The premise of addiction as purely voluntary only works while you ignore actual physical reliance on substances is a real addiction that cannot be altered in one day. Theres a physiological effect and so in turn addiction in part is the continuation of the habit because it can be near lethal to change that course, literally your body has that requirement even if its a bad one.
The more controversial angle is where we start talking about purely habits of playing games for money like gambling is, is that physical. Some argue that its little different as your brain is conditioned to want this particular activity for dopamine reliance. Its not quite the same, the physical part cant kill you but we cant really call addiction a voluntary activity at its worst.
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Almost 90% of the people who have a thing against gambling do so because they feel that gambling is addictive. But come to think of it, isn't addiction a choice? After reading lots of stories on the effects of being an addicted gambler, I feel it's 100% possible to tell myself that I can never be addicted to gambling and won't ever get addicted.
If for instance, I decide that I'm only going to gamble once a week and that at each time I will only gamble with an amount like $20 based on my current financial strength, would I ever become addicted to gambling? Isn't it because you don't have any plan in place and just gamble as your spirit leads that makes you become careless with your gambling and become addicted to the process? Just want to ask this question;
Can you comfortably tell yourself that you have never been addicted to gambling and that you can never be addicted to gambling because of how you go about it?
I don't really agree that it 100% a choice, yes it really up to you as a gamble to control yourself in whatever thing you do when it comes betting, and you can only achieve this by setting boundaries, set rules and as well disciplines yourself so you don't become a victim addict, but however, the truth is that some people that become gamble addict today don't even know how they got there and in some cases, some addicts aren't even aware that they have become addict already. If for instance, I decide that I'm only going to gamble once a week and that at each time I will only gamble with an amount like $20 based on my current financial strength, would I ever become addicted to gambling? Isn't it because you don't have any plan in place and just gamble as your spirit leads that makes you become careless with your gambling and become addicted to the process? Just want to ask this question;
Can you comfortably tell yourself that you have never been addicted to gambling and that you can never be addicted to gambling because of how you go about it?
That is why it's important to set limit to gambling to maintain a healthy gambling lifestyle, one must not start noticing addiction before they could limiting themselves from gambling. When one is getting to nice and more attention to gambling then he should know that gradually they are getting closer to addiction but however, you already spoken it all because if someone doesn't want to becoming addicted he won't.
Condition actually push people to do things that they are not suppose to do because I wonder how people just get easily blinded by the truth, they always find it very difficult to put a limit to what they are betting they have ways to make things easy for them self, like have a budget but when they have small assurance the next thing they will increase the amount of money they use in gambling just because they feel they can make more money, and they keep gambling given their self more hope, and reducing the attention you give to gambling will help a lot, and I feel those that don’t do anything and they gamble plenty of them always take that gambling as another means for them to be making money, because for some one to have a serious job am very sure you won’t have time to gamble the way you want.
Reasons why people get addicted to gambling have been discussed many times before and they truth is many people think differently for themselves, they think they are special that what happened to other gamblers can't happen to them, until they end up with the same result, gambling isn't something I can control, instead I follow a safer procedure.
I throw money here and there, always, and I've never feel like I must win when gambling, if you know what gambling truly means you won't want to force your way, in your life time you might never have anything to show for that you earned through gambling, it is what it is, simply a game of luck.
I have never expected anything great from gambling, the meaning is enough for me to look else where if I really want results, gambling is mostly disappoint you, its Better to not rely too much on gambling, risk only what you can afford to lose and if you ever get lucky always learn to take your rewards and come back some other day.
I throw money here and there, always, and I've never feel like I must win when gambling, if you know what gambling truly means you won't want to force your way, in your life time you might never have anything to show for that you earned through gambling, it is what it is, simply a game of luck.
I have never expected anything great from gambling, the meaning is enough for me to look else where if I really want results, gambling is mostly disappoint you, its Better to not rely too much on gambling, risk only what you can afford to lose and if you ever get lucky always learn to take your rewards and come back some other day.
Nice point mate, most folks always have this high expectation in gambling in hitting something huge oneday. though it may seems possible , but you still got to mind the way you approach it , because approaching gambling the wrong way may lead to one ruining his live one way to another, like at first we all know that gambling is not a means to get rich quick despite seeing others showcasing their wins through many means. And most time why they usually endup with such huge wins (if luck where on their side), is because of the amount of money they normally make use of during their gambling sections , and that same amount of money may be the amount of money they can afford to lose. so for you to go all in as an irresponsible gambler after encounting others showcasing their wins , is better to stake that you can afford lose and approach gambling the right way.
if you ever get lucky always learn to take your rewards and come back some other day.
That's correct, but unfortunately, most gamblers ignore this thing and even when they get lucky, the greed factor jumps in and doesn't let them take and enjoy their profits, and they gamble their profits away along with their initial deposit. You will barely find a gambler who would say that they stop gambling when they are in profit because most of them don't stop at the right time and such responsible gamblers are very rare.
Knowing when to stop when you are gambling can be a difficult thing because human nature tends to be restless and greedy, and these things don't let you stop. When you are in profit, you feel you can get more profit if you continue, and when you are at a loss, you feel like you can recover your losses if you continue, but in reality, none of that happens.
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Thought, ironically it would seem that even people who had a healthy mindset like that one you had expressed had fallen victims of gambling addiction eventually, in those cases it is mostly by choice and does not have much to do with genetical factors or problems related to their mental health. Even reasonable people with a clear mindset of what gambling is supposed to be about could allow the habit to slip into addiction territory, before they realize it they are wagering more money they would have initially felt comfortable risking to begin with.
I don't know whether there is an actual chemical or biological explanation behind it, but it seems to be gamblers develop some tolerance to losses, to the point of getting sort of desensitized in the long run to losing money to the casino, allowing them to wager further.
Reasons why people get addicted to gambling have been discussed many times before and they truth is many people think differently for themselves, they think they are special that what happened to other gamblers can't happen to them, until they end up with the same result, gambling isn't something I can control, instead I follow a safer procedure.
I throw money here and there, always, and I've never feel like I must win when gambling, if you know what gambling truly means you won't want to force your way, in your life time you might never have anything to show for that you earned through gambling, it is what it is, simply a game of luck.
I have never expected anything great from gambling, the meaning is enough for me to look else where if I really want results, gambling is mostly disappoint you, its Better to not rely too much on gambling, risk only what you can afford to lose and if you ever get lucky always learn to take your rewards and come back some other day.
I throw money here and there, always, and I've never feel like I must win when gambling, if you know what gambling truly means you won't want to force your way, in your life time you might never have anything to show for that you earned through gambling, it is what it is, simply a game of luck.
I have never expected anything great from gambling, the meaning is enough for me to look else where if I really want results, gambling is mostly disappoint you, its Better to not rely too much on gambling, risk only what you can afford to lose and if you ever get lucky always learn to take your rewards and come back some other day.
Almost 90% of the people who have a thing against gambling do so because they feel that gambling is addictive. But come to think of it, isn't addiction a choice? After reading lots of stories on the effects of being an addicted gambler, I feel it's 100% possible to tell myself that I can never be addicted to gambling and won't ever get addicted.
If for instance, I decide that I'm only going to gamble once a week and that at each time I will only gamble with an amount like $20 based on my current financial strength, would I ever become addicted to gambling? Isn't it because you don't have any plan in place and just gamble as your spirit leads that makes you become careless with your gambling and become addicted to the process? Just want to ask this question;
Can you comfortably tell yourself that you have never been addicted to gambling and that you can never be addicted to gambling because of how you go about it?
If for instance, I decide that I'm only going to gamble once a week and that at each time I will only gamble with an amount like $20 based on my current financial strength, would I ever become addicted to gambling? Isn't it because you don't have any plan in place and just gamble as your spirit leads that makes you become careless with your gambling and become addicted to the process? Just want to ask this question;
Can you comfortably tell yourself that you have never been addicted to gambling and that you can never be addicted to gambling because of how you go about it?
I definitely agree that addiction is a choice, but I can also understand that someone deep in the grip of a gambling addiction can feel trapped. Often, the hardest thing for a gambler to contemplate is the fact that they have lost so much money and they are chasing losses, but making the problem even worse. When a gambler finally realizes how futile it is and accepts they will never earn money back that way, they will reach a form of acceptance which can be necessary to start the healing process. After that they need to break free of the habits that have formed and routines that can easily drag them back in again. You must identify the trigger points and be on guard for them early on.
Not many gamblers can set their limit in gambling because they get fun from the games. They also lose their control while gambling and makes them lose their money. If they still do the same thing, they will only becomes addicted to gambling and will still playing gambling without stops or reduce their gambling habit. That is because their minds is always thinks gambling for many times and trying to gambling often. However, when someone get fun from gambling he can lose their limitation anytime especially if he decide to deposit more money to continue gambling. That will not helps him to manage his money because he will insist to keeps gambling and we don't know what he chase.
I agree with you. People who are addicted to gambling, especially slot gambling, are because gambling will give you false hope. Someone loses their money because they lose in gambling, then they will be curious and will keep trying again. He thinks he can get his money back. I have a friend who has spent all his parents' assets on gambling. He thought if he was lucky he would be able to get his money back and pay off his debts. But until today he is still in debt because he is addicted to playing big bets.
I think it is very important for someone to control their emotions and do good management. Because trying not to get addicted is a difficult challenge.
Almost 90% of the people who have a thing against gambling do so because they feel that gambling is addictive. But come to think of it, isn't addiction a choice? After reading lots of stories on the effects of being an addicted gambler, I feel it's 100% possible to tell myself that I can never be addicted to gambling and won't ever get addicted.
You think so? it is not that easy my dear, and the wealth of information available as at the time of your involvement in gambling matters a lot. Myself never knew about gambling in moderation until I have become an addict and had to advise myself admis the destruction I did cause myself during my addiction periods.Peer pressure can also influence your good manners to gamble more like your friends and join them in addiction, I believe if you are a real gambler you would know that it takes more than mere talking to yourself to abstain from over-involvement in gambling. Good thing you can set a gambling budget and fund your account only with amounts you can afford to loose.
That is why it's important to set limit to gambling to maintain a healthy gambling lifestyle, one must not start noticing addiction before they could limiting themselves from gambling. When one is getting to nice and more attention to gambling then he should know that gradually they are getting closer to addiction but however, you already spoken it all because if someone doesn't want to becoming addicted he won't.
I agree with this idea it is important to set a limit when we are gambling and the limit should include both maximum wins limit and maximum loss limit. The amount can be whatever we wish depending on our financial strength or the money we allocate for gambling every month. It can be like this; Ill stop when i lose 100$ or 200$. Once it reaches the amount chosen then you stop, not minding the fact that you need to chase your loss by winning. You may choose to continue the next day. Also, in the case of maximum wins you may say, ill stop when i reach 200$ or 300$ profit the you stop immediately. Of course there might be chances that you would win more if you continue but there is still a chance that you may lose as well. So when we reach that limit we should always understand to stop gambling.
Exactly if the limits for the week is met or the funds allocated for the month is entirely exhausted then they could stop for the time being maybe when it's refilled again at the ending of the he could start by this there are lesser chance of becoming too routed and addicted to gamble but still attention must not be too focused on a particular thing than its important to set some other things between one someone to get attention diversified to other areas where it would be very difficult to get addicted as a gambler.
As for the two you suggested, they are well-known working plans and are not burdensome, but proof of maturity and discipline if one could do them with determination. I wonder what a gambler is still doing in the gambling house or with the online platform when the money earmarked for the session is exhausted, such has to work out or close the platform according to the preplanned calculations before the gambling starts. Again, it is the idle hands that are most emotional/addicted, every gambler must ensure that they have active engagement(s) that can distract them from gambling. This works a lot, especially if there are encouraging financial benefits from these distracting engagements and if it's much more time-consuming.
I used to wonder why people would stake huge amounts gambling and throwing their money away, I used to think they are insane. But when I got into the lifestyle I gradually became what I was criticizing. I understood what they were going through and the reason why you can get trapped in the endless loop of gambling and losing everything you have.. you are right addiction is a choice, but people get addicted to gambling for different reasons and you might ask why it's hard for them to stop, Once you are hooked in this lifestyle coming out of it won't be easy, but you must do your best to overcome it.
Someone who has fallen into a gambling addiction is indeed very difficult to think with common sense so it is not surprising that at that time you saw him like a crazy person, and that is true. Gamblers who are addicted sometimes no longer use their common sense, besides spending a lot of money on gambling, addicts will also get money to gamble in various ways, even committing crimes in order to gamble.It is no mistake that gambling addiction is a choice because of ourselves. It's just that people don't realize that it is their choice. Gambling never actually forces us to gamble, gambling is a choice but the problem is that we gamble without control and consider gambling as a quick access to wealth, This is one example that gambling is a choice. Yes, that's right. When you are trapped in an addiction, it is very difficult to get out of the situation, and even if it does work it takes a long time. Therefore, before falling into the wrong choice, it is better to avoid than to cure.
I do not entirely agree that the casino is the gambler’s choice, made exclusively by himself. We don't know all the mechanisms that marketers use to push us to one decision or another. And the promoters themselves know very well how to influence us, it’s not for nothing that they invest millions of dollars in the advertising industry. And even more so in gambling advertising.
Even during Prime Time in the country where I live they started showing bookmaker advertisements. There's no hiding from this...
Gamblers are playing inside the casino because they choose to, though there might be some who are only obliged by someone else. Gamblers are only a customer. They aren't the ones who created the casino but I think casino owners get an inspiration to them. It was like, long time ago, people are already gambling using different stuffs and later on it evolved. Now, we now have casinos and they are much better in terms of being entertained and being profitable. We now have the internet. There are lots of info that we can find here and there are lots of brands being advertised here.Even during Prime Time in the country where I live they started showing bookmaker advertisements. There's no hiding from this...
So, actually this made us familiar to it or the mechanism that they use on how they market their brands or products. Many of them are misleading but we are like a fool to still use them. Yet, we think they are still beneficial to us, so why not? If you hate gambling or you are simply annoyed about the gambling advertisements, I believe that there is still a way to dodge them. BTW, on what platform they are being broadcasted in your country? Was it in the Television? If yes, then don't watch TV or block that specific channel. If online, we can also install some blocker software.
It is no mistake that gambling addiction is a choice because of ourselves. It's just that people don't realize that it is their choice. Gambling never actually forces us to gamble, gambling is a choice but the problem is that we gamble without control and consider gambling as a quick access to wealth, This is one example that gambling is a choice. Yes, that's right. When you are trapped in an addiction, it is very difficult to get out of the situation, and even if it does work it takes a long time. Therefore, before falling into the wrong choice, it is better to avoid than to cure.
therefore the real mistake is made by the gambler himself. casinos only provide a place and interesting programs for gamblers. unfortunately, many gamblers become beyond their control when gambling gets worse. casinos cannot be blamed for the impact of gambling addiction that is getting bigger. all gamblers know that gambling has a risk where we can get addicted. and those who are not ready to gamble should never try, or everything they have can be lost. gamble when you are ready.Yup, casino owners provide the venue where you can do your gambling activities on how to use it, more on the gambler side, most of them get addicted as they can't control the emotions that develops inside them, the urge and the needs of pleasing their lust and the desire inside them is something that only them can stop.
It's always easy to start and enjoy but once you get addicted evertyhing will fall apart, it will sucked everything not just the money but more on your time and focus, that's really hard to control as it will keeps asking for more.
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It is no mistake that gambling addiction is a choice because of ourselves. It's just that people don't realize that it is their choice. Gambling never actually forces us to gamble, gambling is a choice but the problem is that we gamble without control and consider gambling as a quick access to wealth, This is one example that gambling is a choice. Yes, that's right. When you are trapped in an addiction, it is very difficult to get out of the situation, and even if it does work it takes a long time. Therefore, before falling into the wrong choice, it is better to avoid than to cure.
therefore the real mistake is made by the gambler himself. casinos only provide a place and interesting programs for gamblers. unfortunately, many gamblers become beyond their control when gambling gets worse. casinos cannot be blamed for the impact of gambling addiction that is getting bigger. all gamblers know that gambling has a risk where we can get addicted. and those who are not ready to gamble should never try, or everything they have can be lost. gamble when you are ready.That is what some gamblers don't want to take from professional gamblers that know how to gamble without addicted to gambling, but some of them just focus on the money people are making from gambling without considering the risk they have been taking to be able to achieve such results from gambling.
It is no mistake that gambling addiction is a choice because of ourselves. It's just that people don't realize that it is their choice. Gambling never actually forces us to gamble, gambling is a choice but the problem is that we gamble without control and consider gambling as a quick access to wealth, This is one example that gambling is a choice. Yes, that's right. When you are trapped in an addiction, it is very difficult to get out of the situation, and even if it does work it takes a long time. Therefore, before falling into the wrong choice, it is better to avoid than to cure.
therefore the real mistake is made by the gambler himself. casinos only provide a place and interesting programs for gamblers. unfortunately, many gamblers become beyond their control when gambling gets worse. casinos cannot be blamed for the impact of gambling addiction that is getting bigger. all gamblers know that gambling has a risk where we can get addicted. and those who are not ready to gamble should never try, or everything they have can be lost. gamble when you are ready.Yup, casino owners provide the venue where you can do your gambling activities on how to use it, more on the gambler side, most of them get addicted as they can't control the emotions that develops inside them, the urge and the needs of pleasing their lust and the desire inside them is something that only them can stop.
It's always easy to start and enjoy but once you get addicted evertyhing will fall apart, it will sucked everything not just the money but more on your time and focus, that's really hard to control as it will keeps asking for more.
I have the same opinion as you, I believe that no one wants to become a gambling addict because everyone is aware that addiction is never a good thing.
People don’t want to be gambling addicts, but they end up doing things that will make them addicted to gambling. If you start gambling for the sake of money, then you will end up being addicted to gambling, or chasing your losses. Gambling is supposed to be something we should do for fun, and we should have a budget for it. After exceeding our budget, we should stop gambling immediately. If you exceed your budget and decide to deposit more money, then you are already getting everything wrong, and you are likely going to become addicted if you don’t stop. If I remember correctly, we had a discussion thread about this, some people said that gambling can also be called investment and I strongly disagree with this thinking. Because of the misconception that gambling is to make money, many people have caused themselves gambling addiction. Not to mention, some people also think that we can consider it an investment as long as we only play with a small amount of capital and know how to stop at the right time. It's true that the plan sounds very good, but once our goal is profit, whether the amount is small or large, can we control ourselves when entering the game? Therefore, as long as we consider gambling as a place to make money, I think we will not be able to escape gambling addiction.
That is why it's important to set limit to gambling to maintain a healthy gambling lifestyle, one must not start noticing addiction before they could limiting themselves from gambling. When one is getting to nice and more attention to gambling then he should know that gradually they are getting closer to addiction but however, you already spoken it all because if someone doesn't want to becoming addicted he won't.
Not many gamblers can set their limit in gambling because they get fun from the games. They also lose their control while gambling and makes them lose their money. If they still do the same thing, they will only becomes addicted to gambling and will still playing gambling without stops or reduce their gambling habit. That is because their minds is always thinks gambling for many times and trying to gambling often. However, when someone get fun from gambling he can lose their limitation anytime especially if he decide to deposit more money to continue gambling. That will not helps him to manage his money because he will insist to keeps gambling and we don't know what he chase. 
It is no mistake that gambling addiction is a choice because of ourselves. It's just that people don't realize that it is their choice. Gambling never actually forces us to gamble, gambling is a choice but the problem is that we gamble without control and consider gambling as a quick access to wealth, This is one example that gambling is a choice. Yes, that's right. When you are trapped in an addiction, it is very difficult to get out of the situation, and even if it does work it takes a long time. Therefore, before falling into the wrong choice, it is better to avoid than to cure.
therefore the real mistake is made by the gambler himself. casinos only provide a place and interesting programs for gamblers. unfortunately, many gamblers become beyond their control when gambling gets worse. casinos cannot be blamed for the impact of gambling addiction that is getting bigger. all gamblers know that gambling has a risk where we can get addicted. and those who are not ready to gamble should never try, or everything they have can be lost. gamble when you are ready. 
That is why it's important to set limit to gambling to maintain a healthy gambling lifestyle, one must not start noticing addiction before they could limiting themselves from gambling. When one is getting to nice and more attention to gambling then he should know that gradually they are getting closer to addiction but however, you already spoken it all because if someone doesn't want to becoming addicted he won't.
I agree with this idea it is important to set a limit when we are gambling and the limit should include both maximum wins limit and maximum loss limit. The amount can be whatever we wish depending on our financial strength or the money we allocate for gambling every month. It can be like this; Ill stop when i lose 100$ or 200$. Once it reaches the amount chosen then you stop, not minding the fact that you need to chase your loss by winning. You may choose to continue the next day. Also, in the case of maximum wins you may say, ill stop when i reach 200$ or 300$ profit the you stop immediately. Of course there might be chances that you would win more if you continue but there is still a chance that you may lose as well. So when we reach that limit we should always understand to stop gambling.
Exactly if the limits for the week is met or the funds allocated for the month is entirely exhausted then they could stop for the time being maybe when it's refilled again at the ending of the he could start by this there are lesser chance of becoming too routed and addicted to gamble but still attention must not be too focused on a particular thing than its important to set some other things between one someone to get attention diversified to other areas where it would be very difficult to get addicted as a gambler.
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