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Topic: Akhand Bharat - United India : Should it happen ? - page 4. (Read 7977 times)

legendary
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I don't think it's possible for two to unite. India is so called secular state but it is rules by religious fundamentalist. Asian nations will never come out of this religious hostility. So I don't think "united india" is a good idea. It will cause problems beyond your imagination.
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Don't tolerate or encourage name calling and trolling. I am of the opinion that if someone can't keep the conversation civil, then he should take his verbal diarrhoea to somewhere else.  

Classic case of bigotry. Keep it up. You kinda remind me of the kid that ends up naked on the street and closes his eyes while telling himself if only he doesnt look at everyone then no one would look at him.

So go ahead and close your eyes and pretend I dont exist Smiley

But just so we're clear, I am not lecturing anyone, I am just expressing my opinion, defending point of views that I strongly believe in. If any Tom, Dick or Harry can come here and be offensive to me or my country then I wont go as quietly into that good night.
legendary
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It's people like Legendster who you need to convince of that, nevermind the fact that I'm half-irish so I find it even funnier that he's lecturing me.

I have already added him to the ignore list, and I think you should also do the same. Don't tolerate or encourage name calling and trolling. I am of the opinion that if someone can't keep the conversation civil, then he should take his verbal diarrhoea to somewhere else. The Politics & Society subsection was created for conducting civil and friendly debates.

I like India's Democracy I wish we had that many parties in our country Wink and I'm not bringing down the country just stupid nationalists, insulting countries is something I reserve specifically for the UK lol Cheesy

Having a multi-party system does have its own disadvantages. Check the performance of the UPA government from 2004 to 2014.
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.. you're using ancestral history as an excuse for targeting people of a certain skin colour.

Are you high ?? The hell are you talking about ?
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It's people like Legendster who you need to convince of that, nevermind the fact that I'm half-irish so I find it even funnier that he's lecturing me.

Remind me what ? Why are you asking someone else to do your job ? Would you White-breds ever learn to do your own work yourself ??
I am not digging up old graves, this isnt old, in my point of view it should happen in the future. Whether the people in these region are open minded enough to look far forward into this direction is another issue.

Maybe if you stopped ranting about me being white I'd be able to take you more seriously, frankly I think in this day and age the only people who have any right to rant about the 'white man' are the American Indians, not that you'd ever give a shit about them or even have any knowledge of them given that your thought process doesn't extend beyond what landmass you were born on.

The reason I'm asking him, is because you're becoming too stupid for me to talk to, you're using ancestral history as an excuse for targeting people of a certain skin colour.

Hold your horses white boy,
Yes, It doesnt matter what your opinion is about the Native Indians, fact remains that in the current age it is us who face discrimination cuz of our color, and it just goes to show everyone that how touchy the world is about color, it is ok if the avg European ginger makes some racist comment on any other skin color but oh all mighty the hell will unleash it's fiery demons that will swallow all mankind should a non white make a racist white joke.

Yes in all sense my racist remarks are nothing more than jokes which should be read with a pinch of salt. I am by default against racism of any sorts.

However it is remarkable that you Mr Irish potato, have made up your mind and convinced yourself that you know me and know what I dont know or what I do know.

The genocide the Jews faced, the native Indians faced isnt in anyway relevant to the context of this topic. If you were talking about the Burmese genocide, or the Kashmiri genocide or the Tibetan suppression then I'd be interested to hear / discuss more about it.

legendary
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It's people like Legendster who you need to convince of that, nevermind the fact that I'm half-irish so I find it even funnier that he's lecturing me.

Remind me what ? Why are you asking someone else to do your job ? Would you White-breds ever learn to do your own work yourself ??
I am not digging up old graves, this isnt old, in my point of view it should happen in the future. Whether the people in these region are open minded enough to look far forward into this direction is another issue.

Maybe if you stopped ranting about me being white I'd be able to take you more seriously, frankly I think in this day and age the only people who have any right to rant about the 'white man' are the American Indians, not that you'd ever give a shit about them or even have any knowledge of them given that your thought process doesn't extend beyond what landmass you were born on.

The reason I'm asking him, is because you're becoming too stupid for me to talk to, you're using ancestral history as an excuse for targeting people of a certain skin colour.
legendary
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Give it up.  India will always be a disputed zone.



BTW, don't forget to take your 'polio' shots.

hero member
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It's people like Legendster who you need to convince of that, nevermind the fact that I'm half-irish so I find it even funnier that he's lecturing me.

Remind me what ? Why are you asking someone else to do your job ? Would you White-breds ever learn to do your own work yourself ??
I am not digging up old graves, this isnt old, in my point of view it should happen in the future. Whether the people in these region are open minded enough to look far forward into this direction is another issue.
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I like India's Democracy I wish we had that many parties in our country Wink and I'm not bringing down the country just stupid nationalists, insulting countries is something I reserve specifically for the UK lol Cheesy

LOL! UK and India will always have that negativity due to past events. But not all Indians hate UK citizens because of that as there are UK stars who are acting in Bollywood as well  Wink

The fact that hurts few here are that many people suffered due to the British rule. Many women were raped and made slaves while people used to fear to leave their houses as they would be arrested if anything went wrong. My ancestors as well were their slaves and hence they shifted to Indonesia during these years.


It's time that we need to forget the past events and move on in life. Nobody profits by just digging up old matters and spreading hate. 'Live and let live' is what I believe in.

I am an Indian and my ancestors from both my mother's side & father's side have remained here as far as I can tell.
So with that said let me tell you something, those accounts of britts raping and pillaging are true but only to some extent, you have to remember that most of the soldiers here initially were just hired mercs here to protect the trade routes. Even then the britts were not the original traders/pillagers who cam here actually they came here the last, it was the Dutch and Portuguese that did the most pillaging & raping in the early 16th century, most bookworms would recognize the term 'The Black hole of Kolkata' which was an incident that was by some accounts under reported but had enough potency to shake things up in London that they started sanctioning royal troops to come here.

Raping & pillaging did occur, but it is exaggerated to some extent. Most of the deaths here were due to famine as Britts forced Zamindars (land lords) to produce more cash crops like Opium in turn leading to slave labor & so on. Things were particularly bad for the farmers.
legendary
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It's people like Legendster who you need to convince of that, nevermind the fact that I'm half-irish so I find it even funnier that he's lecturing me.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1094
I like India's Democracy I wish we had that many parties in our country Wink and I'm not bringing down the country just stupid nationalists, insulting countries is something I reserve specifically for the UK lol Cheesy

LOL! UK and India will always have that negativity due to past events. But not all Indians hate UK citizens because of that as there are UK stars who are acting in Bollywood as well  Wink

The fact that hurts few here are that many people suffered due to the British rule. Many women were raped and made slaves while people used to fear to leave their houses as they would be arrested if anything went wrong. My ancestors as well were their slaves and hence they shifted to Indonesia during these years.


It's time that we need to forget the past events and move on in life. Nobody profits by just digging up old matters and spreading hate. 'Live and let live' is what I believe in.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1000
I like India's Democracy I wish we had that many parties in our country Wink and I'm not bringing down the country just stupid nationalists, insulting countries is something I reserve specifically for the UK lol Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1094
Interesting to see how a discussion about United India turns into a battle between Indians vs Indians and Indians vs other countries. Sati, child marriage, religions, racism and all sorts of abusive comments being shared here. Forget uniting India with it's neighborhood countries, Indians aren't united themselves. And for heaven's sake, it's not Ghandi but Gandhi.

I don't even understand how are other countries getting affected if this Akhand Bharat unison happens? Why so much hatred for India? India doesn't have the bullets to fight any war? That's news to me. India isn't a country consisting of beggars and we may not be as rich as other countries but Indians do not believe in leaving their children at the age of 14-15 years like other foreign countries which have mostly nuclear families and their children start having live-in relationships at the age of 14-15 years. My cousins too live in Australia and there it's considered a joke if a girl doesn't have a boyfriend at the age of 13-14 years. There may be crimes taking place here and women feeling insecure here but that's the problem with each and every country and India is not alone in this matter.


Instead of bringing down a country, look at the positives as well.
legendary
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How am I a hypocrite? Basically what you're doing is you're trying to write off an entire generation for what their ancestors did a generation or two ago, stop having such a victim complex and trying to blame me, I haven't done shit to you aside from call you out on your own bullshit. It's all wrong because innocent people get caught up in your nationalist circle jerk and you don't give a shit as long as you can take that land for yourself, you people are no better than the Nazis, calling me racist because I disagree with you is just fucking ridiculous.
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Looks suspiciously like Empire building to me, so no thanks, I am against that kind of plan on principle because I am an Anarchist. If you want to form a defensive alliance maybe to prevent yourself being picked on by superpowers then sure that makes sense, but turning that whole landmass into one state? No thanks.

Well you just parroted the sentiment of 1940-50 America / UK.
Watch this interview of VK Krishna Menon from that era :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ylzRZA5-zs

It has always been the same mentality used against India "If you're not with us, then surely you are against us"

Its high time you white-breds (racist much ?) pull your heads out of your asses & stop thwarting what we stand for.

Boooo! Racist! Booooo! Cheesy That's fucking fantastic.

More like you're using that logic by claiming that anybody who disagrees with you is a racist, I gave you my reasoning, I'm against Empire building, you're basically trying to claim the colonisation of entire peoples is a good thing and I find that heavily ironic given us British went and took over a good chunk of that continent along with a lot of other western european powers.

Didn't you learn anything from Ghandi about Imperialism and what it can do to the people being subjugated by it? You're a fucking moron, I love how there are posters here trying to claim because I'm white and British/American ( I'm actually British but go figure ) that I'm somehow not entitled to an opinion on Imperialism, you guys just lost the argument completely.

Its one thing to have an opinion, and completely another thing to be hypocrites. The US had it's own regional imperialism and look where they are today, are you saying any state that associated itself with the Americans are regretting their decisions these days?

Why is it wrong all of a sudden if Russia annexes Crimea ? Why is it wrong if India annexes Goa ? (already did) Why is it wrong for people in South asia to unite their countries that share a cultural history for the benefit of their own people ?

I am not saying that India and Papua New Guinea should unite, I am not saying that India and Australia should unite. I am only talking about the greater India region is that too hard to get through into your thick skull you bigot ?
legendary
Activity: 1540
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Looks suspiciously like Empire building to me, so no thanks, I am against that kind of plan on principle because I am an Anarchist. If you want to form a defensive alliance maybe to prevent yourself being picked on by superpowers then sure that makes sense, but turning that whole landmass into one state? No thanks.

Well you just parroted the sentiment of 1940-50 America / UK.
Watch this interview of VK Krishna Menon from that era :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ylzRZA5-zs

It has always been the same mentality used against India "If you're not with us, then surely you are against us"

Its high time you white-breds (racist much ?) pull your heads out of your asses & stop thwarting what we stand for.

Boooo! Racist! Booooo! Cheesy That's fucking fantastic.

More like you're using that logic by claiming that anybody who disagrees with you is a racist, I gave you my reasoning, I'm against Empire building, you're basically trying to claim the colonisation of entire peoples is a good thing and I find that heavily ironic given us British went and took over a good chunk of that continent along with a lot of other western european powers.

Didn't you learn anything from Ghandi about Imperialism and what it can do to the people being subjugated by it? You're a fucking moron, I love how there are posters here trying to claim because I'm white and British/American ( I'm actually British but go figure ) that I'm somehow not entitled to an opinion on Imperialism, you guys just lost the argument completely.
sr. member
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Cause they are the kind of Muslims I don't want in our nation and at least I consider them to follow Islam and I don't how know how many of such people are there I Pakistan, and I would never want them to come to India.

The thing is, it is not religion or a particular religion which promotes a misdeed, its the human society that uses religion as a cloak to commit such crimes and point fingers. Like it or not those kind of people are already here in our country and they are not particularly muslim, they have been here for a long time, you cant 'Filter' your population based on religion then that would be STUPID.

You want a better India? then abolish all religion here, exile everyone that follows a diety / god or goes to a temple or mosque.

We Hindus are so stupid that we went to the streets with swords and lathis to tear down posters of a movie which criticized our religion, we are THAT IGNORANT here. Religion made us that way.

Open your mind for once and ask yourself what if your parents were muslim ? What if you were teased in school as a terrorist ? What if people looked at you awkwardly whenever a 9/11 or 26/11 debate arose. You are a human first THEN a Hindu.
Never said that what Hindus do is all correct. We are equally wrong in many of our stupid acts and I still see Indian Muslims as nice and good human beings. But why do you want to merge us with the animals?

Looks suspiciously like Empire building to me, so no thanks, I am against that kind of plan on principle because I am an Anarchist. If you want to form a defensive alliance maybe to prevent yourself being picked on by superpowers then sure that makes sense, but turning that whole landmass into one state? No thanks.
Assuming that you are an American, do you still have the rights to criticize the act of "Empire Building"?
hero member
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Looks suspiciously like Empire building to me, so no thanks, I am against that kind of plan on principle because I am an Anarchist. If you want to form a defensive alliance maybe to prevent yourself being picked on by superpowers then sure that makes sense, but turning that whole landmass into one state? No thanks.

Well you just parroted the sentiment of 1940-50 America / UK.
Watch this interview of VK Krishna Menon from that era :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ylzRZA5-zs

It has always been the same mentality used against India "If you're not with us, then surely you are against us"

Its high time you white-breds (racist much ?) pull your heads out of your asses & stop thwarting what we stand for.
legendary
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agree. if anything we need zero boundaries
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1000
Looks suspiciously like Empire building to me, so no thanks, I am against that kind of plan on principle because I am an Anarchist. If you want to form a defensive alliance maybe to prevent yourself being picked on by superpowers then sure that makes sense, but turning that whole landmass into one state? No thanks.
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