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AIRcoin Alexander
February 26, 2014, 07:07:29 AM
2.5 mill premined.  So at 3.72 per block, doesn't that take 672043.011 blocks to reach 2.5 million?  Add to the fact that it takes 120 sec per block,  looks like it'll take 2.55 years of mining to reach that 2.5 mill premined.  No thanks.

Look closer at the block reward statistics, the early version of the wallet has a flat reward, later versions have a dynamic reward based on exchange rate data. The premine is used as an investment pool to be able to buy back and raise the price of the currency. 2,500,000 premine allows us enough volume that, in these markets, we can make reasonable, reliable 5% gains every week. We pay ourselves on gains we make over our quotas, and lose on losses. Those gains are put back into the market to buy back AIR and raise the equilibrium "regulated" price that the premine is used to maintain.

The way we manage the currency's critical numbers explains why the starting values were chosen for what they are. It's similar to an investing pool, though a bit abstract since it is cryptocurrency after all.

Well, that dynamic reward block better be alot higher than 3.72.  A lot higher if you want the coin to be FAIRLY distributed.  At the current rate, you will control 50 % of the marketcap for the next 2 years.  We, the people mining and investing in this coin, will be at the mercy of you guys.

 As much as you can manipulate the market to increase, you can easily crash the market and bail with the money.  Please explain that clearly to your investor.  It is not so easy because we've seen it end badly way too many times.  It hardly ends well.   I'm all for devs to get their cut of share BC of their work.  I don't think controling 50% of the shares for anything longer than a month is healthy for the market.   To me, this is my biggest concern.  

http://www.teamaircoin.org/whitepaper.pdf

That is the whitepaper associated with this coin, linked to in the first post. It explains the purpose and intentions of the coin quite clearly, if anything will convince you of the thought put behind this coin, it should.

Altcoins have had over a year to develop trustworthy, respectable services that can be used to develop the technology and adopted in the financial world. If a large reserve controlled by ambitious, intelligent, careful developers is what it takes to build faith in this technology, then we are willing to attempt it. The amount of money to be gained by dumping this coin is nothing compared to the amount of money in building a new, competitive financial instrument that can see serious adoption, something that 5 years of Bitcoin "development" hasn't achieved. Or, as quoted in the white Paper, Thomas Paine once said:

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The reflection is awful, and in this point of view, how trifling, how ridiculous, do the little paltry cavilings of a few weak or interested men appear, when weighed against the business of a world.
If you are not satisfied, then just wait. We aren't demanding people get behind this currency and rally for it blindly, we are asking that they respect it and look to it as an example to improve the technology. Blindly supporting a coin without reason is the exact type of unsustainable mania that put the Cryptocoin community into this bubbling spiral that its currently in.

- Alexander
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February 26, 2014, 06:42:03 AM

Ahh I've got it now.

Enter PIN to unlock and then you get the email.

First time I've seen this.

Got the email and can now update the account info.

Thanks.

ED: Still can't update account info. Get Token has expired.

Enter pin and get email, click link which is accepted and says you can now update account details.

Add new info and get Token has expired.

Going round in circles.





Not sure what would be happening there. At any rate I've disabled email confirmations so you should be able to edit your account details now.

Thanks!

I've now updated the wallet address and auto payout, plus added a donation for your prompt service!

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February 26, 2014, 06:32:27 AM
2.5 mill premined.  So at 3.72 per block, doesn't that take 672043.011 blocks to reach 2.5 million?  Add to the fact that it takes 120 sec per block,  looks like it'll take 2.55 years of mining to reach that 2.5 mill premined.  No thanks.

Look closer at the block reward statistics, the early version of the wallet has a flat reward, later versions have a dynamic reward based on exchange rate data. The premine is used as an investment pool to be able to buy back and raise the price of the currency. 2,500,000 premine allows us enough volume that, in these markets, we can make reasonable, reliable 5% gains every week. We pay ourselves on gains we make over our quotas, and lose on losses. Those gains are put back into the market to buy back AIR and raise the equilibrium "regulated" price that the premine is used to maintain.

The way we manage the currency's critical numbers explains why the starting values were chosen for what they are. It's similar to an investing pool, though a bit abstract since it is cryptocurrency after all.

Well, that dynamic reward block better be alot higher than 3.72.  A lot higher if you want the coin to be FAIRLY distributed.  At the current rate, you will control 50 % of the marketcap for the next 2 years.  We, the people mining and investing in this coin, will be at the mercy of you guys.

 As much as you can manipulate the market to increase, you can easily crash the market and bail with the money.  Please explain that clearly to your investor.  It is not so easy because we've seen it end badly way too many times.  It hardly ends well.   I'm all for devs to get their cut of share BC of their work.  I don't think controling 50% of the shares for anything longer than a month is healthy for the market.   To me, this is my biggest concern. 
sr. member
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Merit: 250
February 26, 2014, 06:18:58 AM
2.5 mill premined.  So at 3.72 per block, doesn't that take 672043.011 blocks to reach 2.5 million?  Add to the fact that it takes 120 sec per block,  looks like it'll take 2.55 years of mining to reach that 2.5 mill premined.  No thanks.

Look closer at the block reward statistics, the early version of the wallet has a flat reward, later versions have a dynamic reward based on exchange rate data. The premine is used as an investment pool to be able to buy back and raise the price of the currency. 2,500,000 premine allows us enough volume that, in these markets, we can make reasonable, reliable 5% gains every week. We pay ourselves on gains we make over our quotas, and lose on losses. Those gains are put back into the market to buy back AIR and raise the equilibrium "regulated" price that the premine is used to maintain.

The way we manage the currency's critical numbers explains why the starting values were chosen for what they are. It's similar to an investing pool, though a bit abstract since it is cryptocurrency after all.

This sounds reasonable and makes sense to me.

I'm happy with the premine amount and will continue to support AIR.



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February 26, 2014, 06:16:53 AM
What the fuck have you put into that wallet?

Its huge (github). Please read up on .gitignore files
newbie
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February 26, 2014, 06:15:50 AM
so altctrldefeated is offline.. the biggest one is closed

? http://air.ctrlaltdefeated.us is working fine!


i'm having another trouble though - the confirmation email hasn't sent, and i can't attach a wallet to payout without that email?


Same here, no conf email to change account details.

ecminer on your pool.

:-)



You guys are making sure to enter in your pin before clicking unlock? Tested myself just now and got the email almost instantly.

ohhh can you please add that instruction somewhere?

i didn't know you had to put in your pin then click unlock to get the email to actually be able to edit it LOL... no other pool i've been on has done that!

Newish security feature for MPOS so you will probably start running into it more often.

I've added a message on the pool to let everyone (hopefully) know they need to enter their pin first. If it becomes to much of a problem I'll disable the email confirmations altogether but you should only need to do it once and it makes it that much harder for someone to steal your coins Smiley

Ahh I've got it now.

Enter PIN to unlock and then you get the email.

First time I've seen this.

Got the email and can now update the account info.

Thanks.

ED: Still can't update account info. Get Token has expired.

Enter pin and get email, click link which is accepted and says you can now update account details.

Add new info and get Token has expired.

Going round in circles.





Not sure what would be happening there. At any rate I've disabled email confirmations so you should be able to edit your account details now.
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AIRcoin Alexander
February 26, 2014, 06:12:02 AM
2.5 mill premined.  So at 3.72 per block, doesn't that take 672043.011 blocks to reach 2.5 million?  Add to the fact that it takes 120 sec per block,  looks like it'll take 2.55 years of mining to reach that 2.5 mill premined.  No thanks.

Look closer at the block reward statistics, the early version of the wallet has a flat reward, later versions have a dynamic reward based on exchange rate data. The premine is used as an investment pool to be able to buy back and raise the price of the currency. 2,500,000 premine allows us enough volume that, in these markets, we can make reasonable, reliable 5% gains every week. We pay ourselves on gains we make over our quotas, and lose on losses. Those gains are put back into the market to buy back AIR and raise the equilibrium "regulated" price that the premine is used to maintain.

The way we manage the currency's critical numbers explains why the starting values were chosen for what they are. It's similar to an investing pool, though a bit abstract since it is cryptocurrency after all.
hero member
Activity: 528
Merit: 500
We are the ones we've been waiting for
February 26, 2014, 06:09:23 AM
2.5 mill premined.  So at 3.72 per block, doesn't that take 672043.011 blocks to reach 2.5 million?  Add to the fact that it takes 120 sec per block,  looks like it'll take 2.55 years of mining to reach that 2.5 mill premined.  No thanks.

I understand it's not going to fully stay in their pockets.
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February 26, 2014, 06:06:03 AM
2.5 mill premined.  So at 3.72 per block, doesn't that take 672043.011 blocks to reach 2.5 million?  Add to the fact that it takes 120 sec per block,  looks like it'll take 2.55 years of mining to reach that 2.5 mill premined.  No thanks.
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AIRcoin Alexander
February 26, 2014, 06:04:37 AM
Hmm nice hashrate we've got here n.n

+17% in the last 40 minutes.

Opportunity price for AIR puts it at .00035 BTC/USD or $0.175 USD/AIR. Next difficulty level will raise that between .00040 and .00047 BTC/AIR, if hashing power increases at about the same its been these last 24 hours.
hero member
Activity: 528
Merit: 500
We are the ones we've been waiting for
February 26, 2014, 06:00:37 AM
Hmm nice hashrate we've got here n.n
sr. member
Activity: 297
Merit: 250
February 26, 2014, 05:58:38 AM
so altctrldefeated is offline.. the biggest one is closed

? http://air.ctrlaltdefeated.us is working fine!


i'm having another trouble though - the confirmation email hasn't sent, and i can't attach a wallet to payout without that email?


Same here, no conf email to change account details.

ecminer on your pool.

:-)



You guys are making sure to enter in your pin before clicking unlock? Tested myself just now and got the email almost instantly.

ohhh can you please add that instruction somewhere?

i didn't know you had to put in your pin then click unlock to get the email to actually be able to edit it LOL... no other pool i've been on has done that!

Newish security feature for MPOS so you will probably start running into it more often.

I've added a message on the pool to let everyone (hopefully) know they need to enter their pin first. If it becomes to much of a problem I'll disable the email confirmations altogether but you should only need to do it once and it makes it that much harder for someone to steal your coins Smiley

Ahh I've got it now.

Enter PIN to unlock and then you get the email.

First time I've seen this.

Got the email and can now update the account info.

Thanks.

ED: Still can't update account info. Get Token has expired.

Enter pin and get email, click link which is accepted and says you can now update account details.

Add new info and get Token has expired.

Going round in circles.



newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
February 26, 2014, 05:50:47 AM
so altctrldefeated is offline.. the biggest one is closed

? http://air.ctrlaltdefeated.us is working fine!


i'm having another trouble though - the confirmation email hasn't sent, and i can't attach a wallet to payout without that email?


Same here, no conf email to change account details.

ecminer on your pool.

:-)



You guys are making sure to enter in your pin before clicking unlock? Tested myself just now and got the email almost instantly.

ohhh can you please add that instruction somewhere?

i didn't know you had to put in your pin then click unlock to get the email to actually be able to edit it LOL... no other pool i've been on has done that!

Newish security feature for MPOS so you will probably start running into it more often.

I've added a message on the pool to let everyone (hopefully) know they need to enter their pin first. If it becomes to much of a problem I'll disable the email confirmations altogether but you should only need to do it once and it makes it that much harder for someone to steal your coins Smiley
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
February 26, 2014, 05:43:30 AM
so altctrldefeated is offline.. the biggest one is closed

? http://air.ctrlaltdefeated.us is working fine!


i'm having another trouble though - the confirmation email hasn't sent, and i can't attach a wallet to payout without that email?


Same here, no conf email to change account details.

ecminer on your pool.

:-)



You guys are making sure to enter in your pin before clicking unlock? Tested myself just now and got the email almost instantly.

ohhh can you please add that instruction somewhere?

i didn't know you had to put in your pin then click unlock to get the email to actually be able to edit it LOL... no other pool i've been on has done that!
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
February 26, 2014, 05:42:07 AM
so altctrldefeated is offline.. the biggest one is closed

? http://air.ctrlaltdefeated.us is working fine!


i'm having another trouble though - the confirmation email hasn't sent, and i can't attach a wallet to payout without that email?


Same here, no conf email to change account details.

ecminer on your pool.

:-)



You guys are making sure to enter in your pin before clicking unlock? Tested myself just now and got the email almost instantly.
sr. member
Activity: 297
Merit: 250
February 26, 2014, 05:41:04 AM
so altctrldefeated is offline.. the biggest one is closed

? http://air.ctrlaltdefeated.us is working fine!


i'm having another trouble though - the confirmation email hasn't sent, and i can't attach a wallet to payout without that email?


Same here, no conf email to change account details.

ecminer on your pool.

:-)

member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
February 26, 2014, 05:36:08 AM
so altctrldefeated is offline.. the biggest one is closed

? http://air.ctrlaltdefeated.us is working fine!

yep i saw it come back and registered

it was 404ing for me for a while

i'm having another trouble though - the confirmation email hasn't sent, and i can't attach a wallet to payout without that email?

ED: i've got about 8.5MH/s on it now, i'll try not to screw with you too much, i've still got to set up my final 3MH rig, but i'll refrain from pointing it at aircoin until more pools arrive, keep it on clevermining lol. same with my main rig (about 1.5MH)

Have you checked your spam inbox? Mail server should be pretty quick.

yep, last thing in my spam folder was a spam inbox message from bitcointalk.org, about an hour ago.

last email in my inbox was about 1.75 hours ago
newbie
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February 26, 2014, 05:34:22 AM
so altctrldefeated is offline.. the biggest one is closed

? http://air.ctrlaltdefeated.us is working fine!

yep i saw it come back and registered

it was 404ing for me for a while

i'm having another trouble though - the confirmation email hasn't sent, and i can't attach a wallet to payout without that email?

ED: i've got about 8.5MH/s on it now, i'll try not to screw with you too much, i've still got to set up my final 3MH rig, but i'll refrain from pointing it at aircoin until more pools arrive, keep it on clevermining lol. same with my main rig (about 1.5MH)

Make sure you type your pin in before clicking unlock and also check your spam folder. Mail server should be pretty quick.

I'll disable email confirmations if people are having trouble but my email just came through in < 10 seconds.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
February 26, 2014, 05:29:42 AM
so altctrldefeated is offline.. the biggest one is closed

? http://air.ctrlaltdefeated.us is working fine!

yep i saw it come back and registered

it was 404ing for me for a while

i'm having another trouble though - the confirmation email hasn't sent, and i can't attach a wallet to payout without that email?

ED: i've got about 8.5MH/s on it now, i'll try not to screw with you too much, i've still got to set up my final 3MH rig, but i'll refrain from pointing it at aircoin until more pools arrive, keep it on clevermining lol. same with my main rig (about 1.5MH)
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AIRcoin Alexander
February 26, 2014, 05:24:48 AM
so altctrldefeated is offline.. the biggest one is closed

? http://air.ctrlaltdefeated.us is working fine!

Verified, the page is perfectly fine.

In MH/S
64 - Network
32 - PitythePool
25 - Ctrlaltdefeated
8 - Unaccounted/AIR Pool/Solomining

It seems that AIR Pool's hashrates are not showing up on the network. There may be an issue with the pool. Adding your 10MH/S to CtrlAltDefeated will not upset the balance too badly. (48%) Pitythepool will have to open new registrations now or we will need to find an additional pool.
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