Topic: Account farming. Allowed? - page 6. (Read 51838 times)

That would not be a problem - unless theymos supported it.
That "Real Banks or even law enforcement" farmer could easily be detected and stopped.

If theymos thought his forum was being destabilised, he could have banned my farmed accounts before i had even found them! Easy. Problem solved.
(or well on the way to being solved)

In theymos's position, i could identify many, many more farmed accounts. If i had his access and tools, i could find them much quicker. Like he can.
(i have already found a few hundred other farmed accounts - unpublished - i have a job IRL)
theymos has Known of all my farmed accounts before i did.

He does not act because this is how he want's it.

Especially if an Alt Farmer ^TM were commissioned by a third party to actually create thousands of Alts to destabilise BitCoinTalk.org - the farmer is already paid for the entire crop, not just one cherry off the tree at a time.

I don't really follow reddit much besides occasionally reading it. The only moderator from Blockstream is Maxwell AFAIK.

Indeed.

I wouldn't go that far and say that he was "hurt".

That is not related to this case.

Then save us the bytes in here and PM people instead.

This is weird tho. I guess rizzlarolla was hurt in this statements?  Then you were also removed as a mod? Demn i am not just that good in politics anyways i ll just continue watching

1. i don't think your wrong about that as i have been trying to show.
2. oh yes.
3. thanks
4. i was thinking of reddit? are there any other core/blockstream contributors moderating here?
5. i try to speculate based on research. we can't all just walk away can we? (as explained previously)

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i stated why the mods would say it on the previous page here?

Here you go:

I shall not comment on this, but rizzarolla might.

This is quite intriguing on my part. To whom are you referring to. I am also doubtful if why would they say it? because in the first place I think you are doing a good job and besides it can help them looks for this certain accounts and finds out if they violates some rules.

Indeed. They keep on coming, although I think they may be more oriented towards the altcoin projects (I may be wrong). I'm also not going to comment the activities of any particular staff member.

One is a global moderator, the other is not. I'll just leave this as a comment:

Correct. Some do get sold and some end up scamming (there was a case this very month IIRC). I can explain the trust system properly; just PM me if you want.

From what I can see, luke-jr is not a moderator.

I've wanted to correct some minor mistakes as there are people who are just silently reading this. I'm pretty much with you on this, excluding the speculative thoughts as to who's behind it. I personally prefer not to speculate that much.

Interesting assertion. The situation is most surely damaging to the ecosystem.

Ok, i can probably agree with that. After all, i know how much work it can be to fight this problem when there is an endless supply of new farmed accounts ready to try to replace "blacklisted" accounts. You were the only mod i could see doing anything.
(but now you got yourself fired)


I think we both played a part in getting things done, and making things clearer. It can only be a sticking plaster against this.
Two (global?) mods have told me tonight i should get a new hobby. Piss off rizzlarolla?
They have not acted against farmed accounts. They love Fatanut?


Yeah, a lot are gone, some are sold(?). The remainer's (in the higher ranks) have overseen bitcointalks decline.
I'm not well versed in DT.


Ok, i probably should have said core or blockstream? Luke j also moderates?
It is a failure by association. They are linked to theymos here and elsewhere.
This failure likely suits their agenda also.


That is evident by the response's in this thread over 5 months. Nothing, or nearly nothing.

Quite "thought provoking" my post. You don't seem to have any real big problem with my thinking Lauda?

Could be, but i don't believe satoshi was involved. Therefore, it was not the original setup.
Maybe theymos sold the forum. We would not know that?

But could equally be someone who loves btc. Just got greedy. Wants loads of Bitcoin.
i think that the degradation of Bitcoin is only a temporary side effect, not the long term goal.
(in such a case, they probably wont think they are degrading bitcoin?)

While I *in principle* agree with the spirit of what @rizzlarolla is saying, perhaps there are other scenarios that should be explored, for example who would want to discredit BitCoins? Real Banks or even law enforcement who might perceive (without understanding the power of BlockChain), that crypto currencies are a threat?

I would only modify this statement to better reflect the situation by changing it to:"Some signature campaigns..". There are plenty of those that are full of shitposters.

You have? That must have been something during the first SMAS attempt. IIRC it was me who revived it with the blacklist idea when I started to manage Bitmixer.

Yes, and no. It is really hard to say who pulls what strings in certain cases. However, a lot of 'serious DT' members have abandoned this 'ship' due to inaction.

If I'm correct, he spends very little time in here. There's no need to target individuals though. No staff member has the 'power' to do a 'cleanup' or make 'desired changes'.

Correct. See my previous remark on DT members.

I haven't looked at this HateNATO case Timelord2067, guess i will at some point.
Do you know which accounts are/are not banned. - edit, i got it, Known alts thread!
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"I'm begining to think @rizzlarolla may actually be right that the staff / admin of bitcointalk.org are doing more than just turning a blind eye to the scamming going on."
- Timelord2067.

Indeed, everything is pointing that way from where i'm looking.
There seems to be different farmed accounts for different purposes. Some scam or pump, some sell, some spam,. An evolving ecosystem.
I linked 209 ALPHABET accounts, explained and posted again here recently. (previous page) I am certain the ABCD accounts are the same farmer. And others. All unhindered by theymos. WTF is going on!

My "90" list (aug 8/9 accounts) published recently shows (if you read that way) how these accounts are not created for selling.
They are created for pumping the latest scam here. (Bitsler, waves, chronobank.io. stratis, Qtum to name a few)
Lulling newbies, and people who look but never register here, to part from their btc.
(most of the people scammed must be very naive, but that doesn't lessen the plot, and still blackens the btc perception)
(added - are these ico's now being made to order/rota "peimarily" for bitcointalk? more research needed, no time as yet)

If i can easily find these accounts, theymos already knows.

Of course, theymos will probably say these scams are legit business proposals. If they were, they would not need all these farmed accounts pumping would they, creating a false sense of legitimacy and popularity. (like my favourite scamcoin neucoin. they would pay cointelegraph to publish untruth's to deceive/scam their own readers)

I am a little time constrained in my searches, and am greatly hindered by the lack of any admin input (lol). The lack of any forum tools, or (usable) member search facility. (that has been disabled) theymos has never responded.

Signature campaigns have got "a bit" cleaner lately, since my input was making clear how many "farmed" accounts were taking the places of real members. (not that many real members would want to advertise the latest batch of scams would they?)
Farmed accounts probably created by campaign managers or admin to sig spam with impunity.
Any "innocent" campaign manager worth his salt would have seen they were paying farmed accounts.
The forum was on it's knee's under the weight of spam until (i speculate) i forced SMAS to pretend to be against spam.
But previously they helped create the problem.

Even Fatanut now running the sig campaign list, with full support from Yahoo.
Fatanut is a farmed account with many scammy "brother accounts". I see no evidence of that account being sold.
I wouldn't really care if it was sold. To me anyone buying an account does so to deceive here.

Senior DT members must also be involved. Their inaction shows this.

The forum hacks? Ok, maybe incompetence, but then to allow all the old accounts (that were hacked and sold?) to come back to life here.
Many are easily identifiable. Probably johnybigs? More profits for "scammers".

It feels to me like Greg maxwell is also compliant. He moderates here. He allows all this scamming of real bitcoiners.
Driving away adopters to keep his 1mb block intact, while building up monero.

Satoshi must be fuming. The go-to btc site, and the btc devs of "default" are killing what they should be nurturing - Bitcoin.
There is a bigger picture to find here.

Others here (or gone more likely) must see the same. Someone's gotta stand up for Bitcoin here.

I'm begining to think @rizzlarolla may actually be right that the staff / admin of bitcointalk.org are doing more than just turning a blind eye to the scamming going on.

There are 11 self admitted UID's in that thread: CroSany, SanjaPaulina, PokemonFun, RussiaIsBest, CroIsBest, HateEU, HateNATO, DlakavaKobasica, BitcoinTeacher, bitcoinisbest, IamCro and yet IamCro somehow manages to sweet talk their way into having some or all of those alts unbanned.

The staff / admin are either naive or increadably gullable given that with a few clicks of the mouse I've been able to identify another six UID's hateCB, Sanjaya, CroSani, CroIsPro, BigKobasica, btc teacher with corresponding registration dates to the eleven listed above as detailed in this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17673010

Banned. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unbanncroisbestrussiaisbestpokemonfunhatenatohateeu-are-banned-1769120

their first post they apologise for their (broken) English. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hatecb-572070 http://archive.is/3rOrS

Follows the same two letters as hate EU - CB standing for Charge Back amongst other usages.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CB

Yup HateEU 880061, HateNATO 880092. 31 accounts apart. (less than 2 hours) Well spotted.

I'm looking at the 800000's atm... (hence my last long "90" list)

I have to dumb it down a bit.

In a big way, you are right. There is no rule against having 100 accounts of your own.
But if you try doing that, it wont work for you. You are not part of the sanctioned crime ring here. You will be banned.

Bye Bye HateNATO. 

1) Before you criticise anybody else's English you should take a lesson - your English is crap.

2)  If you don't understand the point of this thread you clearly haven't read it properly.  Your pathetic "few accounts", while spammy and annoying, are not classed as account farming.  You're about 50 accounts short.  Before you go all cocky wide boy on us, try reading the thread.

rizzlarolla I cant understand you.Your grammar English so bad.I even didnt trid to sell account here I dont want sell it.Also I dont see reason why you are so angry to account farmers when multiply account is allowed?I will live this poor topic and never come back again because of you.


BitHodler who even care if he create a multiply account list when I respect all rules I join with every account in different signature campaign and I respect all rules.

I never spam with my account I write normal posts as you can see.

Bye bye I leave this weird topic where nobody dont know multiply account rules