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Topic: [ANN] .0014 BTC per GH/s - 12 month contract **www.BitcoinCloudServices.com** - page 33. (Read 68163 times)

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Actually, the whois info simply points to a name, Gabriel Kleiman, and according to the domain info he's registered onto a rented address in London
So, Gabriel Kleiman is one of the bitcoinservices.com people.
dekodoge found a link where another person of the company is named, Esteban Amador Soto Martinez, both Mexican
And that Esteban person is one of the very suspicious characters in the bitcoincloudhashing.com scam, here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=414314.40



I'm not angry : Smiley
No, indeed. I misread, sorry
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So is this another scam? Huh

If whois info points to a previous scam there is no way this is legit.
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No need to get angry. Just asking where you have your info from as that was my missing link. So, yeah, too many coincidences, scales dropping the other way again Sad
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I know the name, but I don't see how you can link it to the Mexican one? Yes, it's suspect, but more people share the same name

https://www.duedil.com/company/08935510/btc-cloud-services-ltd/people

note how it lists him with a flag as mexican, why do you think this is?

Read MY other POSTS don't be deluded, far to many co-incidences here dont you think?

I'm sure they will be back to explain this all away.


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I know the name, but I don't see how you can link it to the Mexican one? Yes, it's suspect, but more people share the same name
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Crikey let me explain.

From the website inside the SSL cert

Quote
CN = www.bitcoincloudservices.com
O = BTC Cloud Services LTD
L = London
C = GB
PostalCode = E1W 1AW
STREET = 46-48 EAST SMITHFIELD
STREET = TOWER BRIDGE BUSINESS CENTRE SUITE 313

Do you not think its a bit odd how the scammer mentioned in the old scam operation is company sectary at this new operation and that the owner seems to run pizza joints in mexico.





Thank you for pointing that out to us, now let's just wait what btccloudservices will say to clarify this matter
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FARK MAN!!

completely blows my mind how peoples address can be discovered'

so whats my name?? wtf is it?Huh





You are Rahul Chand.
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Crikey let me explain.

From the website inside the SSL cert

Quote
CN = www.bitcoincloudservices.com
O = BTC Cloud Services LTD
L = London
C = GB
PostalCode = E1W 1AW
STREET = 46-48 EAST SMITHFIELD
STREET = TOWER BRIDGE BUSINESS CENTRE SUITE 313

Do you not think its a bit odd how the scammer mentioned in the old scam operation is company sectary at this new operation and that the owner seems to run pizza joints in mexico.



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completely blows my mind how peoples address can be discovered'

so whats my name?? wtf is it?Huh



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I will let you connect the dots.

They definitely are scammers. I paid 7.39BTC last week (before anyone posted on forums) for 2TH/S for 6 months.

Immediately after paying, I got an email from a Walter Strickland saying that as soon as the transfer had been confirmed , he will send my login details.

A week later, I still have not received my login details.They have not responded to any emails I have sent and their website keeps changing. Any phone number they have given reaches a dead end.

Yesterday I emailed them from a friends email address as a prospective customer and low and behold, I got an answer within an hour. I asked them about my order in a follow up email and still no reply.

When you email them, the message goes to an Esteban Amador Soto Martinez who then forwards it to Walter Strickland who then responds.

Do not pay them a penny? They are a bunch of crooks. If anyone finds out anything new about them, I will really appreciate it as I do not know how I'm going to go about getting my money.

I just don't understand how they're still online and able to take orders.

Mexican
Mr Gabriel Kleiman
Born 33 years ago: 1980
Director, Merchant
12 Mar 2014 — Present (3 months, 23 days)
Open   

Mexican
Mr Gabriel Kleiman
Born 33 years ago: 1980
Company Secretary
12 Mar 2014 — Present (3 months, 23 days)


Mr Esteban Amador Soto Martinez
Born: Unknown
Company Secretary
12 Mar 2014 — Present (3 months, 23 days)

MR ESTEBAN AMADOR SOTO MARTINEZ was born in 1980
Country: ENGLAND
Posttown: LONDON
Postcode: EC1V 4PW (150 John street)
Country of residence: MEXICO

https://twitter.com/GabrielKleiman seems to be Mexican also or has ties to mexico
http://www.cnnexpansion.com/mi-dinero/2011/03/23/4-equivocate-pero-aprende-la-leccion
https://soundcloud.com/gabriel-kleiman

Gabriel!!!
http://www.pizzaamore.com.mx

Web dev here was Esteban
http://latestadura.com.mx/




I didnt see any connections between mr esteban and this service, or did I miss something here ? What aleyman said above is about bitcoincloudhashing.com

EDIT : never mind, found it on google http://www.companydirectorcheck.com/esteban-amador-soto-martinez

so, are they (BTC Cloud Service LTD and BitcoinCloudServices) the same company ? Their addresses dont match each other
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I will let you connect the dots.

They definitely are scammers. I paid 7.39BTC last week (before anyone posted on forums) for 2TH/S for 6 months.

Immediately after paying, I got an email from a Walter Strickland saying that as soon as the transfer had been confirmed , he will send my login details.

A week later, I still have not received my login details.They have not responded to any emails I have sent and their website keeps changing. Any phone number they have given reaches a dead end.

Yesterday I emailed them from a friends email address as a prospective customer and low and behold, I got an answer within an hour. I asked them about my order in a follow up email and still no reply.

When you email them, the message goes to an Esteban Amador Soto Martinez who then forwards it to Walter Strickland who then responds.

Do not pay them a penny? They are a bunch of crooks. If anyone finds out anything new about them, I will really appreciate it as I do not know how I'm going to go about getting my money.

I just don't understand how they're still online and able to take orders.

Mexican
Mr Gabriel Kleiman
Born 33 years ago: 1980
Director, Merchant
12 Mar 2014 — Present (3 months, 23 days)
Open   

Mexican
Mr Gabriel Kleiman
Born 33 years ago: 1980
Company Secretary
12 Mar 2014 — Present (3 months, 23 days)


Mr Esteban Amador Soto Martinez
Born: Unknown
Company Secretary
12 Mar 2014 — Present (3 months, 23 days)

MR ESTEBAN AMADOR SOTO MARTINEZ was born in 1980
Country: ENGLAND
Posttown: LONDON
Postcode: EC1V 4PW (150 John street)
Country of residence: MEXICO

https://twitter.com/GabrielKleiman seems to be Mexican also or has ties to mexico
http://www.cnnexpansion.com/mi-dinero/2011/03/23/4-equivocate-pero-aprende-la-leccion
https://soundcloud.com/gabriel-kleiman

Gabriel!!!
http://www.pizzaamore.com.mx

Web dev here was Esteban
http://latestadura.com.mx/


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I've performed a broad-spectrum exorcism on my computer and it seems I have expelled the evil entity.
Think I know what it was, though not exactly. But it wasn't even evil, just the results were Cheesy


Hi. We are working to upgrade the following key areas of the site:

1. We are revamping the referral program (we are testing it as we write).
2. We are renewing our business offer considering important feedback we've received from fellow forum members.
2. We will upgrade the server, we need more resources to better serve our growing customer base. In the next coming days our site will be migrated to the new server.
3. As soon as we migrate the site to the new server we'll be testing the new customer dashboard. This will provide you more information about your contracts. At the moment it shows you: the contract start date, last payout and a link to the blockchain's last payout TXID, this information is updated everyday around 0:00 UTC.  we know customers need more information and we are working hard to provide it.

These changes do not affect  payouts, as (for security) they are not processed in the server.  Payout will always be around 0:00 UTC everyday.



Posting the TXID is excellent. This sort of transparency, plus development in combination with communication, will get you a flood of new customers, and happy existing ones.
legendary
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Many of your posts dissappeared, including your post I quoted above, something strange happened with your account

plus this thread is not moderated so could be ghosts in his computer
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BitcoinCloudServices.com 0.0017 BTC per GH/s
Hi,

I bought 65 GH and am trying to figure out a way to track the returns. Would it be possible to put a link on the user account to see how much BTC has been paid out so far, either total or, even better, per contract?

Hi. We are working to upgrade the following key areas of the site:

1. We are revamping the referral program (we are testing it as we write).
2. We are renewing our business offer considering important feedback we've received from fellow forum members.
2. We will upgrade the server, we need more resources to better serve our growing customer base. In the next coming days our site will be migrated to the new server.
3. As soon as we migrate the site to the new server we'll be testing the new customer dashboard. This will provide you more information about your contracts. At the moment it shows you: the contract start date, last payout and a link to the blockchain's last payout TXID, this information is updated everyday around 0:00 UTC.  we know customers need more information and we are working hard to provide it.

These changes do not affect  payouts, as (for security) they are not processed in the server.  Payout will always be around 0:00 UTC everyday.


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Hi,

I bought 65 GH and am trying to figure out a way to track the returns. Would it be possible to put a link on the user account to see how much BTC has been paid out so far, either total or, even better, per contract?
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Many of your posts dissappeared, including your post I quoted above, something strange happened with your account
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Okay...

A bunch of my posts and PM's of the last days have disappeared, including my reply to btccloudservices a few days ago. What I posted on July 1 was:
Quote from: Mikefeb
Hello Gabriel, nice to meet you. To be honest, part of me was thinking this would be ignored, and part of me expected a quick and fairly general reassurance message with little to no (sensible) content. But your reply is a decent one. Thank you for taking the time. I appreciate it.

I'm not as good with words today as I like, I'm a bit tired actually, but in short, I try and tell people to be careful, nothing more nothing less. I've referred quite a bunch of people in the past (and in the future, I hope) and I try to look out for bad signs. In your case, your sensible business setup also seems to be aligned for a quick getaway. The answers I got from the staff members weren't enough to take away the suspicious feelings completely. When I noticed the exact payments that was the drop. I'm not deliberately trying to discredit you or your business and I hope I haven't made that impression. I've pointed out a few facts and warned people to tread carefully. Which, I hope, is something people will always do before spending money on any kind of opportunity. The chance of depositing coins into a scam operation is disgustingly high nowadays.

The longer existence, well, that's more a personal feeling. You have to start somewhere, and there's work to be done and nothing is perfect (yet). I understand. Though, development and frequent communications are a great help in such matters, so, I'm looking forward to the constant updates, hopefully here as well as on your website, as here there's also a bit of interaction possible.

I already have confirmed the daily payments. Today is no different Smiley

I haven't noticed the changes in the contract end date when a referral is credited, so thanks for telling. And I've started the referring machine again.



oh, BTW, you might want to change your signature, you're much better priced then you state there :p

Dunno why my stuff disappears. I've triple scanned my pc, changed passwords etcetera, cleared cookies, cleared browser data and a lot more.
This particular message was posted hours ago and disappeared also. It's back though. Hope it stays this time
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