Topic: [ANN] .0014 BTC per GH/s - 12 month contract **www.BitcoinCloudServices.com** - page 6. (Read 68163 times)

And those people have been proven right time and time again.

Never mind, this latest and just arrived anon is just a clone of someone else who is long past expiration date here. Not wasting more time on him.

Well, then you avoid them. End of story, I presume. You just got here. The people I´m referring to have been whining the same song for months, up to a year some of them. Maybe you´ll join the chorus for the next months, time will tell.

BTW, who are these "us" that you´re so worried about ?

I'm not interested in personal details of the owners, but in their business, their firm. In business outside the bitcoin world it is completely normal to have some company transparency and proof of what you are doing, even public balances and financial things. And except for critical and secret parts, a normal company won't have problems with showing the public their production sites or at least a film.

But the film provided by bitcoincluodservices just fires suspicion. It would be easy to film the mining hardware without giving away too much information, just with a moving camera and someone walking around in the site, like the video of genesis-mining shows. Why don't they provide us with something like this? It would be easy and riskless for them.

I guess I find it strange how these people demand that others disclose their personal and business details and then conclude that failure to comply proves that a scam is being run. Now; that may very well be so, BUT it´s also strange how these people never seem to consider the possibility that people may simply not be too eager to leave themselves wide open to extortionists and other criminal garbage. But of course an extortionist wouldn´t include such minor details in his reasoning.

Also, extortionists wouldn´t be interested at all in discussing how systematic slander campaigns and scaremongering can indeed drive operations, legit or otherwise, out of business before their time by scaring customers away from them. But once they go belly up then they must have been a scam anyway, a self-fulfilling prophecy which the extortionists can gloat about.

Well, maybe I´m the only one here that thinks this sort of reasoning looks like it´s coming from some sort of extortion racket. Yeah I know, those saviors of grown people from themselves are all total paragons of virtue, according to themselves. But maybe the leaders should disclose THEIR identities and personal details. I´m sure their own spotless record will make my baseless speculations disappear  

Ouf, it's really difficult to get through to your brains, people. Nobody is saying that they are not paying so far, I can even confirm that they are the best-paying company I tried so far - but that is no contradiction that it might be a Ponzi scheme, on the contrary, it is suspicious that they can pay so much.

Yeah, of course it might be "easy money" (as long as the Ponzi scheme works and as the owner does not decide it's a good time to run away now). But it is most probably dishonest money, and not from bitcoin mining.

It's okay if you don't give a shit (well, not really okay, but it would be honest if you admitted it) and you just want the money.

But people interested in bitcoin mining and honest businesses who would like to rely on hardware and a good management, DO CARE and would like to get some explanation and evidence. Instead of fake photos and films etc. ...

Moreover, every dishonest business drains money out of the honest ones...

So please, bitcoincloudservices, where is your proof? Asking for proof and explanation of all the strange things going on is not bashing!

This sushi guy is making the rounds. It´s one of those self-appointed saviors of mankind whose life´s mission is to save people from themselves. Or maybe it´s just a dis-appointed blackmailer that is being ignored.

I have been "testing" this service for almost 5 months now with multiple contracts ranging from 300GH to 21.0TH and so far so good. IMHO, anyone bashing them should do more of their own homework first.

Scott-

Price dropped to 0.0016 BTC / Ghash but they removed the coupon code option, glad to see that the prices aren't continuing to decrease furthermore Gives me some hope

I wonder how many people actually do their homework (aka “research”) before sending coins into the void.

Lets simply look at one of more than a dozen facts:

• Currently, BTC/USD and BTC/GBP are actually too low to be really profitable, while their “mining” contract only costs 0.00170000 BTC per GH/s for 12 months, no pool fee, no maintenance fee..
• On 2 Jul 2014, BitcoinCloudServices.com were selling 5 year contracts for 0.00290000 BTC per GHS, no pool fee, no maintenance fee. (You can find that old data on sites like http://cryptomining-blog.com/2971-bitcoin-cloud-mining-services-current-price-comparison/ )

So, just to be sure everyone grasps the issue here: while the BTC value dropped, their contract prices dropped too? Yeah, right… next thing you know, their mining facility is located on fantasy island where electricity is free and coins are polished by pretty Hula Girls.

Therefore…

Dear BitcoinCloudServices,
 
Before you expect cryptocurrency veterans to trust your – rather suspicious – claims, I would suggest to start out by proving that BitcoinCloudServices.com is indeed a legit cloud mining provider that actually runs (citing the website) “own, custom made mining hardware”.

Providing such (real) proof is a piece of cake: write your domain name on a piece of paper and take some photos of an employee holding up that paper while standing in front of your “custom made mining rigs”. That’s more trustworthy than your website’s stock images that are definitely not showing your own rigs. And, it would also make your several attempts to convince people superfluous.

Also, it would be constructive if you would post some of the BTC addresses you’ve used for mining… that way your mining efforts and resulting coin generation can be verified via the blockchain.

Providing such proofs shouldn’t be a problem since BitcoinCloudServices is genuinely mining and therefore has nothing to hide… right?

Looking forward to your response…

Make no mistake: Unless I see such evidence, I regard BitcoinCloudServices to be what it appears to be… “cloudy, with a chance of ponzi”.

Nota Bene:

Some of you will have noticed that I explicitly ignored the fact the blockchain tells a non-mining story, just like I ignored suspicious findings related to the social media accounts, as well as the truckload of bot-like reviews. I also ignored the fact that the BitcoinCloudServices investments in advertisements have more than tripled while contract prices dropped, and last but not least I ignored the fact that the mining contracts have been able to return the same amount of mined coins several days in a row on several occasions – which is near to impossible unless SHA256 has suddenly been rendered broken, losing its “cryptographically secure” status. (Make no mistake: there’s a higher probability that a rogue asteroid crashes into Earth within the next second, obliterating civilization-as-we-know-it and killing off a few billion people.)

If I hadn’t ignored all that, I might as well just have posted an image of a big, red warning sign and be done with it. Yet, for the fun of it I decided to give BitcoinCloudServices a chance to prove me wrong. All that’s needed are some photos as I’ve described above, and a few of the mining addresses so we’re able to verify coin generation (not the usual BitcoinCloudServices back-and-forth transfers between user deposits and user withdrawels). As long as I don’t see such evidence posted out in the open, I’ll rely on my well-vetted gut feeling that tells me BitcoinCloudServices isn’t what they claim it to be.

Wow. This is a big ponzi!

I also invest my first contract

Yes: https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1BTCPayb5AdF8fSsR7oews2PpuVpRtamk6

What is the payment address ? Does fund always come out from any certain address ?

+1 me to

Just got my payment through at 14:41 GMT

Payout address has been filled with new BTC, I believe we can still see our payouts today  Just a small delay

What´s that supposed to mean ? That you got paid now ?

Have some hash from Oct.-Nov. It´s roughly even, maybe slightly down.

There were two Payments on the 19th, one was already for the 20th.

But no Payment for Today until now.