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He is a good player even in Liverpool but it is Salah who taking more glory than him, he deserves to leave go get a fresh air and get recognition for his labour. At home, mane is very well appreciated among those youths and people

I expect that soon Sadio Mane will have offers from bigger clubs after his victorious outing at the AFCON. I expect that to happen. He has to leave Liverpool FC to become bigger in fame. Back home in Senegal, he is well loved because of the way he sympathises with the lack and poverty of his people. He plans to make life better for them at the risk of living a more luxurious lifestyle like other footballers. That makes his people love him even more.

Sadio mane is a talented player, even as he is still a Liverpool player he is still recognised, the reason why salah takes more glory from fans is because salah is old in the game of football, but with time sadio mane will reign it is just the matter of time. Going for a new club is not what will make the talented player to be more recognised , consistency and as time goes on will bring more glory.

I don't think looking for a new club to be famous is the right thing. Many great players just because they want to be the main character in a club, many end up being in vain, lack of expertise to destroy their own career. Examples like Coutinho and Neymar, you can see how now Coutinho and Neymar's prestige has faded after they left the club that raised them. so my advice stay in Liverpool, sadio mane is as great as wrong.

What happens is that Neymar Jr next to Messi and Mbappé know something else, I think that any player could feel confident, however Messi has been harshly criticized by many seeing that Mbappé saves his life in games, Mane is a player exceptional, although I think that the Africa League should be strengthened more, as Balotelli said, it would be great if at least 5 new world-class stadiums were built in Africa so that the African League is quite showy, so the African players would not have to go to Europe nor go through racist chants, this would be great, at least I really like the football of Senegal, Nigeria, Cameroon, Ghana...

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I don't think they can scrap Egypt once more.
I know it's a fifty fifty chance for that game.
At the end of the game will surely decide, Salah will be back for a possible revenge.

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What's best for him if not Liverpool ?
Sadio Mane has given he's best for the club, he has represented very well.
I know they're gonna try hard to remove Egypt once more from the World Cup qualifies.

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He is a good player even in Liverpool but it is Salah who taking more glory than him, he deserves to leave go get a fresh air and get recognition for his labour. At home, mane is very well appreciated among those youths and people

I expect that soon Sadio Mane will have offers from bigger clubs after his victorious outing at the AFCON. I expect that to happen. He has to leave Liverpool FC to become bigger in fame. Back home in Senegal, he is well loved because of the way he sympathises with the lack and poverty of his people. He plans to make life better for them at the risk of living a more luxurious lifestyle like other footballers. That makes his people love him even more.

Sadio mane is a talented player, even as he is still a Liverpool player he is still recognised, the reason why salah takes more glory from fans is because salah is old in the game of football, but with time sadio mane will reign it is just the matter of time. Going for a new club is not what will make the talented player to be more recognised , consistency and as time goes on will bring more glory.

I don't think looking for a new club to be famous is the right thing. Many great players just because they want to be the main character in a club, many end up being in vain, lack of expertise to destroy their own career. Examples like Coutinho and Neymar, you can see how now Coutinho and Neymar's prestige has faded after they left the club that raised them. so my advice stay in Liverpool, sadio mane is as great as wrong.

Liverpool is the best place sadio mane should be , he is good player and Liverpool is good club that can make him to be well known. To me I still see sadio mene as one of the best player in his club. This tournament Senegal won will also make him to be well popular too.

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Quote from: gantez on February 16, 2022, 09:02:14 AM

He is a good player even in Liverpool but it is Salah who taking more glory than him, he deserves to leave go get a fresh air and get recognition for his labour. At home, mane is very well appreciated among those youths and people

I expect that soon Sadio Mane will have offers from bigger clubs after his victorious outing at the AFCON. I expect that to happen. He has to leave Liverpool FC to become bigger in fame. Back home in Senegal, he is well loved because of the way he sympathises with the lack and poverty of his people. He plans to make life better for them at the risk of living a more luxurious lifestyle like other footballers. That makes his people love him even more.

Sadio mane is a talented player, even as he is still a Liverpool player he is still recognised, the reason why salah takes more glory from fans is because salah is old in the game of football, but with time sadio mane will reign it is just the matter of time. Going for a new club is not what will make the talented player to be more recognised , consistency and as time goes on will bring more glory.

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Quote from: Cookdata on February 19, 2022, 01:35:02 PM

who knows by the next Afcon Mane would want to retire. : This will not be

I don't think mane will be old not to play in the next Afcon cup next tournament that is next two years. Mane is 29 years now, he was born in April 10, 1992, so he will be 31 by that time and we have older players still on the pitch like mercy, and Christian Ronald.

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In the finals as well, Senegal outplayed the Egyptian. Egypt just have a good history of goal keepers that's their luck for staying in the competition. When the world cup qualifiers will be played, senagal is likely going to out play the Egyptian as well. On and off paper, they have better team structure than the Egyptians.

Yes judging with the last match, that is the final, Senegal was far ahead of the Egyptians in both ball possession, scoring chances and target. They are the true champions that defeated Egypt.

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Quote from: Maestro75 on February 19, 2022, 03:09:46 AM

Naturally anyone who does not like cheating will want Egypt to take a revenge on Senegal for denying them the trophy. All that is sentiment though. If Egypt does not get fully prepared for the world cup qualifiers to confront the superior Senegal, Senegal will still shame them again both home and away.

I don't understand, are you trying to say Senegal stole the trophy from Egypt, did you even watch the tournament or watch the finals. All through Senegal were the better team. Egypt were even luck they had the technical team researching on the Cameroonian players and gave the goal keeper the potential corners the players were to play the penalty. They used that technique to win the Cameroonian in the shoot out, without that they shouldn't even be in the finals.

In the finals as well, Senegal outplayed the Egyptian. Egypt just have a good history of goal keepers that's their luck for staying in the competition. When the world cup qualifiers will be played, senagal is likely going to out play the Egyptian as well. On and off paper, they have better team structure than the Egyptians.

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Unfortunately, present day Football is about Goal numbers and popularity and doesn't look into the other contributions the player makes in the team. It why we barely see any deep sitting midfielder or defender winning any accolades like Balon D'or or AFCON player of the year.

Otherwise, Sadio Mane is a very excellent and valuable player who deserves some recognition.

Not all the time that players are bought over because of goals that they score. Some players got sign up for many reasons either some for contribution, that others for assist like mane is doing in Liverpool, not only the amount of goals that the player score because not only strickers get new contract from other clubs.
And some times the players star won't shine if they remain in one club for a long time, I expect that Salah will got hot and attractive bid in the transfer window.

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Egypt was lucky to have ended the AFCON in a penalty shoot out and still lost after all. Senegal would defeat Egypt with a clear margin because Egypt lack the squad to hold down senegal not even for a draw Mane would do what didn't have the chance to do against Egypt. Its only Salah i am seeing in Egypt and him alone can't move the team

Being prepared is different from Luck. Go and check the table and history, Egypt is very well known for winning AFCON 7 times, in fact, no country in Africa has done it the way Egypt has won but as I said, in football, as you have said it was luck but saying they lack the squad, it does fit Egypt players because they tried their best that day.
It was a first for Senegal, they can enjoy it for now, who knows by the next Afcon Mane would want to retire. Tongue

Egypt doesn't have the most skilled players as a whole, but besides having a tier 1 player that is Salah, they are also a very strategical and organized team. And that is the reason they managed passing so many challenges at african cup, defeating stronger teams and reaching the finals. Moreover, the final game wasn't an easy one for Senegal. That match was unpredictable until the end exactly like the next game between Senegal and Egypt is also going to be. I don't underestimate Egypt. If they repeat their performance on the next match, but being a little more lucky this time, it's perfectly possible to overcome Senegal.

If possible, they shouldn't try pushing the game to the penalties, because that is too risky against aggressive goalscorers such as the senegalese.

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Senegal and Egypt again, that means this time Senegal will go home because Egypt is not suppose to allow Senegal to defeat again from world cup qualifiers, mane and Salah. Over Nigerian and Ghana, both teams are strong enough, but at looking from Africa world performance, Nigeria tried and Nigeria was expectations of people to win the cup, but i can't guarantee Nigeria over Ghana because i believe that Ghana will use the same method Tunisia apply to defeat Nigeria and defeat them for this world qualifiers cup

Two teams who are equally favorites to both walk into the world cup as representatives of Africa must beat each other in the play-off round, according to my prediction this time Egypt has a great chance to advance to the world cup, because Egypt must have learned from yesterday's defeat and will overhauling their pattern of play, with a meeting between the two countries it is certain that one of them will be absent from this year's Qatar world cup.

@ropyu1978 I agree with your analysis that Egypt would want to extract revenge, and the only way to do it is to dump Senegal from the play off round. Furthermore as I had said before and I’ll repeat again that Salah will have to rise up and make sure Egypt win, because if he doesn’t perform well then it’ll be very difficult for Egypt to win against Senegal.

Egypt has a very big advantage, and they have Salah, he is a very complete player and at any moment he can define a match, however I don't see it being that difficult to take out Senegal, although Senegal has World Cup experience they can apply it to be able to have a higher rate of effectiveness, although for me the best team in Africa has always been Nigeria, because just remembering that they had Samuel Etó, it was a pleasure to see the happy football they showed, so I think that Senegal has its style of football very well defined, while Egypt is establishing itself so far with quite a mix of football thanks to its variety of players with different technique.

The world cup play-off match between Senegal vs Egypt may be a very hot match that we will see in the struggle for a ticket to the Qatar world cup this season, so automatically we cannot see one of the stars who will take part in the four-year event where both players between Sadio Mane and Mohamed Salah, it is certain that they will miss defending their country in the World Cup because they have to kill each other in the playoffs to fight for a ticket to Qatar this season, with the absence of one of the players who competed in the African Cup final a few weeks ago.it is certainly very important. It's a shame because they have strong enough potential to compete in the four-year event

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Quote from: Alisha-k on February 14, 2022, 11:16:11 AM

Egypt was lucky to have ended the AFCON in a penalty shoot out and still lost after all. Senegal would defeat Egypt with a clear margin because Egypt lack the squad to hold down senegal not even for a draw Mane would do what didn't have the chance to do against Egypt. Its only Salah i am seeing in Egypt and him alone can't move the team

Being prepared is different from Luck. Go and check the table and history, Egypt is very well known for winning AFCON 7 times, in fact, no country in Africa has done it the way Egypt has won but as I said, in football, as you have said it was luck but saying they lack the squad, it does fit Egypt players because they tried their best that day.
It was a first for Senegal, they can enjoy it for now, who knows by the next Afcon Mane would want to retire. Tongue

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Quote from: swogerino on February 19, 2022, 03:12:45 AM

I think it was just a bad luck episode that made Nigeria go out of the tournament against Tunisia,sure they couldn't respond back but that was because after they were hit with the goal psychologically it impacted the game of Nigeria against Tunisia in the remaining minutes.I think they learned something from this,now against Ghana in the qualifiers I think there will be no problem whatsoever for them to get the victory and the much needed three points.

They had just a single game plan for that game, did you notice Tunisia played both defender's on the right wing.
Two right full backs was fielded to mark Simon Moses, he should at least switch down to the middle of the field to recieve passes.
Swears I was very pain from that game, the Villarreal super star Chukwueze was also not bad but he's presence wasn't felt on the pitch.
We should have been winners of the tournament if we had surpassed that stage, imagine Egypt we won comfortably played the finals.

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Quote from: swogerino on February 19, 2022, 03:12:45 AM

I think it was just a bad luck episode that made Nigeria go out of the tournament against Tunisia,sure they couldn't respond back but that was because after they were hit with the goal psychologically it impacted the game of Nigeria against Tunisia in the remaining minutes.I think they learned something from this,now against Ghana in the qualifiers I think there will be no problem whatsoever for them to get the victory and the much needed three points.

I think the main reason reason why Nigeria lose to Tunisia was because they understand estimated Tunisia they believe Tunisia won't be a problem to them. Tunisia struggled before they qualified from group stage, after the knock out stage fixture was out I knew Tunisia will definitely give Nigeria a tough time because from the history, Tunisia is always giving Nigeria tough time.

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I think it was just a bad luck episode that made Nigeria go out of the tournament against Tunisia,sure they couldn't respond back but that was because after they were hit with the goal psychologically it impacted the game of Nigeria against Tunisia in the remaining minutes.I think they learned something from this,now against Ghana in the qualifiers I think there will be no problem whatsoever for them to get the victory and the much needed three points.

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Quote from: Issa56 on February 18, 2022, 07:00:07 PM

From my own perspective I believe Egypt will try all there possible best to win Senegal, I believe Salah will do everything possible so that Senegal won't defeat them because it will be a shame to Egypt to be beaten by a team twice consecutively.

Naturally anyone who does not like cheating will want Egypt to take a revenge on Senegal for denying them the trophy. All that is sentiment though. If Egypt does not get fully prepared for the world cup qualifiers to confront the superior Senegal, Senegal will still shame them again both home and away.

Quote from: Issa56 on February 18, 2022, 07:00:07 PM

And Nigeria vs Ghana I don't think Ghana should be a problem to Nigeria, we all saw how Nigeria performed in the last African cup of nation even as the lose to Tunisia in the knockout stage but they really performed well in the group stage.

I do not know what to expect with that fixture. Nigeria did not impress me at the AFCON. Yes it defeated Ghana and won all three matches at the group stage but could not make it pass a less favoured Tunisian side with all its shortcomings. And now that the bench is wrongly constituted with Austine Eguavoen heading a better qualified Emmanuel Amunike, I hope there will not be authority tussle during the qualifiers. I know Amunike is coolheaded but anything can still happen to make him disagree with Eguavoen and that will bring division in the camp. For Nigeria-Ghana match, no expectation.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on February 14, 2022, 07:10:07 AM

Egypt wanting to have their revenge on Senegal will not be enough, they will have to play better and play to win because if it is in their plan again to drag the games to penalty, i don't think it is a good plan, I still think Senegal if they play with same squad that played in the finals should win this.

Nigeria and Ghana game is quite tricky to predict, we all know ghana didn't have a good run in the AFCON and have coaching/technical challenges, they just appointed Otto Addo as interim for the games against Nigeria, he may want to impress. However i still wish the super eagles well.

I predict Cameroon to qualify as well, i would love to see Aboubakar and Ekambi at the world cup battling for top scorers.

From my own perspective I believe Egypt will try all there possible best to win Senegal, I believe Salah will do everything possible so that Senegal won't defeat them because it will be a shame to Egypt to be beaten by a team twice consecutively.
And Nigeria vs Ghana I don't think Ghana should be a problem to Nigeria, we all saw how Nigeria performed in the last African cup of nation even as the lose to Tunisia in the knockout stage but they really performed well in the group stage. Ghana did not really perform well in the entire competition which with there new coach I believe he won't really have understand the player's very well which is giving the super Eagles opportunity.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on February 18, 2022, 04:41:46 PM

Egypt has a very big advantage, and they have Salah

although for me the best team in Africa has always been Nigeria, because just remembering that they had Samuel Etó,

Egypt don't have any advantage over senagal, go back to the AFCON matches and see how senagal got the finals and how Egypt got there as well. Collectively the senagal team are better than that of the Egyptian. All or majority of the players in the senagal teams has European experience as they play in top clubs but that can't be said about the Egyptian teams. Yes Egypt has No Salah but he's just like Messi when it come to international competition, Mo Salah has never won the AFCON although Egypt as a nation has won it 7 times.

Samuel Eto isn't a Nigerian although the name sounds Nigerian, he's from Cameroon and a great player. Nigeria is just like Belgium/England in Europe, they're favorite to win all competition because of the squad the possess but always fails to win. They did play a beautiful football in the group stages of the AFCON and I hope they defeat Ghana to qualify for the world cup tournament.

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Senegal and Egypt again, that means this time Senegal will go home because Egypt is not suppose to allow Senegal to defeat again from world cup qualifiers, mane and Salah. Over Nigerian and Ghana, both teams are strong enough, but at looking from Africa world performance, Nigeria tried and Nigeria was expectations of people to win the cup, but i can't guarantee Nigeria over Ghana because i believe that Ghana will use the same method Tunisia apply to defeat Nigeria and defeat them for this world qualifiers cup

Two teams who are equally favorites to both walk into the world cup as representatives of Africa must beat each other in the play-off round, according to my prediction this time Egypt has a great chance to advance to the world cup, because Egypt must have learned from yesterday's defeat and will overhauling their pattern of play, with a meeting between the two countries it is certain that one of them will be absent from this year's Qatar world cup.

@ropyu1978 I agree with your analysis that Egypt would want to extract revenge, and the only way to do it is to dump Senegal from the play off round. Furthermore as I had said before and I’ll repeat again that Salah will have to rise up and make sure Egypt win, because if he doesn’t perform well then it’ll be very difficult for Egypt to win against Senegal.

Egypt has a very big advantage, and they have Salah, he is a very complete player and at any moment he can define a match, however I don't see it being that difficult to take out Senegal, although Senegal has World Cup experience they can apply it to be able to have a higher rate of effectiveness, although for me the best team in Africa has always been Nigeria, because just remembering that they had Samuel Etó, it was a pleasure to see the happy football they showed, so I think that Senegal has its style of football very well defined, while Egypt is establishing itself so far with quite a mix of football thanks to its variety of players with different technique.

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Quote from: logfiles on February 16, 2022, 07:27:15 PM

Unfortunately, present day Football is about Goal numbers and popularity and doesn't look into the other contributions the player makes in the team. It why we barely see any deep sitting midfielder or defender winning any accolades like Balon D'or or AFCON player of the year.

Otherwise, Sadio Mane is a very excellent and valuable player who deserves some recognition.

Luka Modrić won the balon D'or and other major awards without been the highest goals scorer and Messi wins this awards as well without been the highest goal scorer. If you put effort into you play, you can be rewarded. It feels like everybody plays for Mo Salah in Liverpool. Everytime they try to get the ball to him just as he's been fed the ball in the Egypt national team. Mane needs to go fund some other clubs he won't be overshadow by Mo Salah if he wants to b considered the best player from African.

Competition are good for the sports but when it comes to Mo Salah and Mane because they're both in the same team, it's hard to compare or Mo Salah directly get the advantage because the statistics flavors him but assumings Mane was in other team, he could have had the advantage.

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Quote from: gantez on February 16, 2022, 09:02:14 AM

He is a good player even in Liverpool but it is Salah who taking more glory than him, he deserves to leave go get a fresh air and get recognition for his labour. At home, mane is very well appreciated among those youths and people but there is a good effort he is doing with Liverpool but yet not have that recognition so if he leaves he can take himself to the top career

Unfortunately, present day Football is about Goal numbers and popularity and doesn't look into the other contributions the player makes in the team. It why we barely see any deep sitting midfielder or defender winning any accolades like Balon D'or or AFCON player of the year.

Otherwise, Sadio Mane is a very excellent and valuable player who deserves some recognition.

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