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Topic: [ANN] [ASIC-RESISTANT] UltraCoin (UTC) - Ultrafast 6 second transactions!! - page 316. (Read 946650 times)

legendary
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jakiman is back!
reward decrease will only decrease the amount of coins mined per day. nothing else.
that is good for the coin in the long term not short term. people will hold their utc because they know there is not as many coins that are made each day to be dumped. also more people would buy it for the same reason.

the amount of coins you have wont change, the amount of total coins wont change.

Yes, I know exactly what Block reward decreasing will do.
But not as many coins to dump? I beg to differ.
Less coins, higher price means less coins dumped still results in same amount of BTC.

Rough calculations:
28800 LTC per day x $16 = $46000 USD per day
28800 VTC per day x $1.7 = $48960 USD per day
144000 UTC per day x 0.11 = $15000 USD per day.

As you can see, the rate of inflation of Ultracoin is 3x less than LTC and VTC at current price.
This means UTC could be at least 3x the price right now with similar demand as the other two.
But recently, as seen by the down trend, we are not even sustaining $15000 USD per day.

If we reduce the block reward to 10, naturally, price might go up about 4x right now.
But on the way, some big holders will start to dump their wad of UTC. So maybe 2-3x.
But with current demand level, we are no better off and will continue down trend.

So what we want is to at least gain 3x more people to buy/mine/trade more than right now.
But why stop there? Let's think of ways to do much better than that.

I'm not saying reducing the block reward to 10 is a bad idea. It's fine really.
But I'm saying that it's NOT the solution to the lack of buyers/miners/traders.
hero member
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@halofirebtc
what i posted in voting thread:

utc is not litecoin or vertcoin. utc is utc. no comparison needed. 25 if anything, can't rock the coin too hard. nfactor already too fast. provide function for utc, get buyers and spread the coin out. price rises. supply doesn't matter as long as there are buyers and hype.
legendary
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jakiman is back!

I'm trying to get my head around why reducing block reward will make Ultracoin better.

If we reduce the block count and if market cap remain the same, then we will have 3-4x less coins that are worth 60cents each.
Many people who has a lot of coins bought or mined cheap will just dump. Newcomers will lose out.

You have to realize that # of coins don't matter too much as we have 8 decimal places to work with in the crypto world.
People will still sell in smaller amounts. But at the end, it will be the same in worth. (Except current bag holders. =p)

Unless UTC increase demand through improvements / marketing, it won't grow in market cap meaning still just as not good for the coin.
Instead of trying to tighten the supply in hope to increase price, let's think of ways and "do" in order to increase UTC's market cap.

I voted for 10 still as I hold enough coins which will make it worth while. (If I sell some of it)
But it also means many others like me who hold lots of UTC will think the same. (sell for profit)
That's actually not good for the coin. You want people to hold their coins longer knowing that it will increase more.
But if demand doesn't increase, bag holders will dump and and we'll be back to where we are now. (or worse)
full member
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Agree:

UTC

50 UTC / 30 s

LTC

50 LTC / 2.5 min

Voted 10 UTC

However the question does this really help? I see many coins which are super hard to be mined almost died now.
sr. member
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 Grin utc is going back to .00008 lets sing a utc song.
hero member
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@halofirebtc
let this coin get mined as it is. An unpredisposed cutting of reward isn't going to affect price in short term, save for a spike then return, if that's one aim. BC is all mined out, it's doing just fine.
legendary
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jakiman is back!
Decreasing reward only benefits the people who mined/bought UTC before the fork.
It does not really benefit the coin itself nor for the new miners / investors.
Don't just think that reducing the block reward is the answer. It's not.
Doesn't matter what the block reward is, if people want it, demand will increase.

Ultracoin is in a situation like many other generic altcoins.
It needs something to make it really stand out from the crowd.
Speed is great but it's not enough to create any buzz.

We need bigger scale (expensive unfortunately) marketing technique that creates global news headlines.
Something of a very big scale.


Some wild examples:
1. Ultracoin ATMs (buy Ultracoins using BTC/LTC/FIAT, withdraw only cash)
2. Major partnership with a global payment processing company. (e.g. Paypal)
3. Creation of an Ultracoin payment processing company. (ala Bitpay)
4. Celebrity endorsement. Send them like 20000+ Ultracoins. =p
5. Multipool that mines Scrypt and exchanges for BTC to but UTC. (Like Blackcoin)

But yeah, Ultracoin still needs a stronger foundation of apps/services around it.
More mobile apps, games, sites, better desktop app, p2p pools etc etc etc.

My 2 cents...
newbie
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i think reward should decrease from 50 to 10..
member
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Premine 2%
Reward 50---> 10

--> Premine 10%  Huh Huh Huh
full member
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http://ultracoin.net/ - Ultracoin Website http://c
its been 10 days now since the last pump of utc  Roll Eyes
the ouput of utc is too high,more than 140000 utc has been produced perday.The buyers' money run out,
full member
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its been 10 days now since the last pump of utc  Roll Eyes

UTC will do good, we are just in a bitcoin under 600 slump.
Whenever BTC goes under 600, people hold back the $$$$$
newbie
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its been 10 days now since the last pump of utc  Roll Eyes
member
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Dcgirl what would we do without you?

In the darkest times, when all hope seemed lost, indeed you were there to comfort us and guide us.
hero member
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@halofirebtc
guys whats the best WU number for r290 card?

150-170 for mine.
may i learn your config ?

try one of the config's posted at nitro Wink if they don't work, pm me.
newbie
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sr. member
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I've released a beta version of the UTC charts at http://utccharts.com. I'm also creating a thread on the forum (http://forum.ultracoin.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=559) for discussion, bugs, suggestions, etc. Please feel free to send me your thoughts! I may not implement everything asked for, but will consider everything. Here's another screenshot of the "compare exchanges" chart. I like this one.

Amazing work!!!!

Amazing work! keep up the perfect work what you do on UTC! Smiley
sr. member
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Is there a Ultra coin professional here ?

I have got the feeling it is a good moment to invest... as if, tomorow UCT could be at 44 000, Huh
full member
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We're all good at something, no1's good for nothin
Why should I buy Ultracoin? What's the difference to Vertcoin?

Sorry if your question has been drowned out, as everyone is excited about Dcgirl's chart (looks nice btw! good job!), but as Batty634 stated, it's mostly the speed for full confirmation, gearing it to be a better contender for a coin that can favored by both spenders and merchants. Essentially (my words here not the community's) everything WDC aimed to be, minus the scams.
legendary
Activity: 1638
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jakiman is back!
I've released a beta version of the UTC charts at http://utccharts.com. I'm also creating a thread on the forum (http://forum.ultracoin.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=559) for discussion, bugs, suggestions, etc. Please feel free to send me your thoughts! I may not implement everything asked for, but will consider everything. Here's another screenshot of the "compare exchanges" chart. I like this one.

Amazing work!!!!
newbie
Activity: 36
Merit: 0
I've released a beta version of the UTC charts at http://utccharts.com. I'm also creating a thread on the forum (http://forum.ultracoin.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=559) for discussion, bugs, suggestions, etc. Please feel free to send me your thoughts! I may not implement everything asked for, but will consider everything. Here's another screenshot of the "compare exchanges" chart. I like this one.

https://i.imgur.com/rnvqacT.png

Impressive! Even looks better than Bitcoinwisdom.
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