Topic: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting - page 37. (Read 7608 times)

Using reminders on their phones can help warn gamblers to get ready to stop gambling. They must always follow or obey the rules they make so as not to gamble excessively and to reduce the risk of losing more money. But maybe not many gamblers use this reminder while gambling even though it is useful for them. Or maybe they have other ways to make them stay sober and stop immediately when gambling long enough.

If they can do it, it proves they are responsible gamblers. They don't have to worry about problems like gambling addiction because they can overcome them easily. They also have great self-control and not to be at gambling for a long time. And they also already know what the risks are if they play gambling for too long so they try to avoid it.

Do you believe that someone who has experienced the emotions of several defeats will be able to take advice from others or realize something better? Honestly, I don't believe that they can do that, because as we all know that it is very difficult to stop the emotions of losing when playing. I would add that if there is someone accompanying them while gambling, in addition to the person suggesting to stop they should also include some of the conditions experienced by other gamblers where they are very down with losing everything and may be stressed out. So by telling them some of the negative effects that their friends can experience then maybe it will indirectly deter them a little and stop doing it right away, they will divert their emotions to other things.

And it is also very appropriate if they already get the winnings then they make a withdrawal and go to an entertainment venue to enjoy the winnings, it is better than you lose it by returning to gambling.

But all people or individuals can control themselves before falling into it, that's why I always think it all depends on their mindset even though they gamble in the long term but they gamble just to find entertainment and enjoy the game they cannot be called addicts because of course they can stop at any time, while gamblers who make money from gambling in the long term can definitely be called addicts because it is difficult to stop it.

So far I just think that as long as everything is under proper control and stay in a healthy mindset, it will definitely be fine, I often say this in several threads that gambling is provided for us to have fun and seek happiness by enjoying the game, just like you will pay a little for entertainment, but people always think of gambling as a source of income that finally makes people obsessed with getting rich from gambling in the end they don't get it. you could say they are like addicts so they understand this gambling too deeply. changing mindset is the way out

You are right, mate. The way some people carry out their daily budget and spending will determine how they handle their financial management while gambling. Logically, anyone who lacks proper financial managerial skill will possibly not be cautious about spending on gambling; they are those gamblers who only realise themselves when they have spent all their money on gambling. Some gamblers can only prevent themselves from going so deep if they really had self-control right from the beginning when they started gambling. I was also suggesting that one can probably just set a reminder on their phone when they want to start gambling. They can set a reminder to ring like 30 minutes after they have started gambling, so that the reminder will warn them to make sure they are not wagering more than X amount.

I agree with that,  individual differences and ability differs and I have seen some folks who have strict measures that guide they gambling activities for a long term base,  and they formulated the characteristic and have being abiding by it by all means and it result is significantly showing in their way of life since the can be seen not to have overly gone into excessive/uncontrollable gambling, or haven't slid into excessive gambling,  but maintaining a balanced ground and putting everything under check.

But not all persons or individuals can develop such self-restriction and follow-up checks,  many who try that pattern of gambling have mostly fallen into deep addictions at the moment.

It is very easy to advise a gambler to have a budget and stick to his budget but it is very difficult to actualize in real life. Even in our daily life enevious, you will understand that most of us do not have budget of spending. We just spend unnecessarily and anywhere the money exhaust will will take a rest. If someone doesn't stick to budget in their ordinary life, how do you expect the person to now have a budget and stick to it during gambling?

Things are very clear when people start to play, it is the money of those people and they only know how they should spend it, there is no way that one as a friend gets in and tells them how to play, or how they have what to bet, when it comes to people, their way of playing is somewhat delicate, advice can be given, it can be said, not to make such High bets so that you do not lose so much, but that is delicate, there are people who can bet say something, that they accept it, that if they lose they won't blame them because they miscontracted it , but if they win they will Continue to make their big Bets.

A person has his way of thinking, of analyzing, of seeing how far he can spend a good part of his money, according to this we can say that many things can be done as long as things are done with great moderation and not spend all the money, but in a casino someone's limits may be very different from mine, and it may be that the limits of other people are much further than ours and that makes a difference, because a person who allows himself spend a lot of money and it doesn't affect him, at least I can't do that, the limits are lower than those of that person, for that reason I have always said that when a person bets, sometimes he takes another type of chance, like that change and oppose acting differently.

Now, I can have self-control and I can go to the casino with a friend, and that friend always goes beyond the bets, and he is not a person who has a very good economic situation, because he can work a month , but if we go to a casino, he is capable of spending what he won in the month at that moment in the casino, with him he was the one who took me to a casino the first time, which his compensation was the same, I classify him as an Addict , but he harms himself, because when he runs out of money, then I don't know how he does it, so when you play as a good friend he tells you not to bet too much, to bet little, but he is one of those people who gets very excited and bets big, and another thing I saw, is that he doesn't have good luck, that's why when he goes to the casino with him, he always loses and it's difficult because those Types of people don't Stop Playing.

I could say that these pieces of advice are good, if you don't have a friend called pro-telfir with someone accompanied, it's possible, and explain to him that if he gets carried away by the emotions of the game that he tries to stop it and come to his senses, it's Difficult when the game is very advanced and you have money to bet, another measure may be that when you are winning a reasonable part, do not continue playing but withdraw, because after you win it is very easy to lose what you have won plus what you had to win It is better to leave with good profits and not leave empty , Empty pockets is something very sad and even Less to Leave a casino like this.

It is in my personal believe that gambling for a long time or long term as you put it, does not change anything in the life of the gambler necessarily, like, it does not generally make gamblers lose his or her senses as you stated, it all depends on who is gambling and the mindset  of that person or gambler, i for myself have friends who have been gambling for several years now, they have their day jobs they go to, some are working in a company while others are running a business, and gambling for them have always been like a side hustle and one way to just have fun, most especially on weekends..

This is not to say that you are entirely wrong though , at least , i know that long term gambling can make someone forget themselves and become addicted, but like ive said, it depends on who is gambling and the kind or type of mindset they have.

Gamblers must take a break ‍at times against gambling. Even a successful gambler can lose his wealth in long term gambling. Before gambling a gambler should be carefully observed about his new bet. But when ‍a gambler engages in long-term gambling, he may lose normal gambling sense. That's why if you stay away from gambling for some times, you can stay away from such problems. I also applaud his taking temporary break from gambling so that he can get the strength to gamble more in the future.

You have said it all mate @paxmao, lack of budget has made so many Gambler spend money carelessly and the only way to quit careless money spending is by having a budget and to be disciplined as well, been on drugs while going to gamble is bad, it can make us lose control over anything at anytime same as alcohol, losing money while on drugs is different from losing money on gamble hall without being on drugs.

I got your view, being undisciplined can occur at any settings be it in gambling or on other field that has to involve people relating to each other, which could also qonote that gambling is but the highest order of where indiscipline can be achieved, people set the pace for being disciplined in their own capacity to avoid any unnecessary impression below the expected target they so desired to arrived at, we need to call ourselves back to order if we noticed strange behaviors in our gambling experience, take an effective control measures and make moves to apply them as rescue, this may not have to be with gamblers alone, anyone can fall a victim and we can observe this before things get outrageous.

I do understand you and your point in this matter just that we do not totally aligned in some part of your submission. We can both agree that there is a big difference between a disciplined gambler and an undisciplined gambler.
That gamble that is discipline will always know when to stop gambling for that particular day. He will also know how much attention to give gambling and how much to give his work and family he will set out budget such that whenever the budget is exhausted, he will stop. But there is another level of discipline which I have also highlighted because you mentioned gambling is for entertainment. So a highly disciplined man should rather look for other ways to entertain himself rather than gambling. @Fredomago understood me better.

You are correct mister, lack of discipline in a man's life is not right at all, a man must have some discipline not only because of gambling but in everything he does, what doesn't require discipline anyway? It's the same reason my father used to say that your downfall begins when you allow someone else to handle your business for you.

Even if they don't steal from you, they still can't manage your business as you would, and to become a successful businessman you need to be disciplined, whatever plans or strategies you have in mind will become successful only with discipline.

Some people doesnt really welcome nor really have that kind of personality which do loves on hearing out other peoples suggestion when it comes to spending their own money. You would really be having those main

thoughts on "who the hell are you on stopping me on what i do?". This would be the main line that would be printed out on your mind and this is why its really that something useless if you do make out some advises into those people who are already addicted to gambling.Some might listen but majority of them would really be definitely be trying out to play no matter what other people would be saying. You should really be setting out the limits no matter what because if you arent really that good when it comes to this then most likely you would really be going into the path where addiction is really that severe.

Gambling isnt bad as long you are doing it moderately, things becomes messy if you are going into the path on which treating up gambling just some sort of money making machine or making it as an income.
You would definitely be putting yourself on huge trouble.

All the opinions point to the same thing, if there is not enough will, the bears get out of control, there is no way that one, as a friend of a person who drives his own money, intervenes and tells him not to crawl anymore, because things They are not like that , you reach a point where you can give advice, but the money belongs to that person, the bad thing is that when you get to the point that you are winning a lot of money, and that you continue to play and bet a lot, you have to stop, and it sounds pretty That's bad, but it's the best, because casinos have that peculiarity that makes you think you're going to keep winning and when you see it, it's that you no longer have anything, and that feeling is what drives you to fall into addiction to take that money you I was winning before.

Discipline is at different levels. And as you also noted it is based on individual differences. Someone who is very disciplined can gamble as long as they want without being addicted. Which means they are either sticking to their budget or decision. But someone whose disciplines is not mature can easily be influenced by colleagues or peer groups to change their decisions.
Meanwhile, a disciplined someone will actually know when they are getting addicted and withdrawal from intensive gambling. It doesn’t even take discipline to do that, rather it takes conscience.

I agree that there are many people which are very disciplined by nature but still they are engaged in gambling activities because they find gambling as a way of entertainment. The only difference between those disciplined gamblers vs the undisciplined ones it that the disciplined ones always try their best to do gambling activities when they have completed their work and they also make low bets just to enjoy gambling as a fun activity.

The undisciplined gamblers on other hand try to make very high value bets and as a process they end up loosing everything they have. The undisciplined gamblers are most prone to getting addicted to gambling because they get so indulged into the activity that they forget about their work and family life. That's why a disciplined gambler doesn't need to end up gambling because he/she is only doing it as a fun activity and gambling isn't affecting his/her life in any adverse way.

@Zoomic, don't get it wrong first, being self disciplined does not mean you should not engage in gambling, also not all gamblers are undisciplined, we have people that doesn't gamble but have the highest order of indiscipline, this is an individual responsibility to take care of, if you think you want to gamble, you can chose to have a disciplined lifestyle with your gambling or not to, also for every undiscipline gambler comes addiction following, because they will always want to behave the way they want at any cost not minding what others may say.

That is why we must have good self-control so that we are not careless and instead play gambling at will and do not pay attention to the limits. This causes many gamblers to lose large amounts of money, but they still don't realize it. If we can see and think about how much money we have used for gambling, we should stop and rest to reduce stress after playing. It is also useful for us to see what we can do so that our minds can be distracted by doing other things.