into such an addiction, but those people who are less intelligent cannot realize this and gambling turns their life into something terrible. How to help them?

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Quote from: Genemind on February 26, 2020, 05:03:25 AM

For us to get rid of gambling addiction, we have to keep in mind that there are lots of risks that we will be facing if we'll not control our emotions towards it.

Unfortunately, gambler don't care about the risks. What do they only care is the money they can get if they win and not thinking of the other side of it. Controlling emotions especially if you are addicted into gambling is hard that you can't do it. If you lose, you will do revenge gambling and if you win you will continue to gamble until you ran out of money.

Quote from: Genemind on February 26, 2020, 05:03:25 AM

Being greedy could also bring us into a situation that we might regret in the future. Everything will rely on how we handle things. In gambling, we have to control our emotions or else it will be the one who will control us. To get rid of gambling addiction, we have to discipline ourselves and we should also know our limits.

As I said, controlling emotions in gambling is hard. If you are not a disciplined person before you start gambling, it will be hard for you to make an adjustment when worse thing happen like losing your money. Knowing the limits is very easy to say but very hard to do. The best thing to do is to just not gamble at all.

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Quote from: Genemind on February 26, 2020, 05:03:25 AM

For us to get rid of gambling addiction, we have to keep in mind that there are lots of risks that we will be facing if we'll not control our emotions towards it.

Stopping the addiction completely will cause a lot of emotional outbursts too. There needs to be a balance between the two so one can slowly stop the addiction but not get health issues due to it.

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Being greedy could also bring us into a situation that we might regret in the future.

They do regret but they cant stop themselves. It is a lack in self control or abolished control. This can be regained with determination to quit or reduce you bad habits.

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Everything will rely on how we handle things. In gambling, we have to control our emotions or else it will be the one who will control us. To get rid of gambling addiction, we have to discipline ourselves and we should also know our limits.

Support from friends and family helps a lot in this regard. They know how to bring the player back to the right track or what is right for them. Again the importance of self control is assessed here. Some friends are able to reinforce the control back to the person.

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Quote from: KrisAlex18 on February 21, 2020, 11:27:38 AM

the only thing you want is gambling.

This is addicted, must avoid what ever it takes. Gambling is complete game, inside it we can see fun, money and prestige, everyone want that to change his life. The reason why people can addicted is not because the glory but gambling have easy method to get win, just deposit, play the game and no longer to see the result. Risk closed by win that could be only dream. The answer is same like other, leave gambling right now and never came back again.

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For us to get rid of gambling addiction, we have to keep in mind that there are lots of risks that we will be facing if we'll not control our emotions towards it. Being greedy could also bring us into a situation that we might regret in the future. Everything will rely on how we handle things. In gambling, we have to control our emotions or else it will be the one who will control us. To get rid of gambling addiction, we have to discipline ourselves and we should also know our limits.

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First thing that you have to know, what your intention to play gambling?

If you just play gambling because there is some of your friend are playing it and you are interested then you will hard to get out for it.

But, I just thinking that gambling is about ourselve. I mean, when your intention to play it because you are curious about it and you think that gambling is something that can be made as an entertainment then you will be easy to leave it.

So, when your intention is like that your control will be easy to manage. Like with situation as you have mentioned, you will leave gambling because you have been losing a lot of money and there is nothinh who will push you to keep play.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on February 25, 2020, 05:14:28 AM

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These are all case to case things and there cannot be any generalized one common thing across all gamblers. ~

It's true that all cases are different. That is so because people are not numbers(or, even if they are, we are far from knowing what numbers exactly), and thus it's impossible to describe them (or their situations) with mathematical equations. So, all general rules are not completely accurate when applied to a particular individual. However, in my opinion, generalization is the next best thing we can do to bring some order into the chaos around us.

Quote from: deisik on February 25, 2020, 05:31:21 AM

~ Really, if you are truly addicted to something (say, your wifie or hubby, or whatever), but it is beneficial to you and those around you, would you even call it an addiction?

Buddhists would object,

but I'm no Buddhist, so, yep, I agree with you, there are some good addictions out there, for sure.

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