Anyone here in contact with YoMix? They could potentially save me from being scammed.
Please tell them to look into my support tickets regarding following transaction: 6044896d116b6f23ad218ceac7b2333728b148d6e64f149ddbf00f05bcad7742
thanks
Topic: [ANN] [banned mixer] | Best Bitcoin Mixer | Low fees | Fully automated - page 2. (Read 4030 times)
October 11, 2023, 02:29:20 AM
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September 27, 2023, 06:36:37 PM
I have a question about service fee, why is it always changing?, when I refresh the mixer, the service fee changes to: 4.637%, 3.017%, 1.055%, ..etc. I never got the service fee 0.7% or bottom.
You can use the sliders to find the appropriate fee. To get the lowest service fee, try sliding the transfer delay slider to the rightmost position (although I see this doesn't affect the service fee) and the service fee slider to the leftmost position. Here is an example of the minimum service fee that I got:
However, it is best to use the random amount of transactions option (minimum service fee of 1.7%) to increase anonymity further.
No javascript site generates random fee every time you reload page, in full version you can manually set it using slider.
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September 20, 2023, 04:27:00 PM
when I refresh the mixer, the service fee changes to: 4.637%, 3.017%, 1.055%, ..etc. I never got the service fee 0.7% or bottom.
0.7% is their minimum service feeI think they need to add some info about service fees under the FAQs
I also believe that there are other elements that determine the value of the fees, including withdrawals from more than one address and time intervals between transfers. In general, users always prefer services with lower fees if they trust them, so it is important to indicate all the details to avoid any confusion. YoMix has become known as the most affordable mixer among all competitors in the market.
September 19, 2023, 05:51:48 PM
I have a question about service fee, why is it always changing?,
Self-explanatory, is it?If a mixer is charging a particular fee, then it's easy for the blockchain analytic services to deanonymize and point out where the transactions come from Random = Hard to deanonymize.
when I refresh the mixer, the service fee changes to: 4.637%, 3.017%, 1.055%, ..etc. I never got the service fee 0.7% or bottom.
0.7% is their minimum service feeI think they need to add some info about service fees under the FAQs
September 19, 2023, 08:15:36 AM
I have a question about service fee, why is it always changing?, when I refresh the mixer, the service fee changes to: 4.637%, 3.017%, 1.055%, ..etc. I never got the service fee 0.7% or bottom.
I think that it is part of greater anonymity and potential concealment that coins go through the mixer, with different fees for each transaction. Just imagine if there was a fixed fee of 0.75% for all transactions, it would mark all Yomix transactions in some way. After a while, as soon as you see a 0.75% fee on a transaction, you automatically know where these funds came from, without the need for further verification.
You have a slider, so at the end, you choose which fee you want to pay. I recommend that it always be different.
September 18, 2023, 09:08:10 PM
Captcha appears only on Tor Domain.
Yes for sure, I tried also on the Chrome browser, and a captcha doesn't appear like I used TOR. but sometimes, like a day ago when I used the Tor browser, A captcha didn't appear like used before, may be true it depends on the relay at that time.I have a question about service fee, why is it always changing?, when I refresh the mixer, the service fee changes to: 4.637%, 3.017%, 1.055%, ..etc. I never got the service fee 0.7% or bottom.
thanks for advance.
September 18, 2023, 10:31:12 AM
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This topic was posted a while ago, which indicates the possibility of hacking central mixing services[1] because mixing services follow a specific pattern. With deep analysis, you may be able to understand this specific pattern, and then it will be easy for you to know the deposits of all users (their patterns are random) compared to the deposits of the mixing service (coins). Mixer bitcoins which usually follows a systematic approach and accordingly you can link income transactions with output by deducting fees and you will get a list of user addresses before and after mixing.
What I am trying to say here is that I noticed in [banned mixer] withdrawal fees are not chosen by the user. If there was an option to make them available to the user or make them random, it would enhance privacy.
Other than that I didn't find anything, you did a great job especially NO java script version.
[1] Breaking Mixing Services
No javascript site generates random fee every time you reload page, in full version you can manually set it using slider.This topic was posted a while ago, which indicates the possibility of hacking central mixing services[1] because mixing services follow a specific pattern. With deep analysis, you may be able to understand this specific pattern, and then it will be easy for you to know the deposits of all users (their patterns are random) compared to the deposits of the mixing service (coins). Mixer bitcoins which usually follows a systematic approach and accordingly you can link income transactions with output by deducting fees and you will get a list of user addresses before and after mixing.
What I am trying to say here is that I noticed in [banned mixer] withdrawal fees are not chosen by the user. If there was an option to make them available to the user or make them random, it would enhance privacy.
Other than that I didn't find anything, you did a great job especially NO java script version.
[1] Breaking Mixing Services
Also, we have multitransaction option which totally breaks this problem you mentioned .
September 16, 2023, 04:08:33 AM
Super Bump to this topic
This topic was posted a while ago, which indicates the possibility of hacking central mixing services[1] because mixing services follow a specific pattern. With deep analysis, you may be able to understand this specific pattern, and then it will be easy for you to know the deposits of all users (their patterns are random) compared to the deposits of the mixing service (coins). Mixer bitcoins which usually follows a systematic approach and accordingly you can link income transactions with output by deducting fees and you will get a list of user addresses before and after mixing.
What I am trying to say here is that I noticed in [banned mixer] withdrawal fees are not chosen by the user. If there was an option to make them available to the user or make them random, it would enhance privacy.
Other than that I didn't find anything, you did a great job especially NO java script version.
[1] Breaking Mixing Services
This topic was posted a while ago, which indicates the possibility of hacking central mixing services[1] because mixing services follow a specific pattern. With deep analysis, you may be able to understand this specific pattern, and then it will be easy for you to know the deposits of all users (their patterns are random) compared to the deposits of the mixing service (coins). Mixer bitcoins which usually follows a systematic approach and accordingly you can link income transactions with output by deducting fees and you will get a list of user addresses before and after mixing.
What I am trying to say here is that I noticed in [banned mixer] withdrawal fees are not chosen by the user. If there was an option to make them available to the user or make them random, it would enhance privacy.
Other than that I didn't find anything, you did a great job especially NO java script version.
[1] Breaking Mixing Services
September 13, 2023, 10:12:12 PM
I don't know if this captcha is for a user TOR only, but for a site that manages user funds is a good step for security. and, sometimes I have to do it twice because got a wrong answer, but I feel there is no fault I did before. I don't know if this is a TOR connection problem, or the captcha. But so far, I don't have a problem with the mixer as long as I use it.
I am not a big fan of TOR as I cannot use a fast internet connection. TOR slows it down further, so I am unsure if it's the same with the TOR. But I just tried the clearnet domain, which is [banned mixer], and everything is so smooth. I tried creating an order, but it did not ask for a captcha verification. So, either it's only for TOR or random for every user. -snip-
I just tried opening /]https://[banned mixer]/ (Clearnet) using Firefox and /]http://[banned mixer]/ (Tor Domain) using Tor Browser; Captcha appears only on Tor Domain.
Several times, I filled in answers that I was sure were correct but were considered Wrong captcha answers, and on the third time, I was finally able to continue with Mixing Order.
I tried creating an order, but it did not ask for a captcha verification. So, either it's only for TOR or random for every user.
Yes, maybe true what you said, That looks like random because when I tried to use it back with TOR today, the site didn't ask me for a captcha again. maybe this depends on the TOR relay, Maybe the other day I got a relay where the location have a lot of traffic.It may be due to common causes such as the following:
What triggers a CAPTCHA test?
Some web properties just automatically have CAPTCHAs in place as a proactive defense against bots. Other times, a test may be triggered if user behavior seems to resemble a bot's behavior: if users request webpages or click hyperlinks at a far higher rate than average, for instance.
Some web properties just automatically have CAPTCHAs in place as a proactive defense against bots. Other times, a test may be triggered if user behavior seems to resemble a bot's behavior: if users request webpages or click hyperlinks at a far higher rate than average, for instance.
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September 13, 2023, 07:43:30 PM
I noticed this when use my Opera browser with the free VPN turned on. Almost every Cloudflare protected site hates the Opera VPN mode, with various checks on most websites.
I have Opera browser installed as well and it keeps asking to make it the default browser. Poor Opera doesn't know I like Edge more since the last update of it. Opera Improved a lot but I didn't It has a built-in VPN in it. I guess I have heard before but did not try. Thanks for the reminder anyway.
The captcha challenge Yomix uses is actually better, the most annoying is the one of with grainy images of crosswalks, bicycles, traffic lights 
Motor cycle, cars and bus suck as well. The frustrating thing is when I keep solving it ask for the next captcha. Supposedly I completed four captcha but in the end it incorrect captcha and I had to do it multiple times. It mostly happens when I try to login into the forum. My ISP never knows when it provides 50mbps speed and when it provides 50kbps speed. Sometimes the captcha does not even load and says cannot connect reCaptcha. LOL.
September 13, 2023, 05:44:48 PM
In my case, most of the time, it happens if I use free VPNs. Even If I try to access the google.com home page, it asks for a captcha verification. Sometimes even it does not let me verify the captcha saying my computer sending too many requests.
Probably because the attackers mostly use those free VPN services and Tor to attack the websites. So those IP addresses get blacklisted by Cloudflare or any other DDoS protection service. No, when you decide to use the same VPN to access such a site, you are instantly taken to a checkpoint.I noticed this when use my Opera browser with the free VPN turned on. Almost every Cloudflare protected site hates the Opera VPN mode, with various checks on most websites.
The captcha challenge Yomix uses is actually better, the most annoying is the one of with grainy images of crosswalks, bicycles, traffic lights
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September 13, 2023, 09:46:46 AM
I tried creating an order, but it did not ask for a captcha verification. So, either it's only for TOR or random for every user.
Yes, maybe true what you said, That looks like random because when I tried to use it back with TOR today, the site didn't ask me for a captcha again. maybe this depends on the TOR relay, Maybe the other day I got a relay where the location have a lot of traffic.Captcha is not random but depends on several situations. Like, are you coming from a new IP address, Has the IP address you are currently using already accessed that site, Are you as a user already solving a captcha from the same provider (it may even be a completely different website)
That's why it can happen that sometimes it's enough to just click on the captcha field, and sometimes it's enough to go through a complete verification.
In my case, most of the time, it happens if I use free VPNs. Even If I try to access the google.com home page, it asks for a captcha verification. Sometimes even it does not let me verify the captcha saying my computer sending too many requests. Which I believe is because of the free VPN I use. Possibly a large number of users using same IP address to access google at that time.
So I agree that the same thing may applied to other website as well. Sometimes solving captcha is frustrating because even if I select the right image, it asks me to verify again and it happens multiple times.
September 13, 2023, 03:52:16 AM
I tried creating an order, but it did not ask for a captcha verification. So, either it's only for TOR or random for every user.
Yes, maybe true what you said, That looks like random because when I tried to use it back with TOR today, the site didn't ask me for a captcha again. maybe this depends on the TOR relay, Maybe the other day I got a relay where the location have a lot of traffic.Captcha is not random but depends on several situations. Like, are you coming from a new IP address, Has the IP address you are currently using already accessed that site, Are you as a user already solving a captcha from the same provider (it may even be a completely different website)
That's why it can happen that sometimes it's enough to just click on the captcha field, and sometimes it's enough to go through a complete verification.
September 12, 2023, 10:40:53 PM
Sometimes it's easy to miss other numbers in the captcha box because they are written in different colours so you have to be very keen especially if you have some colour blindness disorder.
It's possible that one of the color numbers is blurry, so in this case, I can't read it correctly. Maybe this could be a serious problem for those who have a color-blind.I tried creating an order, but it did not ask for a captcha verification. So, either it's only for TOR or random for every user.
Yes, maybe true what you said, That looks like random because when I tried to use it back with TOR today, the site didn't ask me for a captcha again. maybe this depends on the TOR relay, Maybe the other day I got a relay where the location have a lot of traffic. September 12, 2023, 07:57:34 AM
I don't know if this captcha is for a user TOR only, but for a site that manages user funds is a good step for security. and, sometimes I have to do it twice because got a wrong answer, but I feel there is no fault I did before. I don't know if this is a TOR connection problem, or the captcha. But so far, I don't have a problem with the mixer as long as I use it.
Sometimes it's easy to miss other numbers in the captcha box because they are written in different colours so you have to be very keen especially if you have some colour blindness disorder.I tried to recreate the same issue on Tor with 5 random orders, but I didn't get any issue solving the captcha on the first attempt. The captcha is definitely put there to avoid things like DDoS attacks, which are rampant on Bitcoin mixers lately.
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September 11, 2023, 09:12:43 PM
I don't know if this captcha is for a user TOR only, but for a site that manages user funds is a good step for security. and, sometimes I have to do it twice because got a wrong answer, but I feel there is no fault I did before. I don't know if this is a TOR connection problem, or the captcha. But so far, I don't have a problem with the mixer as long as I use it.
I am not a big fan of TOR as I cannot use a fast internet connection. TOR slows it down further, so I am unsure if it's the same with the TOR. But I just tried the clearnet domain, which is [banned mixer], and everything is so smooth. I tried creating an order, but it did not ask for a captcha verification. So, either it's only for TOR or random for every user.
I remember when I used a VPN, even Google asked me to verify the re-captcha to show the search results. I don't know the exact reason, but as they say, Your computer sends too many requests or something. I have been using a paid VPN for the last few months and haven't seen re-captcha since then (for Google search).
September 11, 2023, 08:17:32 PM
I don't know if this captcha is for a user TOR only, but for a site that manages user funds is a good step for security. and, sometimes I have to do it twice because got a wrong answer, but I feel there is no fault I did before. I don't know if this is a TOR connection problem, or the captcha. But so far, I don't have a problem with the mixer as long as I use it.
August 26, 2023, 06:24:38 AM
Okay, that's what I thought. So, I think it's better to use this mixer without mixing code because it's a popular mixer with high mixing volume I assume. If the volume is high, then the chances of getting my coins back should be very low or the time when I receive my coins back, they will already be clean.
Small Bitcoin volumes, yes, but this is a very different opinion from someone looking to mix 10 or 50 BTC each week or month 
Hence, they’ve got to have a lot of holdings of there own to do the mixing in between addresses as well. Just trying to understand but, it would take a lot of automated process that guarantees customers safety and gains there confidence.
When you say, chances of getting larger volumes initiated for mixing is slim,
Are you in anyway referring to the possibility of mixers having to do away with your funds because it’s worth ending there services for?
August 19, 2023, 05:06:17 AM
But when you proceed to the next step on 'Your Mixing Order' as I mentioned here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62675758
The mixing code is automatically filled, and you can't delete it.
Please try to prove it.
That code is unique for each mixing session where you left the Mixing Code field empty.The mixing code is automatically filled, and you can't delete it.
Please try to prove it.
When you start a new mixing session, you get mixing code, like you got ein6nqjgenl. Let's assume you finished the mixing session. Now open a new tab and you want to mix coins. You are free to leave the Mixing Code empty. If you leave it empty, then new Mixing Code will be generated but that means absolutely nothing we I don't use it, so, you are not forced to use mixing code. If you were forced to do, then you wouldn't be able to leave Mixing Code field empty on your every next session.
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