so this should be the way than I think we are in agreement here so lets patch it up.
I have left a message for mullick stating the new parameters and he should be online in the next 1-2h
good stuff
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I have left a message for mullick stating the new parameters and he should be online in the next 1-2h
good stuff
so this should be the way than I think we are in agreement here so lets patch it up.
I have left a message for mullick stating the new parameters and he should be online in the next 1-2h
i still have a ton of adt1 i can't swap over, come on guys let's just decide and get these chains running so we can use the coin.
how does this sound
2.5% POS / 15 days for 6 months lowering by 0.5% every 6 months until it hits 1%
1000 ADT / POW block 1 block / min to keep the POW going well
that sounds good, we need pow mining a bit i think.
how does this sound
2.5% POS / 15 days for 6 months lowering by 0.5% every 6 months until it hits 1%
1000 ADT / POW block 1 block / min to keep the POW going well
that sounds good, we need pow mining a bit i think.
1000 ADT / block will make just over half a bill coins a year it could be upped to be 10,000 then lowered by 1,000 every 6 months it would get people mining again if that's the route people want to go I will make it happen and make sure I have a server ready to setup a pool on
Yeah either that or POS that makes people hold their coins and wallets open. I think staking daily is the best way like blackcoin.
staking daily would cause a lot of problems and would take a lot to get it all just right its something I have been looking at but right how we need quick and easy then once its all stable we can go from there ( I would want to do a lot of testing before adding something like that )
Whaaatt?
ADT is also POS?
I thought it was POW.
ADT is also POS?
I thought it was POW.
staking keeps he wallets open which we really need.
so this should be the way than I think we are in agreement here so lets patch it up.
i still have a ton of adt1 i can't swap over, come on guys let's just decide and get these chains running so we can use the coin.
how does this sound
2.5% POS / 15 days for 6 months lowering by 0.5% every 6 months until it hits 1%
1000 ADT / POW block 1 block / min to keep the POW going well
that sounds good, we need pow mining a bit i think.
how does this sound
2.5% POS / 15 days for 6 months lowering by 0.5% every 6 months until it hits 1%
1000 ADT / POW block 1 block / min to keep the POW going well
that sounds good, we need pow mining a bit i think.
1000 ADT / block will make just over half a bill coins a year it could be upped to be 10,000 then lowered by 1,000 every 6 months it would get people mining again if that's the route people want to go I will make it happen and make sure I have a server ready to setup a pool on
Yeah either that or POS that makes people hold their coins and wallets open. I think staking daily is the best way like blackcoin.
i still have a ton of adt1 i can't swap over, come on guys let's just decide and get these chains running so we can use the coin.
how does this sound
2.5% POS / 15 days for 6 months lowering by 0.5% every 6 months until it hits 1%
1000 ADT / POW block 1 block / min to keep the POW going well
that sounds good, we need pow mining a bit i think.
how does this sound
2.5% POS / 15 days for 6 months lowering by 0.5% every 6 months until it hits 1%
1000 ADT / POW block 1 block / min to keep the POW going well
that sounds good, we need pow mining a bit i think.
1000 ADT / block will make just over half a bill coins a year it could be upped to be 10,000 then lowered by 1,000 every 6 months it would get people mining again if that's the route people want to go I will make it happen and make sure I have a server ready to setup a pool on
i still have a ton of adt1 i can't swap over, come on guys let's just decide and get these chains running so we can use the coin.
the swap program will be back online as soon as the patch has been running 24-48h after the patch
i still have a ton of adt1 i can't swap over, come on guys let's just decide and get these chains running so we can use the coin.
how does this sound
2.5% POS / 15 days for 6 months lowering by 0.5% every 6 months until it hits 1%
1000 ADT / POW block 1 block / min to keep the POW going well
that sounds good, we need pow mining a bit i think.
how does this sound
2.5% POS / 15 days for 6 months lowering by 0.5% every 6 months until it hits 1%
1000 ADT / POW block 1 block / min to keep the POW going well
that sounds good, we need pow mining a bit i think.
I say just go ahead and as suggested and finish the patch. After all as you say you cant make all happy but better make some happy than being stuck. Just hit sweet spot in between so whoever wants to hold can do and for some quick interest will mean happiness. Its hard but you gotta go with the flow.
I think ADT should just be what the majority wants with some common sense as simple as that. After all we are all here to make a profit so while I get Zach's point of view he really needs to lower his resistance, saying that also ignore crazy ideas as some suggest. ADT can and will be a good coin if partly can run as investors demand and partly if stays true to its original purpose but clearly interest rates need to raise quickly.
Even more important the patch needs to come out ASAP!
Even more important the patch needs to come out ASAP!
changing the POS will also need a hardfork so its best to do both at the same time right now the average that people want is 28% a year if everyone agrees on that I can move forward with it and get this patch finished
no mater what its going to annoy some of the ADT users as there is nothing I can do to keep everyone happy
if there is enough response over the next few h I will be able to tell mullick the new settings and get this patch out as right now half the people want 1 thing and half want the opposite and I am stuck in the middle ( there are a lot of ADT holders that have sent me messages about this )
how does this sound
2.5% POS / 15 days for 6 months lowering by 0.5% every 6 months until it hits 1%
1000 ADT / POW block 1 block / min to keep the POW going well
every 6 months the status of the POW and POS can be reviewed and changes can be discussed at that time
I would also like to remind you all that POS was only 0.005% every 30 days on ADT v1 so by upping it to 0.05 I made it 100X more on ADT v2 !
I think ADT should just be what the majority wants with some common sense as simple as that. After all we are all here to make a profit so while I get Zach's point of view he really needs to lower his resistance, saying that also ignore crazy ideas as some suggest. ADT can and will be a good coin if partly can run as investors demand and partly if stays true to its original purpose but clearly interest rates need to raise quickly.
Even more important the patch needs to come out ASAP!
Even more important the patch needs to come out ASAP!
I have lost more than 0.5B ADT today, becuase of the hard disk error. I have not backup it becuase this is my temp Wallet, and I never think the hard disk will crash. those ADT lost forever.
Use data recovery but DO NOT ATTEMPT yourself take it to a professional. This is what I do for a living.
Mr SaveADT should use his real account and doesn't really know much about the politics. It is open source so really anyone could build for it. Why 10% every 15 days?
POS could work a bit like a derrent to keeping it on an exchange if it were high enough for example if it were 100% a year, after a year of holding it on the exchange it would be worth half as much. POS blocks could be updated for better block finding (possibly minimum stake age compounding). You should look into Ultracions code for how they said you could only mine if you were holding a balance.
You could even check into Nxt for their mining of fees, I'm sure you could route the TX fees back into POS and have staking claim fees along with staked interest. Myriadcoin is a good example of using multi algorithms in one coin. I particularly like features of the x11 coins but I'm still far more partial to Proof of stake but I think Pow could be secured at low hashrates or low yields if done right.
I think it's not so much what the percentage of inflation as how everything will interact with each other that matters.
POS could work a bit like a derrent to keeping it on an exchange if it were high enough for example if it were 100% a year, after a year of holding it on the exchange it would be worth half as much. POS blocks could be updated for better block finding (possibly minimum stake age compounding). You should look into Ultracions code for how they said you could only mine if you were holding a balance.
You could even check into Nxt for their mining of fees, I'm sure you could route the TX fees back into POS and have staking claim fees along with staked interest. Myriadcoin is a good example of using multi algorithms in one coin. I particularly like features of the x11 coins but I'm still far more partial to Proof of stake but I think Pow could be secured at low hashrates or low yields if done right.
I think it's not so much what the percentage of inflation as how everything will interact with each other that matters.
I suggest that zackclark70 hands over ADT to Tranz or Ahmed along with All the un swapped coins , The swap program , All the domains and websites related to ADT then gives over all of his holdings other than 500 mill as a new DEV fund
Once zackclark70 is gone the coin needs changing to
10% POS every 15 days and 25,000 coins per POW block as that would bring new users and only make ADT have 200,000,000,000 coins in 12 months time that should make it half the price of IFC making everyone loads of money and make the zackclark70 donated DEV fund worth around 100k USD giving the new DEVs the money to take ADT to the next level or pay them selves for the work
Once zackclark70 is gone the coin needs changing to
10% POS every 15 days and 25,000 coins per POW block as that would bring new users and only make ADT have 200,000,000,000 coins in 12 months time that should make it half the price of IFC making everyone loads of money and make the zackclark70 donated DEV fund worth around 100k USD giving the new DEVs the money to take ADT to the next level or pay them selves for the work
im sorry but ill never take up adt v2. the only coin which i am dedicating my time to is myriadcoin and it has been like that from the second it launched. it has been the only coin in recent times with potential and a dev who can code. i have no wish to pick up the mess around adt v2. Even if i had my way i would definitely re-enable POW mining with a ppcoin like block reward and increase the Stake amounts which im sure the bag holders here dont want. Secondly Props to Tranz. he has helped numerous coins around and contrary to what zack says he has no responsability towards adt v2. all tranz did was set the stake times and amounts. the rest was done by CRC. We advised zack when we started that we hadnt done a PoS coin before and he has the coin looked over by mullick and paid us. That freed us from our contractual agreement which was to make the coin to his standard.
Ahmed
I suggest that zackclark70 hands over ADT to Tranz or Ahmed along with All the un swapped coins , The swap program , All the domains and websites related to ADT then gives over all of his holdings other than 500 mill as a new DEV fund
Once zackclark70 is gone the coin needs changing to
10% POS every 15 days and 25,000 coins per POW block as that would bring new users and only make ADT have 200,000,000,000 coins in 12 months time that should make it half the price of IFC making everyone loads of money and make the zackclark70 donated DEV fund worth around 100k USD giving the new DEVs the money to take ADT to the next level or pay them selves for the work
Once zackclark70 is gone the coin needs changing to
10% POS every 15 days and 25,000 coins per POW block as that would bring new users and only make ADT have 200,000,000,000 coins in 12 months time that should make it half the price of IFC making everyone loads of money and make the zackclark70 donated DEV fund worth around 100k USD giving the new DEVs the money to take ADT to the next level or pay them selves for the work
i will ignore the first part as this is blatantly an alt account
i think you mean 10% / 30 days lol ( ether that or your calculation is well off )
5% / 15 days for 6 months then dropping by 1% every 3 months until it gets to 1% then it halves every 3 months after that
As long as people don't sell there stake coins they would still have the same over all % of coins in circulation
i would prefer to stay low POS but we could use POS to get ADT upto the original 180 bill it was meant to be if the users wanted that
if we aimed to get it to 160 bill over the next 12 months i don't think that would harm ADT to much in the long term and it can always be changed in the future
i would prefer to keep it low as it would help it be a more stable currency but i know 99% of the people don't care unless it makes them good money
Any other information about this coin ? 
I suggest that zackclark70 hands over ADT to Tranz or Ahmed along with All the un swapped coins , The swap program , All the domains and websites related to ADT then gives over all of his holdings other than 500 mill as a new DEV fund
Once zackclark70 is gone the coin needs changing to
10% POS every 15 days and 25,000 coins per POW block as that would bring new users and only make ADT have 200,000,000,000 coins in 12 months time that should make it half the price of IFC making everyone loads of money and make the zackclark70 donated DEV fund worth around 100k USD giving the new DEVs the money to take ADT to the next level or pay them selves for the work
Once zackclark70 is gone the coin needs changing to
10% POS every 15 days and 25,000 coins per POW block as that would bring new users and only make ADT have 200,000,000,000 coins in 12 months time that should make it half the price of IFC making everyone loads of money and make the zackclark70 donated DEV fund worth around 100k USD giving the new DEVs the money to take ADT to the next level or pay them selves for the work
Have you asked Tranz?
he made it clear last time that he doesn't want to help competing coins
Please don't tell lies. I have done work for ADT twice now. I have helped RPC, TEK, GLB, and a few others. Some for free, and some I have received payment, although I never asked for a penny.
I did give you advice on your ADTv2 to increase not only the PoS interest (slightly) but more importantly to speed up the process. You said No. I listened, and told ahmed you were making a mistake.
I get no less then 10+ PMs a week asking for help with their coins, or creating one for them, ect. I can't do this. So my main response is no, sorry.
I am still at a complete loss, how anyone, and there are many out there, can be an admin of a C++, Crypto Currency, and not be able to code? What exactly are you doing?
Anyway Zach I wish you no ill will. But please don't drag my name through the mud because you are having troubles.
Good luck!
Edit cant find it as there are so many pms and the search is not working
i am 99.99% sure you said that you wouldn't help with the new blockchain as its a competing coin
i remember well as it was just after i paid you 1000usd to patch up the old ADT chain so the swap could happen
i also hear it was you that made the POS part of the ADT v2 code for ahmed if that's the case its your code that's causing the current issue of POS blcoks staking before the client is in sync causing forks
the stake on ADTv2 is over 100X more than it was on ADT1 so that was plenty for the first version and as i have always said it could be changed if the users wanted it and now they want it so its being changed
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