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legendary
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Like I said watch the video. Mr Khan talks about these pesky issues. To quote him 'A man does not become great with just his talents or qualifications, he becomes great when he has a great vision'.

I completely agree with Mr Khan's viewpoint here, he clearly says that if India and Pakistan are to move forward and have sustained peace then there needs to be a leader that has a great vision for both these countries. Obviously there will be a vested interest in keeping the things as they are currently and there will be opposition and challenges to overcome if one is to go up against the status-quo.
But to overcome these small pesky hurdles and look beyond what our countries can achieve in the future if they work together is beyond anything that anyone of us can comprehend.

He talks about open borders and letting India access Central Asia through Pakistan and that is a HUGE statement coming from a pakistani politician.

In my opinion, free trade and open borders and joint policing and administration of Kashmir would be a huge leap forward. Keep in mind Mr Khan did NOT talk about this joint administration thing its just my thought.

That won't happen. At least not in the foreseeable future. India, Pakistan and Bangladesh (+Burma and Sri Lanka) are not just accidentally broke up. There are too deep religious, cultural, historic and ethnic rifts between these people. The only way to keep such a huge and diverse mass of people together is an external coercive factor.
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Lol... a Union state consisting of India (1,300 million), Pakistan (190 million) and Bangladesh (160 million) will be the most populous nation in the earth, with 1.65 billion residents. Surprisingly, the Hindus will still be the majority, with a population of 1,032 million (62.34% of the population), followed by Muslims at 520 million (31.38%) and Christians at 35.5 million (2.14%).


Why do you keep categorizing India as a Hindu country? That in itself shows how much (or less) you know about the ground reality here.
legendary
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Lol... a Union state consisting of India (1,300 million), Pakistan (190 million) and Bangladesh (160 million) will be the most populous nation in the earth, with 1.65 billion residents. Surprisingly, the Hindus will still be the majority, with a population of 1,032 million (62.34% of the population), followed by Muslims at 520 million (31.38%) and Christians at 35.5 million (2.14%).
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An idea of union or being united is easy to think but hard to follow through.

U see, when there is internal peace and stability, one can look forward to grow.

check the news... these internal politics at the capital of India ... how can we think of getting that formal united India back when we are divinded among ourselves..


Like I said watch the video. Mr Khan talks about these pesky issues. To quote him 'A man does not become great with just his talents or qualifications, he becomes great when he has a great vision'.

I completely agree with Mr Khan's viewpoint here, he clearly says that if India and Pakistan are to move forward and have sustained peace then there needs to be a leader that has a great vision for both these countries. Obviously there will be a vested interest in keeping the things as they are currently and there will be opposition and challenges to overcome if one is to go up against the status-quo.
But to overcome these small pesky hurdles and look beyond what our countries can achieve in the future if they work together is beyond anything that anyone of us can comprehend.

He talks about open borders and letting India access Central Asia through Pakistan and that is a HUGE statement coming from a pakistani politician.

In my opinion, free trade and open borders and joint policing and administration of Kashmir would be a huge leap forward. Keep in mind Mr Khan did NOT talk about this joint administration thing its just my thought.

legendary
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An idea of union or being united is easy to think but hard to follow through.

U see, when there is internal peace and stability, one can look forward to grow.

check the news... these internal politics at the capital of India ... how can we think of getting that formal united India back when we are divinded among ourselves..
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Reviving this.

Please watch this video of Ex Cricketer and current Pakistani politician; Imran khan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJwyCuDqv58

legendary
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If we consider UK, my friend said that there is a terrible discrimination with regards to the color and Indians are mostly treated badly in London (where my friend lives).

Native inhabitants of England might disagree with you. Some of the British friends of mine have complained that in some parts of the cities such as Oldham, Burnley, and Bradford, there are "No go" areas for whites. And regarding London, the Inner boroughs are around two-thirds non-white. I don't think that the minority race group will discriminate the majority there.
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So after reading about some of the appalling views and perception of my country from this thread; I decided to make this new thread much more fun and engaging.


Express your perception of INDIA in ONE WORD.
sr. member
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Sad to hear that JUI-F Chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman in Pakistan blamed women in jeans as the reason for 'Earthquakes'.

He also said that the military will now take 'action' against women who prefer western fashion.
Nobody gives a damn about JUI-F chief Fazlul Rahman - one of the most corrupt and hypocrite leader in world. Most Pakistanis hate him. He has a cult following in a few backward areas of militancy hit province KPK. We are looking forward to a progressive and peaceful Pakistan with equal rights for all citizens unlike so-called Secular India which hits news like people being declined jobs for being Muslims or not allowed to rent an apartment for being Muslim daily.
Really? How can you even compare Pakistan to India? You have been "looking" for equal rights and peaceful progression since last 60 years, and you'll keep on "looking forward" to it for more hundreds of years. No matter what you claim but India in terms of secularism, peace and in terms of equal rights is far more better than Pakistan. Man, you guys cannot even successfully conduct a cricket series in your nation and you are talking about self dependence,peaceful progression and crap.
legendary
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India does have vast discrimination.

But this discrimination is not the worst compared to all other countries. Where I am living, I haven't seen any problems with respect to religion but it may be the case in other states (but it hasn't been reported in the news that any major incident has happened). If we consider UK, my friend said that there is a terrible discrimination with regards to the color and Indians are mostly treated badly in London (where my friend lives). In other countries the problems are far more worse that we can imagine. It's similar with Hindus in Pakistan. There have been reports that they are iltreated there.
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We are looking forward to a progressive and peaceful Pakistan with equal rights for all citizens unlike so-called Secular India which hits news like people being declined jobs for being Muslims or not allowed to rent an apartment for being Muslim daily.

Lol.. Is it possible even to compare the situation of Muslims in India to that of Hindus in Pakistan? I am not a permanent resident of either India or Pakistan. But still, I regularly travel to India. I have spoken to many Indian Muslims, and most of them claim that they face hardly any harassment in India. Can the same be said about the Hindus in Pakistan?

In news muslim destroy Hindu temple in Pakistan but I agree border vanish good for us common people. Hate crime eats normal people make rich more rich.
legendary
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We are looking forward to a progressive and peaceful Pakistan with equal rights for all citizens unlike so-called Secular India which hits news like people being declined jobs for being Muslims or not allowed to rent an apartment for being Muslim daily.

Lol.. Is it possible even to compare the situation of Muslims in India to that of Hindus in Pakistan? I am not a permanent resident of either India or Pakistan. But still, I regularly travel to India. I have spoken to many Indian Muslims, and most of them claim that they face hardly any harassment in India. Can the same be said about the Hindus in Pakistan?
legendary
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Sad to hear that JUI-F Chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman in Pakistan blamed women in jeans as the reason for 'Earthquakes'.

He also said that the military will now take 'action' against women who prefer western fashion.
Nobody gives a damn about JUI-F chief Fazlul Rahman - one of the most corrupt and hypocrite leader in world. Most Pakistanis hate him. He has a cult following in a few backward areas of militancy hit province KPK. We are looking forward to a progressive and peaceful Pakistan with equal rights for all citizens unlike so-called Secular India which hits news like people being declined jobs for being Muslims or not allowed to rent an apartment for being Muslim daily.

The lady who claimed to not get an apartment on rent lately in the news was a liar. People often claim this when the reason is either they disagree with the rent amount or don't want to pay the money. Yes, there are some buildings which don't allow Muslims to stay there because they fear any conflicts between Hindus and Muslims. That case is even in Pakistan where few Hindus were forced to leave the country and were harassed for year in that country.

Muslims get jobs everywhere and that claim is false that they don't get jobs. My boss is a Muslim in a Hindu company  Roll Eyes

I don't know why you dislike India so much but problems exist in every country and India is certainly not the worst country in this regard.
I certainly don't hate India but we are discussing the reasons why "Akhand Bharat" is not possible. I understand these problems are prevalent in whole subcontinent - not just Pakistan or India. This is the point I'm trying to make.
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
Sad to hear that JUI-F Chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman in Pakistan blamed women in jeans as the reason for 'Earthquakes'.

He also said that the military will now take 'action' against women who prefer western fashion.
Nobody gives a damn about JUI-F chief Fazlul Rahman - one of the most corrupt and hypocrite leader in world. Most Pakistanis hate him. He has a cult following in a few backward areas of militancy hit province KPK. We are looking forward to a progressive and peaceful Pakistan with equal rights for all citizens unlike so-called Secular India which hits news like people being declined jobs for being Muslims or not allowed to rent an apartment for being Muslim daily.

The lady who claimed to not get an apartment on rent lately in the news was a liar. People often claim this when the reason is either they disagree with the rent amount or don't want to pay the money. Yes, there are some buildings which don't allow Muslims to stay there because they fear any conflicts between Hindus and Muslims. That case is even in Pakistan where few Hindus were forced to leave the country and were harassed for year in that country.

Muslims get jobs everywhere and that claim is false that they don't get jobs. My boss is a Muslim in a Hindu company  Roll Eyes

I don't know why you dislike India so much but problems exist in every country and India is certainly not the worst country in this regard.

India does have vast discrimination.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1094
Sad to hear that JUI-F Chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman in Pakistan blamed women in jeans as the reason for 'Earthquakes'.

He also said that the military will now take 'action' against women who prefer western fashion.
Nobody gives a damn about JUI-F chief Fazlul Rahman - one of the most corrupt and hypocrite leader in world. Most Pakistanis hate him. He has a cult following in a few backward areas of militancy hit province KPK. We are looking forward to a progressive and peaceful Pakistan with equal rights for all citizens unlike so-called Secular India which hits news like people being declined jobs for being Muslims or not allowed to rent an apartment for being Muslim daily.

The lady who claimed to not get an apartment on rent lately in the news was a liar. People often claim this when the reason is either they disagree with the rent amount or don't want to pay the money. Yes, there are some buildings which don't allow Muslims to stay there because they fear any conflicts between Hindus and Muslims. That case is even in Pakistan where few Hindus were forced to leave the country and were harassed for year in that country.

Muslims get jobs everywhere and that claim is false that they don't get jobs. My boss is a Muslim in a Hindu company  Roll Eyes

I don't know why you dislike India so much but problems exist in every country and India is certainly not the worst country in this regard.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
Sad to hear that JUI-F Chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman in Pakistan blamed women in jeans as the reason for 'Earthquakes'.

He also said that the military will now take 'action' against women who prefer western fashion.
Nobody gives a damn about JUI-F chief Fazlul Rahman - one of the most corrupt and hypocrite leader in world. Most Pakistanis hate him. He has a cult following in a few backward areas of militancy hit province KPK. We are looking forward to a progressive and peaceful Pakistan with equal rights for all citizens unlike so-called Secular India which hits news like people being declined jobs for being Muslims or not allowed to rent an apartment for being Muslim daily.
sr. member
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RIP Akhand Bharat.
We separated from Hindus India for such reasons. No matter how hard India tries to weaken Pakistan in a hope that it joins India again; such dreams will never come true. Pakistan is world's 6th most powerful nuclear power and will deal with all internal and external problems no matter how hard they be.



LoL. Noone is wanting to join you again. And deal with internal and external problems themselves?  You wont be able to buy even basic warfare machinery if you stop getting external grants, beggars. You don't even produce enough food to feed yourself, and you are talking about handling internal problems yourself 😂
legendary
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We separated from Hindus India for such reasons. No matter how hard India tries to weaken Pakistan in a hope that it joins India again; such dreams will never come true. Pakistan is world's 6th most powerful nuclear power and will deal with all internal and external problems no matter how hard they be.

I don't think that anyone with a normal mental state in India would like to merge the two nations. If India, Pakistan and Bangladesh merge to form a single country, then Hindus will be a minority. Once that happens, what happened in Pakistan 70 years ago, and what is happening in Bangladesh right now will occur in India - the genocide of the Hindus.
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Sad to hear that JUI-F Chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman in Pakistan blamed women in jeans as the reason for 'Earthquakes'.

He also said that the military will now take 'action' against women who prefer western fashion.
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You are putting forward a very stupid reason to not hold plebscite. You agree that clear majority of Kashmirs want to join Pakistan but you are calling them terrorists for their choice.
You do not have any logical justification to defend "not holding referendum" and "suppressing freedom of speech". I won't even mention othee atrocities.

RIP Akhand Bharat.
We separated from Hindus India for such reasons. No matter how hard India tries to weaken Pakistan in a hope that it joins India again; such dreams will never come true. Pakistan is world's 6th most powerful nuclear power and will deal with all internal and external problems no matter how hard they be.

Ask around and find out if I am putting forward a very stupid reason or not the entire world is on the same page as me, maybe not on the reunion part but at least the part where it is Pakistani fueled terrorism.
You cant even name any ONE atrocity because there have been none, yes there have been isolated incidents which have been blown out of proportion and fingers have been raised but the whole point of this post is to look beyond the petty squabbling that both of our nation have been doing.

You can keep banging the old 'nuclear power' band over & over again the truth is in this region we are the big dogs and we have never waived our nuclear superiority flag over your heads.

'Heads' reminds me how about that incident last year where your army behead a couple of Indian soldiers ? Are you going to justify that ? IF you do then that would be enough to show the typical anti India mentality which has been seared into your brains.

You want us to take the terrorists demands seriously, you want us to enter discussion with a group of people that never belonged in India and have recently migrated from Pakistan into India driving the natives away and you want us to hand over a part of our country to them ? Why dont you guys hand over the northwestern parts of your country to Taliban ?

I'll tell you why, because where there is a separatist threat from a foreign influence you first make sure you remove any outside influence, you make sure that you first gain full control of that part of the disputed area where people 'allegedly' would want to disassociate from a nation, you would then try to address the people's demand to see if you can make them happy by providing them security, jobs, education, food, administration, infrastructure to build the next generation.

After all this when the extremists are dealt with, when people can think for themselves and decide what's best for themselves now and in the coming future THEN you will hold a fair referendum or election or whatever that would give the REAL INHABITANTS OF THE AREA the power to decide what they REALLY want.

That would be the only way. Thats what you should do with your northwestern taliban controlled areas and thats what we will do with our disputed areas.

Seriously, which normal person in their right mind want to be associated with a country that harbored OSAMA BIN LADEN ?? Both of our countries gained independence at the same time, we both had faced each other in multiple wars & stand offs but look at where Pakistan is after 68 years of Independence and look at where India is.

India is not the poster boy of a post colonial self rule success story, we've had our problems but we've dealt with it maturely, we didnt stomp our foot on the ground and didnt send terrorists to some other country to kill innocent people in an international hotel.

NOTHING can be gained by being mean to each other lets stop the di.ck pointing & lets once again reunite under one flag, it wouldnt be a Hindu country, or a buddhist country or a muslim country it would be the land of the free people.

Surely you may not share the same point of view but please dont insult the views that I believe in.
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