Topic: Account farming. Allowed? - page 9. (Read 51838 times)

It would be trust abuse at its finest. There is nothing to be afraid of Wendigo, unless you actually have something to hide.

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The fact that you're threatening Timelord publicly with red trust, doesn't score you any points though.

That could be mighty risky for said account.

I will wait out your investigation. Then I will have someone with a lot of green trust paint you in deep red. For libel.
You aren't getting out of this unscathed  


http://archive.is/qTfdn

Hi @rizzlarolla,

I have a strong feeling that these three UID's:

19 November 2013, 02:47:49 Date Registered: Anixs     u=163265 http://archive.is/QVXgN

19 November 2013, 05:43:15 Date Registered: Wendigo u=163375 http://archive.is/Ds15V

19 November 2013, 19:37:12 Date Registered: WhiteyZ u=163888 http://archive.is/Ql4eY

Are either Alts, or, at the very least are Farmed Accounts ^TM in either case I was wondering if:

Using these three as templates, can you trawl through their post history and compare their posting patterns (ie once per fortnight, same day ie Monday, that sort of thing) and then if their patterns are similar over a period of time, then using that pattern to sweep for other UIDs that are also farmed?

It slipped my mind till just now, if possible, we need to identify the farmers behind some of these high intensity farms.

Case in point:

Operatr: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/operatr-92499

Claims to have purchased "relinquished" a multitude of UIDs that had previously been caught red-handed scamming - well after they had received Red Paint ^TM A while later, I noticed that the UIDs in question still had their negative trust dished out to others.  The trust is right up to the date Operatr has put the message below, while some have been used *after* their message to pain the wall red ie - trust abuse.   When I contacted Operatr I got a terse "They will stay as is" type of response followed by Neutral trust on my wall.

Operatr left this on numerous UIDs:


Operatr has now added Red Pain ^TM to my trust wall (oh woe is me!) and a quick recap of their various Alts shows PHS u=764988 and leancuisine u=143455 giving each other Positive trust (again, trust abuse).

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sunsilk-816896 - Sunsilk (Secondtrade Sig. Campaign)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jossiel-811719 - jossiel (WhyFuture Sig.Campaign)

I'm not sure if the above account is connected to jacee. Because jacee facebook account name is Jossel . Hmmm

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jaceefrost-542742 - jaceefrost (knowned alt of jacee) (Spectro Sig.Campaign)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jacee-512548 - jacee ( CrytoMixer.io)

It looks like rizzlarolla's work is now making the campaign managers aware that the majority of the sig campaigners they have been paying are mostly from account farming. I have already seen some of the signature campaigns being relaunched offering higher pay but with an emphasis on post quality. Spammers are included in a blacklist by the manager to discourage them from joining.

thanks rizzlarola..

I request you to take a look at the spreadsheet of those twitter and facebook bounties from where I got these. you'll surely see some more interesting things. I would submit all but lack of free time. these shit accounts and their spammy PMs already took me 4 hours to collect and tick their screen shots.

Moved over from Known alts - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.1200



ok, as  jamalaezaz has not bothered to come to the farmer thread to enquire about farmed accounts i shall post here.
hope you dopn't mind this once!

i have snipped  jamalaezaz's list down to accounts created on September 12 2016 to simplify my explanation/evidence.
(oh, i have included 1 account created Sept 10, to show connection between days registered!)

i find it usefull to include account names, often gives a further clue. Also easier to familiarise.
total post count included in ( )
(i have put 11 and 10 in u=order)

Already we can see familiar names, even 2 days apart. Badboy[ BTC] and [ BTC]Girl.
Also seems partial to "4", Myra4, Vovka4, Grin4, even Do4a.
Look at the post histoty,

sept 10
9: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/badboybtc-897925 Badboy[ BTC]           sep 10x9, 11, 13x6, 14x4, 20x5, 21x.....

sept 12
11: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/btcgirl-898511 [ BTC]Girl (97)       sep 12,    13x5, 14x4, 17, 18, 20, 21x4, 22x5...
10: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/myra4-898516 Myra4 (63)            sep         13x3, 14x4, 17,            21x4, 22x3....
12: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/do4a-898519 Do4a (47)             sep 12,    13x4, 14x5,                           22x2....  
13: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/vovka4-898526 Vovka4 (9)            sep 12x2, 13x2, 14x5 - end
14: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/toropen-898535 Toropen (17)         sep 12,    13x2, 14x11                                   25x2...
15: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dahonpao-898539 DahonPao (10)      sep 12,    13x2, 14x6                                                  oct 15..
16: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/grin4-898545 Grin4  (8              sep12,     13x2, 14x5 - end
17: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nazarov-898551 Nazarov (9)          sep 12,     13x2, 14x6 - end
18: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/noizebtc-898570 Noizebtc (6)          sep 12,    13x2, 14x2, 18 - end
19: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/garryk-898574 Garryk (6)            sep 12,     13x2,                                                          nov 1..
20: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/prostofilia-898578 prostoFILIA (5)     sep 12,     13x2 ,                                                         nov 12..

Not much to connect as history's are short. some only 5 or 6 posts, but there is a pattern there.
Lets look in more detail. they all post at least twice on sep 13, some more than twice.
Lets see how random they made these posts.

sept 10 registration, (edit, now added 6,7,8, the "tea break 3")
6:   u=897862 BitmarkInvest      13x8,                                                          -     (post1,2,3,4)    12.18,  12.31, 12.39, 12.53
7:   u=897919 Dim4ik                13x4, @ 9.54 am,  and                (post 4)      -    (post 1,2,3)      12.19,  12.28,           12.55
8:   u=897923 Maryshka91         13x2, @ 9.51 am,  and (8.59 am)
9:   u=897925 Badboy[ BTC]      13x6, @ 9.49 am,  and 10.32 am (post 5+6)   -    (post 1,2,3,4)   12.25,  12.34, 12.40, 12.57
sept 12 registration,                                                                              
10: u=898516 [ BTC]Girl            13x5, @ 9.47 am,  and 10.31 am (post 4+5)   -    (post 1,2,3)                 12.33, 12.41, 12.58,
11: u=898511 Myra4                 13x3, @ 9.44 am,  and 10.26 am (post 2+3)   -    (post 1)                       12.37,
12: u=898519 Do4a                  13x4, @ 9.42 am,  and 10.23 am (post 3+4)    -    (post 1,2)                              12.45,   1.01
13: u=898526 Vovka4               13x2, @ 9.39 am,  and 10.21 am
14: u=898535 Toropen              13x2, @ 9.34 am,  and 10.17 am
15: u=898539 DahonPao           13x2, @ 9.32 am,  and 10.15 am
16: u=898545 Grin4                 13x2, @ 9.31 am,  and 10.13 am
17: u=898551 Nazarov             13x2, @ 9.29 am,  and 10.09 am
18: u=898570 Noizebtc             13x2, @ 9.26 am,  and 10.05 am
19: u=898574 Garryk               13x2, @ 9.24 am,  and 10.02 am
20: u=898578 prostoFILIA        13x2, @ 9.21 am,  and 10.00 am

Not random at all. Posting rota for 13th sept started at bottom of list and worked up, even running through accounts created different days.
28 minutes to do the morning post rota, 9.21 - 9.49, quick cup of tea (or actually post  other accounts from 10 sep - edit, now added, leaving only 5 min for tea) then 32 minutes to post all again!
Is that conclusive enough? (answer is yes!)

(i have put a gap in [ BTC]Girl/boy names to stop it displaying as BTCgirl/boy!)

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vvv ok, np.
could you add link to that spreadsheet for ref/ease. i am about to add a couple more of your list, (the posts i said he made during tea break!)
6: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bitmarkinvest-897862  BitmarkInvest (85)
7: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dim4ik-897919  Dim4ik (73)           ...another "4"
8: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/maryshka91-897923  Maryshka91 (77)
check back later - done.

It's allowed as soon as you respect the rules and do not abuse of it. For example, I've got my secondary account both as a backup option in case I'm out somewhere and I have to use a public computer, and as a second earning account. I thought of creating a third account too, but that's starting to be called an abuse which I don't want it to be.

Sorry I have been slow to respond here.
(i am not well versed in the trust system)

Can i suggest waiting/discuss a few more days/a week to see if the "banned" tag is implemented.
Also can we get staff/DT involved, or at least confirm that they do not want to be involved.


Bearing that in mind, is there any point spending time on those, if there really are hundreds of them?
(i am struggling to find evidence of that)

My thoughts on this,

All farmed accounts should be rated the same. If an account has other accusations against it, that should be a separate trust issue.
Trust for "farmed" should never need changing, other trust may.
A standard rating (copy paste) should be used, for ease of application and even handedness and to de-personalise.
A systemic approach must be taken, ie, start at the beginning of the 500+ list, or a month at a time, or "alphabet" lists...
An ad hoc or variable rating approach will be more personal.

Is neutral "red"? (idk) If not, i think it maybe a bit lame, will not show and be ignored?
I would think the minimum red would be the correct trust. (is that -1?)

(1) Originally a farmed account. (2) Farmed means one user creates a lot of accounts and spams the forum to level up.  As such, this account (UID) *may*have* been bought and sold a number of times.  You should do due diligence if considering trading as it may not be with the same person you previously did business with.

1. Once farmed, always farmed.
2. a bit specific, slightly wrong. I told hilarious that was not the case, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16650103

If you add "reasons" they will be individually argued against. (you must have seen how "spam" is not even definable - see Daisy14 thread!)
Maybe just keep it simple. "-1. This account is farmed - ref - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rizzs-500-1670807 "

There are hundreds more accounts to be added to the 500+ list - Russian and Chinese farmed accounts mostly.
(as we are now seeing the first effects of in "know alts" thread and "Wings spammers" thread)
Your accounts will be negged to hell in retaliation? Hence "can we get staff/DT involved, or at least confirm that they do not want to be involved."

I suppose that can be added, now where do we start?  Who gets a liberal dose of paint?

Sounds good to me, and I've added a line to explain why a farmed account is a bad account in the first place.

How does this sound?


Additionally, if there's no scam accusation, trust is Neutral.  If there is a scam accusation, or the account is already in the red, then the above trust gets Red Paint ^TM coating.

It seems to me this is a failed quote from someone who doesn't speak English. The rest of the post history though points at the typical Indonesian spammer and account farmer.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/do-you-live-in-the-uk-then-i-can-make-you-money-1674877




Just spotted that in a thread I was responding in so I decided to throw it in here for a quick reference.

Are you able to peg in GiocareHost u=413135 http://archive.is/ErbZz and or     funkydog u=371308 http://archive.is/drlD8 and their Alt dj6230 u=128222 http://archive.is/MTP1I

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16818583

ajrah is one who verifies GiocareHost staking their BitCoin Wallet Address.

(got new keyboard!)

March 12 2016
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tabas-802441  tabas  (3208)    mar 13x8, 14x13, 16x6, 21x15,        29, 31x...spam city...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/boyptc-802442  boyptc (2918)   mar 13x6, 14x12, 16x6, 21x6, 22x8, 29, 30x... spam city...
                                                                                                                                                                                            
adjoining accounts, first post day after reg, starting within 10 min of each other, making 8 and 6 posts finishing within 5 minutes of each other.
going on to post only once on 29th, within 3 minutes of each other.
i haven't checked, i suspect all the other post sessions are the same.

bought to you by 777coin and bitvest.io
6000 shit posts in 8 months - really?


how about,
March 29 2016
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gohs-813708  Gohs (142)            mar 29, apr 1, 5x4, 9, 14x3, 15, 16, 18x2. 19x4, 20x3, 21x2, 22x4, 30,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/thisappointed-813715  thisappointed (86)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gahs-813718  Gahs (462)            mar 29, apr 1, 5x4, 9, 14x3, 15, 16, 18x2. 19x4, 20x3, 21x2, 22x4, 30,

exactly the same post history, almost the same names!
thisappointed, the one in the middle has exactly the same post history as coynedterm and all those others in march. (see few post above)

Nice finds  hilariousandco

I cant see Adwoif there, so to be sure,


copied by Adwoif,


That is now all 5