Topic: [ANN] Androids Tokens v2.0 [Proof of Stake] - page 50. (Read 115869 times)

working with COL is not the best idea at this time as I do not agree with some of what you guys want to do / are doing / who made the coin

its nothing against you guys personally but I cannot support something I don't agree with / help with something i don't agree with

you might think that I am just dismissing valid ideas but what you forget is that I have been around here for along time and seen a huge amount of things and what happens when people focus on personal gain when making / running a coin and I do not want to get involved with that as it just causes issues down the line


I know all the basics for changing the code but without paying someone that knows what they are doing to look over it there would likely be issues with it and in my experience its cheaper to get someone to do the code than to get someone to look over it the other benefits are that it frees up time and if there are any issues the person that made that part of the code is liable to fix the issue

I will eventually get to the point of coding a test coin for my personal use only but at this time I have better things to do with my time


To keep people happy in the future I will go into a huge amount of detail  on why an idea would or wouldn't work so that the 0.1% of users that understand it fully know what is going on but please remember that all the time I am making crazy long posts and helping people with there coin issues i cant be contacting people about ADT related stuff and working on the new website ( having to learn a whole load of stuff just for that )

i have found that a lot of coins are willing to ask me about coin related things and ask who to go to for what but when its me needing the help very few people are interested giving the reason that they don't help competing coins  

i will be posting answers to the more complicated suggestions on http://www.the-adt-forum.com/ then linking to that post here as i would prefer to keep the complicated tec talk separate from the general ADT users with the option of them looking at it rather than forcing everyone to read threw long posts about stuff they have no idea about  

what would help me and the users of ADT is if suggestions for ADT are posted on http://www.the-adt-forum.com/ so that each suggestion has its own topic and it can be discussed properly

i need to know from the comunaty if they are happy with upping the POS to 0.15% / 15 days or if a higher or lower number would be better unless people input on this i will have to go with what the few people that have talked to me want and that is  4.5% / year POS

if think a category needs adding to the forum please let me know

i am happy to talk to anyone that has questions live on the forum chatbox everything to do with ADT is openly discussed unlike a fair amount of other coins as i have nothing to hide and transparency is key

( most other coins have issues for a long time before the dev will admit there is an issue ( during that time they get the patch sorted then say they made it the same day the issue was found i am not going to lie if there is an issue i will post about it so people can make fully informed choices )

under the category of Proof of Stake on www.theadtforum.com i will be starting a thread about how much pos would make you keep your wallet open 24/7 if you could post on that it would help a lot !

thanks a lot

zack

It just bugs me when I propose different stuff we can do to work together to help each other and then you just go "that won't work" or "if you learn how to clone and modify code you'll just be tempted to release tons of clones". I'm not saying it to attack you personally and if it seemed that way I'm sorry because I like working along side you Zack, just a pet peeve to always suggest different ideas and alternatives and how it may work and just get a brush off without really discussing how it could be made possible.

sorry if me spending a few days here and there is not good enough but I do want a life outside of the internet

I don't think you have fully followed everything related to ADT v2

there is such a huge amount of stuff that i look into or consider if i posted it on here it would take 10+ very long posts a day to explain in in a way people understand

when i say i will look into it i do actually look into it ! 

i think the meaning of coding has got distorted as coding to me is learning how the actual code works and making new code where to post people coding is just taking other peoples work and patching it together

The current issues with the blockchain could not have been predicted as its a few different things keeping it stuck in a loop of making forks

it is never good practice to keep coins on an exchange and as you should know well that it is never good for 1 person to hold over 51% of a POS coin and right now cryptsy holds over 57% !

i would really like to learn how to code but i end up spending most of my day replying to massages  and helping people with issues / answering peoples questions

i have helped you col guys out a bunch of times and given so much advice and info to you i have no idea why you would post on this thread trying to make it look like i know nothing and spend my days playing with ebikes and digging holes

do you really think i wanted to be digging a new pond in the rain ? its very hard work and it was not optional as the last pond had a big hole in the liner
i would like to spend time playing with my ebike but i haven't had time for that in a while as i have been busy sorting stuff for ADT

 

You can't expect people to listen to you when you say you should keep your coins off exchanges because majority of people don't check Bitcointalk or forums and just buy whatever is going up and keep them on the exchange because it's secure enough and they don't have to take the time to find the wallet, download it, and hope it doesn't get stolen by a virus. If you want people to keep their coins off the exchange it has to be more profitable, more secure and less of a hassle than just leaving it there.

If you want to be the face of the ADT, you need to learn code and dedicate your time to this rather than spending time building e-bikes and digging trenches. I came across the issue your currently dealing with just prior to the Cryptsy swap since Btcltc was swapped a couple weeks prior and you told me "I'll look into it" and suddenly a month later your freaking out because all these forks are happening as a result.

My opinion is that you should take all criticism into account and get into the habit of stopping yourself every time you are about to say "it won't work" because it's all a matter of how it can work and what effect it will have.

yes that will also happen just talking to mullick now to find out if his finished tweaking the code and testing on his end then I will slam a few hundred pos blocks at it then if it passes that there can b 24-48h of open testing then its the full swap over ( I am not taking an risks this time as rushing the testing ends up with problems like we have now )

Maybe you should have a selected few to test it also...


-tb-

mullick had a look over it for free so I wouldn't expect him to have looked at every last bit the code wont show the issue as its partly caused by users ( if they left the wallets open all the time the chances of forks would be near 0 

there will be a patch ASAP but I am not going to release it before its fully tested ( I have a wallet that's due over 3,000 stake tx if it survives that it will be counted as tested ) 

seems the patch which fixes the chain forking with too many stakes at one time is the immediate priority and should be fixed for free at once by the person who created it. I mean that is completely unacceptable.

POW mining on an out of sync wallet is also needing to be fixed of course.

If you paid mullick to look it over and he gave it the OK, his credibility is also in question.

there will be a giveaway over on http://www.the-adt-forum.com/ soon so make sure you pop over there

i am on http://www.the-adt-forum.com/ chatbox right now if anyone would like to talk

the plan has always been to do away with POW once POS is going well

this issue would never have been this big if people had listened and took there coins of cryptsy once it was fixed as every time they stake with a huge amount of coins it forks

also lets not talk about failure. Most people quit in the most difficult times are losers. The winners ride with the storm and live through it that's where the rewards are. Keep going mate!

yep

4.5 per year
fix blocks being generated not connected to the network
(add checkpointing? Though, I thought it already had it.)
phase out PoW
done.  

I told everyone that I will stick with this and I will do that

unfortunately I have no choice other than using those coders to do it as people don't want to hang around and wait for me to learn code !

The fact that I have a huge amount invested in ADT is irrelevant as I would look after it the same if I had £1 invested as I would if I had £1,000,000 invested

Failing is not an option I am going to take

Honestly, few people have put as much time and effort in a coin as you have, but there needs to be a point when you toss the towel in and admit failure.  Paying people numerous times to keep "fixing" things that keeps breaking is not helping the direction of the coin, basically people that can code are bleeding you, while I appreciate your effort and time that you put into this, there is a time to put a fork in a project and move on, no matter how vested you are.

To get ADT really going again it is going to take some effort from the ADT comunaty I need to know who is willing to help and in what ways

I will be redoing the ADT forum tonight

There will be votes and topics on what people want from ADT if you don't participate in this please don't complain about what happens !

I will be taking 1 month out from all my projects and my work to do this after the month I will spend every other day working on ADT  

I cannot do any more than that

I've been around since day 1. I opt for option 2. Just do it quickly:)

1 > lowering the time would just make the problems even worse
2 > increasing the stake would make more people have there wallets open so that is a good option
3 > pow would just cause more issues than we already have if it was worth mining as we would have to deal with pools , multi pools and what not


anyone that holds ADT or has been a long term member of the ADT comunaty is welcome to pm me any ideas they have all the 1 post accounts that pm saying I should up the POS to over 300% are going to be ignored !

Really there's 3 options here.

1) Reduce Staking Time and percentage so it is the current percentage but more frequently
2) Increase stake percentage and therefore inflation
3) Get PoW rolling again and get the chain secured that way.

If you guys dont choose a way, you're all going to be going round and round in circles and ADTv2 like i said will go nowhere.