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I can answer a bit of this though I'm as frustrated as anyone.
He genuinely can't discuss anything which would imply a deal had or hadn't been made yet with eASIC.
It's not a situ that can continue any longer IMHO (because he needs some press coverage as well as long term shareholders being unhappy about lack of information) and we've made that clear. Ken is not the best at handling the public side of things as we all know and tends to focus on his engineering.
It's a holiday in the US Monday but tues onwards we'll continue to push him daily to ensure he is chasing it up as his highest priority. We want to see this put to bed within the next week or so but it's not down to us.
He genuinely can't discuss anything which would imply a deal had or hadn't been made yet with eASIC.
It's not a situ that can continue any longer IMHO (because he needs some press coverage as well as long term shareholders being unhappy about lack of information) and we've made that clear. Ken is not the best at handling the public side of things as we all know and tends to focus on his engineering.
It's a holiday in the US Monday but tues onwards we'll continue to push him daily to ensure he is chasing it up as his highest priority. We want to see this put to bed within the next week or so but it's not down to us.
ActM is happening, with or without current shareholders. Fact.
Everything is in place and for those of you thinking of jumping ship, just remember when you're in the water and look back over your shoulder, you'll see that ship steaming towards a massive rainbow without you.
As one of our posters just mentioned, 'the silence is deafening'. I say silence is golden and no news is good news.
The question is, what type of character do you all have? My cup is half full, and soon to be overflowing. For those of you with cups half empty, that doesn't matter so long as you hold on to your cup.
P.S. Cheerleader practice rescheduled for sunday 1830 hrs GMT.
Everything is in place and for those of you thinking of jumping ship, just remember when you're in the water and look back over your shoulder, you'll see that ship steaming towards a massive rainbow without you.
As one of our posters just mentioned, 'the silence is deafening'. I say silence is golden and no news is good news.
The question is, what type of character do you all have? My cup is half full, and soon to be overflowing. For those of you with cups half empty, that doesn't matter so long as you hold on to your cup.
P.S. Cheerleader practice rescheduled for sunday 1830 hrs GMT.
It seems like a lot of people don't know what an NDA is or don't have any experience with an NDA. Ken is not withholding information from you because he is a bad guy and doesn't like to communicate. It is because he doesn't want to get SUED. It is very common for businesses who join in a partnership to sign NDA's. Some info from our friend wikipedia:
Now I know some of you say, "OO but this shouldn't be covered by the NDA, or that shouldn't be covered by the NDA." Any decent businessman would not risk his partnership nor a lawsuit by accidentally leaking information. It is best to keep your mouth shut just in case. I hope this helps people understand how important an NDA is and how important it is to not disclose confidential information.
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A non-disclosure agreement (NDA), also known as a confidentiality agreement (CA), confidential disclosure agreement (CDA), proprietary information agreement (PIA), or secrecy agreement, is a legal contract between at least two parties that outlines confidential material, knowledge, or information that the parties wish to share with one another for certain purposes, but wish to restrict access to or by third parties. It's a contract through which the parties agree not to disclose information covered by the agreement. An NDA creates a confidential relationship between the parties to protect any type of confidential and proprietary information or trade secrets. As such, an NDA protects nonpublic business information.
NDAs are commonly signed when two companies, individuals, or other entities (such as partnerships, societies, etc.) are considering doing business and need to understand the processes used in each other's business for the purpose of evaluating the potential business relationship. NDAs can be "mutual", meaning both parties are restricted in their use of the materials provided, or they can restrict the use of material by a single party.
NDAs are commonly signed when two companies, individuals, or other entities (such as partnerships, societies, etc.) are considering doing business and need to understand the processes used in each other's business for the purpose of evaluating the potential business relationship. NDAs can be "mutual", meaning both parties are restricted in their use of the materials provided, or they can restrict the use of material by a single party.
Now I know some of you say, "OO but this shouldn't be covered by the NDA, or that shouldn't be covered by the NDA." Any decent businessman would not risk his partnership nor a lawsuit by accidentally leaking information. It is best to keep your mouth shut just in case. I hope this helps people understand how important an NDA is and how important it is to not disclose confidential information.
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Hi Ken. What are you planning to do when the divs reach less than one satoshi? I assume divs will be moved to monthly at that point?
Seems like you are all just using emotional blackmail to get ActM to make announcements. The company doesn't need you, stay or leave, it makes no difference.
There are a couple ways of interpreting things. One is that, as you say, it's a temporarily sinking ship (as you acknowledge end of year gains) and the other is that, for whatever reason, eASIC are adamant about this NDA. Maybe they have good reason to be; maybe they don't. But I'm not just going to jump to assuming the whole operation is on life support, just as I'm not preaching that CoinTerra better prep their collective rectum for the impending ActM pounding.
Let's all just relax.
Let's all just relax.
Eh, I think ActM is making progress. Perhaps it's just a difference in what's assumed surrounding the absence of communication, but the bits of communication we have heard don't make me jump to seeing monsters under the bed.
It's definitely possible, but I just don't think it's reality.
Also, ActM will certainly see 0.005+. You must be joking....
It's definitely possible, but I just don't think it's reality.
Also, ActM will certainly see 0.005+. You must be joking....
I speaking of just the announcement of easic.
I'm sure it will be over .006 by end of year but short term this is a sinking ship.
This stock literally has nothing to show for itself right now.
Eh, I think ActM is making progress. Perhaps it's just a difference in what's assumed surrounding the absence of communication, but the bits of communication we have heard don't make me jump to seeing monsters under the bed.
It's definitely possible, but I just don't think it's reality.
Also, ActM will certainly see 0.005+. You must be joking....
It's definitely possible, but I just don't think it's reality.
Also, ActM will certainly see 0.005+. You must be joking....
Even if there was an easic an announcement the price won't go up that much.
You guys might be above .005 again
You guys might be above .005 again
Had to poke my head in here when I saw the divs.
There is absolutely no reason, with confidence dropping the share price, why Ken or PR should not make an announcement regrading eASIC at this point.
It's astoundingly frustrating and makes me feel like NOTHING is happening to make this company successful since nothing whatsoever is being said by those in charge.
My Fear Uncertainty and Doubt are in hyperdrive.
There is absolutely no reason, with confidence dropping the share price, why Ken or PR should not make an announcement regrading eASIC at this point.
It's astoundingly frustrating and makes me feel like NOTHING is happening to make this company successful since nothing whatsoever is being said by those in charge.
My Fear Uncertainty and Doubt are in hyperdrive.
There is one major problem I am concerned about, and that is that there are serious problems happening at the moment, and Ken is hiding behind the NDA to cover this up, hoping to resolve the problems and then suddenly say that everything is fine in the future.
ie. the silence is because there is only bad news, use the NDA to say 'we can't say anything'.
There are so many facets of ActM that have nothing to do with eAsic, yet they too are not being spoken about.
How is it possible that EVERYTHING is covered by the NDA ... impossible!!
The silence is deafening
I feel like I've kissed my remaining investment good bye. At one time I was a very large supporter ($150k + shares) now I'm not even 10% of that. This has been a great investment learning tool for me. It's much better to hold short term and capture gains, than to believe the company line and hold on for divs.
I'm not bitter as I've done very well with this investment. I'm just bummed as I wanted it to work out long term.
Had to poke my head in here when I saw the divs.
There is absolutely no reason, with confidence dropping the share price, why Ken or PR should not make an announcement regrading eASIC at this point.
It's astoundingly frustrating and makes me feel like NOTHING is happening to make this company successful since nothing whatsoever is being said by those in charge.
My Fear Uncertainty and Doubt are in hyperdrive.
There is absolutely no reason, with confidence dropping the share price, why Ken or PR should not make an announcement regrading eASIC at this point.
It's astoundingly frustrating and makes me feel like NOTHING is happening to make this company successful since nothing whatsoever is being said by those in charge.
My Fear Uncertainty and Doubt are in hyperdrive.
There is one major problem I am concerned about, and that is that there are serious problems happening at the moment, and Ken is hiding behind the NDA to cover this up, hoping to resolve the problems and then suddenly say that everything is fine in the future.
ie. the silence is because there is only bad news, use the NDA to say 'we can't say anything'.
There are so many facets of ActM that have nothing to do with eAsic, yet they too are not being spoken about.
How is it possible that EVERYTHING is covered by the NDA ... impossible!!
The silence is deafening
Had to poke my head in here when I saw the divs.
There is absolutely no reason, with confidence dropping the share price, why Ken or PR should not make an announcement regrading eASIC at this point.
It's astoundingly frustrating and makes me feel like NOTHING is happening to make this company successful since nothing whatsoever is being said by those in charge.
My Fear Uncertainty and Doubt are in hyperdrive.
There is absolutely no reason, with confidence dropping the share price, why Ken or PR should not make an announcement regrading eASIC at this point.
It's astoundingly frustrating and makes me feel like NOTHING is happening to make this company successful since nothing whatsoever is being said by those in charge.
My Fear Uncertainty and Doubt are in hyperdrive.
Oh have you finally stopped being a cheerleader?
Just hold and probably buy more while prices are cheap, one good announcement will change everything.
or one bad announcement...
There are lots of things that should not be covered by NDA.
What about controller board designs? You're going to need a ton of PCBs, have you guys figured out the design? Do you have the BOM and the gerber files? Have you contracted a PCB Mfg to produce the boards? What about an SMT line for assembly? What about the interface protocol and software support?
None of that stuff should be covered by an NDA or even related to eAsic (unless you're having them do the boards as well, but then there's still no reason to have an NDA)
What about controller board designs? You're going to need a ton of PCBs, have you guys figured out the design? Do you have the BOM and the gerber files? Have you contracted a PCB Mfg to produce the boards? What about an SMT line for assembly? What about the interface protocol and software support?
None of that stuff should be covered by an NDA or even related to eAsic (unless you're having them do the boards as well, but then there's still no reason to have an NDA)
I hope these good questions won't get avoided, again.
+1 this!
Had to poke my head in here when I saw the divs.
There is absolutely no reason, with confidence dropping the share price, why Ken or PR should not make an announcement regrading eASIC at this point.
It's astoundingly frustrating and makes me feel like NOTHING is happening to make this company successful since nothing whatsoever is being said by those in charge.
My Fear Uncertainty and Doubt are in hyperdrive.
There is absolutely no reason, with confidence dropping the share price, why Ken or PR should not make an announcement regrading eASIC at this point.
It's astoundingly frustrating and makes me feel like NOTHING is happening to make this company successful since nothing whatsoever is being said by those in charge.
My Fear Uncertainty and Doubt are in hyperdrive.
Just hold and probably buy more while prices are cheap, one good announcement will change everything.
I think the best thing is to just remain patient. It's brutal, yes, but my confidence is still here. Whether I'm a total knob for thinking that is yet to be seen, but I'm holding.
Had to poke my head in here when I saw the divs.
There is absolutely no reason, with confidence dropping the share price, why Ken or PR should not make an announcement regrading eASIC at this point.
It's astoundingly frustrating and makes me feel like NOTHING is happening to make this company successful since nothing whatsoever is being said by those in charge.
My Fear Uncertainty and Doubt are in hyperdrive.
There is absolutely no reason, with confidence dropping the share price, why Ken or PR should not make an announcement regrading eASIC at this point.
It's astoundingly frustrating and makes me feel like NOTHING is happening to make this company successful since nothing whatsoever is being said by those in charge.
My Fear Uncertainty and Doubt are in hyperdrive.
There are lots of things that should not be covered by NDA.
What about controller board designs? You're going to need a ton of PCBs, have you guys figured out the design? Do you have the BOM and the gerber files? Have you contracted a PCB Mfg to produce the boards? What about an SMT line for assembly? What about the interface protocol and software support?
None of that stuff should be covered by an NDA or even related to eAsic (unless you're having them do the boards as well, but then there's still no reason to have an NDA)
What about controller board designs? You're going to need a ton of PCBs, have you guys figured out the design? Do you have the BOM and the gerber files? Have you contracted a PCB Mfg to produce the boards? What about an SMT line for assembly? What about the interface protocol and software support?
None of that stuff should be covered by an NDA or even related to eAsic (unless you're having them do the boards as well, but then there's still no reason to have an NDA)
I hope these good questions won't get avoided, again.
I would hope that PR can give some insight when he gets a chance.
There are lots of things that should not be covered by NDA.
What about controller board designs? You're going to need a ton of PCBs, have you guys figured out the design? Do you have the BOM and the gerber files? Have you contracted a PCB Mfg to produce the boards? What about an SMT line for assembly? What about the interface protocol and software support?
None of that stuff should be covered by an NDA or even related to eAsic (unless you're having them do the boards as well, but then there's still no reason to have an NDA)
What about controller board designs? You're going to need a ton of PCBs, have you guys figured out the design? Do you have the BOM and the gerber files? Have you contracted a PCB Mfg to produce the boards? What about an SMT line for assembly? What about the interface protocol and software support?
None of that stuff should be covered by an NDA or even related to eAsic (unless you're having them do the boards as well, but then there's still no reason to have an NDA)
I hope these good questions won't get avoided, again.
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