Topic: AI Spam Report Reference Thread - page 2. (Read 21826 times)

Come on give him a break [up to you though].

I had a chat with the user, he is new to the environment. English is not his native language too. So he said he used AI. I suggested him to edit texts to make them meaningful, correct sentence formatting then to post. It's not always easy for local speakers/writers to create English text.

The user is representing a business so it's not that their goal is to spam the forum but to communicate with potential customers.

Consider it a vouch from me for them.

I noticed a suspicious user today, who has also recently changed email address, perhaps someone else could also take a look, I don't have any more credits left on Originality and Winston, so this is the only one I could check. Only few of them look suspicious and not all of them. The user has literally thousands of posts, more than most established members have.

User: kotajikikox

Post 1.

Winston and Originality results:

In your image, you just took 1 sentence from the post and pasted it 3 times. The sentence itself is obviously NOT AI because AI wouldn't mistake the word "proof" with "prove", which is what its supposed to be.

As a reminder, please adhere to the following guidelines, which are outlined in the OP, before making a report:

- post 3 instances of posts by the same user, where
- at least 2 detectors give a result of 70%+ AI

If a user has previously been identified as using AI in this thread, then its OK to include only 1-2 of their posts in a follow-up report.

Kindly go through all my posts and you will understand that my use of English language is quite polished, I don't have a need to use AI to enhance my grammatical structures. I read a lot and knows how to structure the contents of my posts, even though I can't claim to be perfect. So I can assure you that I'm an original person and every posts that I make on this forum, including this one are constructed by me without the aid of a second or third party.

Thanks for pointing out my mistake of misspelling "Gensler", remember that nobody is above mistake. I will go to edit and correctt it immediately.

I'm not quite sure to be honest, I'm getting mixed results, some posts might look a little suspicious, but others do not. I'm quoting one, which might also be plagiarism as well which is why it was caught? This case requires more attention, and so far, I haven't found anything significant to report.
This post initially shows as 22% AI on Winston.ai, but after a few corrections it shows 97%.

I'm also intrigued, why did you create an alt to post this?

Another merit hunter, grammatically all his post seems likely created with AI tool with word mixers to create humanize text but came to my radar when he wrote "Gary Gender" insted the current SEc chairman "Gary Gensler", which i underlined and bold below in his quote.

User: Ishicryptic


When i copied his text to check whether those words are written with the help of Ai or not but results came up with humanize text but meanwhile i also checked above underlined & bold sentence breaking by one sentence into three segments to meet the requirement for ZeroGpt and then the result shows up as below.

https://i.ibb.co/7GJFjpQ/IMG-20241114-WA0000.jpg

 

The user Yatsan has been kicked out as promised - at Stake we have zero tolerance for AI usage as they're cancer to discussion and to what we represent. Thanks everyone for your inputs.

He is probably doing the smartest thing that he can do now, to keep low and hope that it passes. 

If he starts defending himself, this will just cause more people calling him out, pulling out his old posts etc. As we've seen many times, it usually doesn't end up well for those actively defending themselves.

What I can see over the years is that you favor quantity over quality, and that you have a very high tolerance for the things we are talking about here. When it is discovered that someone is abusing their position in a sig campaign in this way, and the company does nothing (for now), then the legitimate question arises as to why you tolerate such behavior. Besides that, @Yatsan doesn't even try to defend himself, which casts even more doubt on the whole thing.

That's all I have to say on this topic because we're going OT.

The neutral tag is appropriate; theymos opposes using red for post-related offences. The only disadvantage of the neutral tag is that it is mostly used for so many innocent notes that campaign managers no longer care to look at them. Giving red for offences like this will devalue the red tag even more than it already is.

If they continue to use AI, they will eventually be banned or tired of posting without incentives and leave the forum... 

The user has already been neutral tagged, not sure if a negative one would be more appropriate. Which campaign would hire him at this point? No reputable managers would go through the trouble after this incident. Correct me if I'm wrong.

P.S Although we've seen plenty of spam posters on previous campaigns such as Bitvest or Eloncoin if you remember them.

There's literally no excuse for AI usage, the user will be removed, the only problem is they will keep shit posting with or without our sig till the next available campaign.


Isn't Stake too big to start buying puppet accounts for promotion? It's not necessary.

@Ultegra134, you must know that those who are behind everything communicate one thing in public and something completely different in private. The fact that after everything you exposed they still consider that AI spammer a valuable member of their sig campaign speaks for itself how much they care about having first-class AI spammers in the campaign or legitimate users who create their own posts using only their brains.

This leads me to the next thought, which is that the @Yatsan account may have just been bought by the Stake team to do what it is doing right now - and you don't give up such an investment so easily. However, it is something that would be more appropriate to discuss (if someone thinks there is a need) in a new topic.

This goes towards Stake management and to @Igebotz because he replied earlier. Of course, it's not intended to be a personal attack, but it actually got me wondering about Stake's management; after this, I'm going to drop this case here. You mentioned that you no longer tolerate spam on Stake; however, Yatsan got a simple pat in the back: a user who has been proven to be using a sold account back in 2019, has been using AI for months, and you've paid him for it, yet he still remains in the campaign, and his only repercussion is a warning on the rating sheet (one being "suspected AI usage") and not being paid for the previous week. (His post rating was 7.2 and 7.1, only Bere gave him a lower score of 6.1)

On top of that, he still continues to spam the forum, making posts every 20 to 30 minutes in between, which isn't a major issue if he wasn't posting gibberish, and also continues using megaquotes, quoting several members in a single reply, which is annoying to even look at.

Letting a user who has been using AI for months, and I can easily prove that it didn't suddenly happen in the last few weeks, remain on a campaign notorious for having many participants who had contributed to the spam issue in the past, is like giving the green light to AI usage and spam. Trust me, some users may get away with it; he was running his scheme for months; it's possible that he's not the only one.

On top of that, he hasn't even taken accountability for his actions and continues to post like nothing happened. He could have at least explained himself, even though there's nothing to explain.

3-post newbie, all are ChatGPT... he picked the wrong topic to post in... I recognized the smell of ChatGPT's stinky humor from a mile away.

reverseHooligan

#1


Hivemoderation: 99.9% likely to contain AI Generated Text
Sapling.ai: 100% Fake

#2


Hivemoderation: 99.9% likely to contain AI Generated Text
Sapling.ai: 100% Fake

#3


Hivemoderation: 71.4% likely to contain AI Generated Text
Sapling.ai: 100% Fake

niyvi


Hivemoderation 99.9% likely to contain AI Generated Text
Copyleaks AI Content Detected
Sapling.ai Fake: Fake: 99.5%


Hivemoderation 99.9% likely to contain AI Generated Text
Copyleaks AI Content Detected
Sapling.ai Fake: Fake: 99.5%


Hivemoderation 99.9% likely to contain AI Generated Text
Copyleaks AI Content Detected
Sapling.ai Fake: Fake: 100%


Hivemoderation 99.9% likely to contain AI Generated Text
Copyleaks AI Content Detected
Sapling.ai Fake: Fake: 97.2%

I've also noticed a few of those profiles (those with the numbers in the end) that created spam megathreads in which Yatsan was often posting. I wouldn't be surprised if he purposely created new topics through the alt accounts in an attempt to create more content.

Some of Yatsan posts have been deleted after reporting them; he has been active since yesterday; it's unknown if he has been kicked from Stake. His ignoring this thread is proof enough for admission of guilt. Perhaps he has other accounts as well, since this account had changed hands since 2018 or 2019, but for some reason it wasn't a big deal back then.

Those who will investigate further should pay attention to all those profiles that spam the Economic board, and @Yatsan was often one of the first to respond in such topics. It is possible that these are his alts and that they use the same AI content masking techniques.

Profiles that are suspicious:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/squaremile777-3537888 (@Squaremile777)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/waldorf77-3588422 (@Waldorf77)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/shortmaster-3557924 (@Shortmaster)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mansory22022-3616802 (Mansory22022)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fullbear2222-3511476 (@Fullbear2222)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mrbuck-3637722 (@Mrbuck)

There's something sinister about that account. I remember trying to investigate it sometime back but gave up along the way due to little time but it looks like it changes hands at one point. The user does a good joke by keeping away from drama  

Edit:
These are some of the posts I started off from during that time

1. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48819867
2. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48950683
3. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50333329

Thank you for your kind words, it's certainly impossible to eradicate all spam or all campaign participants (not specifically talking about Stake, but in general) who are producing spam content. Managers often have multiple projects simultaneously, so it's logical one or two eventually slips away. The truth is that I've been watching Yatsan for quite some time now, and I was also frustrated at first because most detectors didn't show much, till I decided to try another approach, do some digging and find evidence that I could present, rather than claiming that his posts look like AI written, but simply remain undetectable for whatever reason I couldn't comprehend back then. It was definitely more time-consuming that the usual suspects, and along with some personal stuff I had to deal with, the case was almost forgotten, till I finally posted it.

He has probably already seen this thread but prefers to ignore it, as he was logged in a while ago.