Topic: Addiction is 100% your choice: - page 5. (Read 3062 times)

Yeah right, depending from the level of their engagements to gambling, some can still resist and value their work while some already attached that much and wanting to keep pushing forward, it's always a your self-will and addiction can developed when your attachment or your engagements are already too far.

Like what the post above you mentioned time is not really the main thing but it affects when you already consume a lot and you are unable to balance your wour work and your gambling activities.

Sorry to say there are various types of work and job with their tasks, when you have lot of tasks at work place even though you must gamble it would be limited because you wouldn't want to messed up with your time the next day while resuming office. So, work is of various kinds and there are some people who even gamble at work place with their personal system or smartphone I will say this depends on the level of their activities and involvement in gambling.

that is the importance of having limits and a good mindset with gambling. when you have a good mindset such as considering gambling is really just for entertainment, then I think there will be no excessive behavior such as betting all the money you have because when that happens, it is certain that it has become an addiction. and it is true that addiction is our own choice, because there is no element of coercion from the casino so it all depends on us to do it ourselves.

the thing to note is not to have the wrong mindset in gambling assumptions such as assuming that in gambling we can definitely make money, of course it is not big. because usually with such thinking it will only make us unable to accept the money lost in gambling and after that it makes us want to continue to recover losses by any means of course it leads us to continue gambling even though we have experienced consecutive defeats. this must be considered because addiction or not depends on ourselves.

Yes I am sure with what I said above, I understand that making money a priority in the game can trigger various bad impacts especially addiction, or what I mean is making winning the main goal can trigger addiction as you said.

You also said that if someone knows that making money the main goal can make them end up addicted then they will prefer to get involved and gamble just for fun because with that goal it will be easier for them to control themselves, I think you need to note that there is the word "if" in the idea, meaning isn't it possible for them not to know about what and how addiction really is? isn't it possible for them not to know that addiction is a very bad impact that can destroy all aspects of their lives?

I think it is very possible, because not everyone comes with a true understanding of what and how gambling really is, especially in terms of its impacts, which in the end they do not realize that they have entered a cycle of addiction, not everyone knows that gambling with the intention of having fun is the only way to stay safe, I say everything based on a rational mindset, my friend, by using various possibilities as reference materials.

Sometimes people's cases are very different, and of course, depending on the person's mental health, their treatments tend to be different. Now, with people with certain Disabilities , I think it is not at all advisable for them to go to a casino, or at least if they do, it should be under the guidance of another person who is responsible and controls them, but it is difficult. Nowadays, these types of things are not seen, and people who are not in very good mental health take refuge in Gambling to Feel great. It is difficult.

When life events happen, people begin to deviate from doing the right thing. Gambling without discipline is not an issue anymore because people have generalized betting without a budget, chasing losses to recover or chasing more wins as a pattern that is worth taking such risk. Even if at the end of the day everyone takes full responsibility for the choice we make after several warnings of gambling addictions still many are ignorant of it.

Time isn't the cause or an excuse for anything here. There are still people who are busy with their jobs and do not have lots of time but in their free time when they get back home. The level of gambling they get themselves into would be more than someone who dont have any serious job.

Agreed is either we take responsibility or seek for help when and where needed, addictions is a choice and the individual will at a point be in the central stage to deal with the addictions because it all started from him any ways so it takes same addict to get it killed, I have hard that addictions can need medical help but then I still believe strongly that even though you get a medical treatment with some medication I still think the individual addict still have a major role to play to the effectiveness of such a medication or any medical help he may get.

Everything could really be depending into someones choice on which it would really be just that normal that on the time or moment that you would really be on such situation or condition, then it would really be that too impossible that you wont really be able to make yourself that being making those kind of realizations on whats currently happening into you on which it would really be that impossible that you wont really be able to determine whether you are doing good or bad already specially into your finances on which we know that on the time or moment that you would be suffering some huge loses on the time that you do play gambling then this is the moment that you should really be making out some decisions whether you should really be that quitting or you would really be that making yourself proceeding despite of the condition.

You are the ones who do really make out your own future on which if you had made out some bad decisions then it would really be automatically make out those bad results in the end of the time.
We do know that too much addiction would really be resulting into those conditions on where you would really be spending like a mad man specially on the time that you are already chasing up loses
on which on the moment that you are on such condition then it would really be that so damn hard to stop and this is where those people or addicted ones do end up miserable.

Gambling addiction is a complex matter.  It is explained in this article[1]  how people have a misconception that addiction is a choice.  The article gives a good point of view about addiction as a choice which is viewed in the earlier study of addiction but in recent decades addiction has been labeled as a disease rather than a behavioral choice.


The article I link describes how addiction changes the brain.  I agree that initially, people choose to gamble, but it is to gamble and not to get addicted to gambling.  But due to circumstances and being exposed to gambling activities, the person may get a disease called gambling addiction and that is when the time comes that he can't control his brain's urge to gamble.

In addition, I highly agree with the wrapping up of the given article[1]

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[1] https://brookdalerecovery.com/is-addiction-disease-or-choice/

Do you really think addiction happens unconsciously? I don’t really think so. Before you join gambling, the mindset you have will determine if you will become addicted to gambling at the end or not. If you decide to join gambling because of money, then you should know that you are going to get addicted to gambling at the end, but if you already know about addiction and have the mindset of having fun when gambling, then you will be able to control yourself whenever you are gambling. So I don’t really believe that people get addicted to gambling unconsciously.

Condition happened to almost everyone because nobody can be perfect human been but it's not be financial problem. Literally everyone has one or two things on his mind to solve and that doesn't mean you should be blind when it comes to making good choice. If you are down financially, gambling should be the last resort for money even though you have been playing it before, your emotions and the current situations will have a great impact on your games and how you even play.

People don't want to listen when they say gambling is fun but the casino that best described it knows that if you don't play for fun, you will be playing for money and you have the chance of losing that money but the inbuilt critiques inside wouldn't let them reason these things until their lost has escalated beyond what they can solve, that's when the regret comes in which is already late to handle.

That explanation and mindset is understandable when it is applied to people who happens to be in a healthy and stable condition. But, as I have mentioned before and on other threads, one cannot compare the mindset of a person who is mentally stable and healthy to someone who may suffer from Autism, or some compulsive personality disorder, which makes them to uncontrollably follow patterns, that is a economical death sentence for someone with those conditions, in my opinion.
So it is true there is an important part or personal responsibility when comes to allowing oneself to fall for addiction, but we cannot ignore the less fortunate ones.

Those who need to take pills and seek for psychological help and instead, they try to peace their cravings with gambling when they should not..

I think that if a person promises himself or his loved ones or anyone else that he will never become addicted, then I don't think that's a good sign. I mean, no one will ever ask a person who doesn't have a gambling problem that way. For example, I've never had a gambling problem and I've never promised anyone that I won't have one, simply because I've never thought about it. If someone close to a person asks him to promise that he will never become addicted to gambling, then that means they have suspicions or concerns.

Yes, and the effect of exploding dopamine levels in the brain can really cause and increase a person's confidence and hope so that because of this they continue their game session with confidence and hope to get a much bigger win. Addiction means when someone can't miss a moment not to do the activity, which means it's quite in accordance with what you said. A gambler can't choose whether they want to be addicted or not, because that is the impact that will occur after a long process, but of course as you understand that we can all prevent it from the start where the real choice is whether you want to gamble on the right path or on the wrong path.

But I'm sure that someone who from the start does not understand what and how gambling really is, especially not realizing that there is a possibility of becoming addicted which has many bad impacts, then they will never be able to think about choosing a better gambling approach, meaning that the choice will most likely only be done by gamblers who from the start already know about the bad risks of addiction.

Yes, addiction is beyond the understanding of most people. But this reason doesn't sideline the fact that gamblers are responsible for their gambling problem. Many players need to acknowledge the control they have over their emotions. Unfortunately, some gamblers believe addiction happens to people without notice. If players who live with addiction were sincere, they would point out those periods when their habits began to change. They ignored it because nothing as such occurred in their memory.

If players sincerely accept it's all their mistakes that led them to addiction, they'll have a smooth healing process. Instead of this self-acknowledgment, they still go ahead to worsen the problem by believing it's not their fault but that of the casino. Notably, a person with an addiction won't heal unless he accepts his mistakes. That's a better reason why gamblers should take responsibility for the cause of their addiction problem.

Thae satisfaction they derive from playing constantly when they lose or win is dopamine effect in their brain, not being able to sleep or do anything without engaging in it  is considered to be an addiction, but it didn't just start in a day or two, it's a progressive thing and it's a matter of choice, you as an individual can decide to continue or flee from it before it becomes something that you cannot do without...and you are right about the first point you made about psychology,  as individuals our mental capacity is different but no matter how weak someones state of mind is it can be developed, it all depends on the individuals choice

I think I totally agree with the title of the thread, it's our decision, and why? Because at the end of the day when you're at the limit of sobriety and decision the person feels that they're crossing the line of normality, and that's what they have to control, there's no other way, they can't be making things up, so it's a choice because above all we are thinking people , who reason , who know what's good and what's bad, but above all we are people who must be responsible, and that word "responsibility" is the only thing that matters when it comes to any kind of decision and even more so when it comes to money.

I agree with you that addiction is your choice but the situation isn't as easy as it sounds. I know many people who started gambling at a young age, since they were 14 years old. They were gambling, it was cool in our school class to play at casinos, parents weren't attentive because half of them were in migration and half of them worked every day for up to 12 hours. These kids lost lots of money as they grew up and many of them swore to stop gambling if they would get lost money back but this is the moment when they started diving down.
It was their choice to start gambling and it was their choice to don't start from a clean page but it's hard to blame them for all of these. It was a mixture of many mistakes that were made from them, from school, from parents and probably from relatives. They became a victim of all these.

I agree and everything you said is true, as you said that the fact is most addicts do not know about how the scenario they can end up with addiction, meaning that addiction occurs unconsciously and not because of the intention from the beginning of being involved in gambling.

I think we all know about the bad situation that will impact life when we have reached the addiction phase, there is nothing positive that we can take from the addiction situation, meaning if addiction is 100% a choice from the beginning of someone being involved then the question is whether there are people who want to experience the various bad impacts that occur in their lives due to the influence of addiction? I don't think so at all.

Anything that you are doing then it is really that something that you are really that making up such decision on which its true that it would really be impossible that you cant really be able to determine on which one is good and which one is bad. On the moment that you are losing then you would be thinking up a certain point that you should quit, but since you do have that kind of impulsive emotion and your mind is really that making up those kind of desperation then you would really be
definitely be playing even more. Addiction is something like a disease that once it would really be happening into you then it would really be that hard for you to get out or overcome it. People would really be making out those kind of regrets but its already too late. So therefore, it would really be just that be basing up on how
you would really be making up decisions basing up into your condition.