Topic: Account farming. Allowed? - page 5. (Read 51937 times)

September 5 2015
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sled-552262  Sled                  sep 6, 16,  oct 12, 26,  dec 7,  jan 4,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nevis-552263  Nevis                sep 6, 16,  oct 12,        dec 7,  jan 4,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lust-552264  Lust                  sep 6, 16,  oct 12, 26,  dec 7,  jan 4,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/finestream-552276  Finestream        sep 5, 16,  oct 12, 25,  dec 7,  jan 4,

September 6 2015
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/doms-552635  Doms                sep 6, 16,  oct 12, 26,  dec 7,  jan 4,

These accounts were created a bit earlier on the same day.

April 13 2015
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cashew-505480  Cashew          apr 30,  may 6, 26,  jun 4x2, 14, 17, 30  jul     20,  aug 18
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/redrose-505481  Redrose                      may 6, 26,  jun 4,          17,       jul 4, 20,  aug 18
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/greentree-505482  Greentree                    may 6, 26,  jun 4,          17,       jul 4, 21,  aug 18

VERY much the same farmer.

(sorry for the edit, corrected)

I don't think i posted these 4 accounts yet? (they are not on my 500+ list)
And at least 1 has been discussed lately, i believe.

April 1 2016
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/johnlocke-816165  johnlocke          apr 1, 21, 27,  may 11,  jun    10,  jul 4
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kateaustin-816168  kateaustin         apr 1, 21, 27,  may 11,  jun    10,  jul 4
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jackshephard-816171  jackshephard     apr 1, 21, 27,  may 11,  jun    10,  jul 4
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jamesford-816173  jamesford          apr 1, 21,       may 11,  jun 1, 10,  jul 4

Hmmm... VERY much the same posing rota as in my post above.  
VERY much the same farmer.


Make that 32 accounts on this posting rota.

4 more accounts registered March 25 2016,

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tonguetides-810722  tonguetides                          mar 25,  apr 18, 27,  may 10, 11,  jun 10, jul 4
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dreamthim-810725  dreamthim                           mar 25,  apr 18, 27,  may 10, 11,  jun 10,  jul 4,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dimmedoutline-810726  dimmedoutline                     mar 25,  apr 18, 27,  may 10, 12,  jun 10,  jul 4,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/romanticks-810733  romanticks   (red trust)        mar 25,  apr 18, 27,  may 10, 12,  jun 10,  jul 4,

(connection to 24 other accounts on the same rota shown here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17839884 )

Well, in either case then the result would only be positive for the community as a whole. It would be best to remove the account farmers and add units of evil to their IPs. This would also affect the account-trading market - the farmed accounts that were sold would also be banned and thus a slew of others would fall as well. Now unfortunately, there is no way to prove that you were sold an account due to the fact that one could simply sign a message indicating a past date for the trading of an account.

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Could it ever be possible to sort of "nuke" a non-newbie's posts, but keep them unbanned? (Or have something where if all of your posts are in Games & Rounds, you gain no activity) This would harm account farmers and keep the main accounts of those who bought accounts safe. I'm purely thinking of ways to impact only the worst offenders, though I don't condone account trading either.

I agree with botany, campaign owners will be willing to increase pay to make active campaigners to switch to another campaign because of the higher pay and with higher pay, this would also force the campaigners to make sure their posts meets the quality standards to avoid being kicked out of the campaign or posts not being counted.

I doubt if that would be the case. If there is a decline in account farmers, my guess is that you would have signature campaigns paying higher for the remaining participants. Sites would anyway discount alt traffic when they take into account whether they want to advertise here or not.

Looks like someone is trying to earn that sig. money?

I concur. A fair amount of these accounts could be easily detected, and it's quite trivial to handle them. Either just ban them all or wipe them from the database.

Now imagine how many more accounts there are that you have not found. More and more genuine people are leaving this place due to this very inaction. We could run this discussion infinitely though.

if a person wants to register his own account he has to wait in line who are to be approved. if he can't wait, he can always buy. but then again, the bought account can possibly be tagged - thats the catch.

It might not be a good move financially, but wouldn't it benefit the community ecosystem more? If you think that the forum will look like an empty parking space, then that's simply absurd. Plenty of guests visit here (and perhaps lurkers who do not post) and lots of individuals (without tons of farmed accounts) are active on the forum, myself included. If you clear away the farmed accounts, then that will set a precedent - and it would not necessarily have to be repeated since the owners would be less inclined to create more just to have them banned [or perhaps there could be units of evil associated with their IPs].

Even if the accounts were 50% of active members, so what? This forum was not created solely to appeal to those who want to have an easy time shitting up the place. Let me ask you a question - would you rather earn your pay working in a place built out of guano, and having to wade through a sea of vomit... or instead have it halved, but have it take place in a clean office space with plenty of helpful co-workers?

(The analogy is not the best but it at the very least creates some imagery)

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Maybe a decline in account farmers would also mean a decreased payout for signature campaigns, or even fewer campaigns in general - which would probably be good. If people are interested in the technology rather than the profit (albeit small) that they can make from Bitcoin, then we would see it grow more. Who's more likely to invest in it? Some jobless person who doesn't speak English running low on cash, or someone interested in what makes Bitcoin tick? Even a little intrigue goes a long way - I read through a good portion of the documentation and guide, and it was very enlightening.

With staff I was more referring to any non admin level staff member as the admins are too busy according to themselves. And when it comes to theymos, it's already known that he isn't planning to do anything regarding account farmers.

I however find it not really appropriate to link him to (in your words) organised ring scamming. He knows that the far majority of the accounts posting here are alt accounts, and thus banning them won't be a good move from his point of view.

If these accounts with their connected IPs get perma banned, the forum will look like an empty parking place. If you look at it from that point, then things aren't as easy as they might seem.

Sorry, that is wrong. As you said previously,


theymos could easily identify/control farmed accounts. Much easier than me.
He just doesn't want to. He is most likely a big part of the organised ring scamming here.

By not acting over the last 5 months ignoring this thread, theymos has shown his approval of the situation.
700 farmed accounts listed by me, all scamming and/or spamming, unhindered by admin. Don't you see the picture here?

I have found hundreds more not-yet-published farmed accounts. theymos will have seen those accounts too.

Staff doesn't have the time to go through all the just registered accounts to approve them or not. It's basically an impossible task with a forum of this magnitude.

I am however a supporter of marking obvious sold accounts, but it's quite hard to accomplish this with less obvious cases. Who is then the person that should mark these accounts? The seller? The escow in question?

just disallow the registration or kinda like how eric of gfy.com did it. registration are going to be approved one by one after registrant is going to email theymos about it.
we'll soon see one by one who sell accounts and then we'll mark each seller some feedback. the demands of account will be high and so does the price.
we can also mark sold accounts as sold to track each. this is going to be fun. 

What platform are you talking about? How would you stop people from farming accounts there?

The solution? Start using a decent platform for discussing btc instead of this corrupt one.

I supported riz long time ago, but he ignored my posts, he ignores local spammers but only focus on English spammers? Local spammers are much more than English. Now I just think he is a man without real job, daily research in everyone? Cheers for wasting time!

Why you give me red trust? You fucking abuse your trust here. LMAO, you self-righteous world police like riz, get you life and a new hobby, like mod said.

Archived for future reference: http://archive.is/lofp2#selection-5195.0-5227.465


I notice Yohji Yamamoto is too afraid to use their Genesis Alt ^TM to post that claim.

I thought i had seen his name here - Bitcoin Forum > Other > Meta > Bitcoin Wiki (Moderators: nanotube, Luke-Jr, SomeoneWeird) ?