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Quote from: Synchronice on August 19, 2023, 05:22:48 AM

Okay, let me clarify this thing.
You said that I have to use code, I underlined it in your quote. You have to means that I must do, I'm forced to use that code and all I said is that I'm not forced and it absolutely depends on me whether I use that code or not.
There is an option to not use the mixing code, simply leave the field empty.

On the start page or the first time you use Yo!Mix, you can still leave the empty code;

But when you proceed to the next step on 'Your Mixing Order' as I mentioned here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62675758
The mixing code is automatically filled, and you can't delete it.

Please try to prove it.

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Quote from: Husna QA on August 19, 2023, 04:05:10 AM

Quote from: Synchronice on August 17, 2023, 04:54:06 PM

Quote from: Husna QA on August 10, 2023, 11:05:04 AM

In the "Your Mixing Order" session, you cannot delete the Mixing code listed there, so you have to use it, whether it's new code or code that has been generated before.

I believe I don't have to use that code and it absolutely depends on my free will.

But there is no option not to use the mixing code that appears when you use the Yo!Mix service. An option still possible is using a new code every time you transact there.

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What mixing code is?

After first mixing at [banned mixer] you will receive a unique code. With help of this code, we guarantee that you will never receive your own coins from previous transactions. Simply use this code for all your future mixing orders.

Okay, let me clarify this thing.
You said that I have to use code, I underlined it in your quote. You have to means that I must do, I'm forced to use that code and all I said is that I'm not forced and it absolutely depends on me whether I use that code or not.
There is an option to not use the mixing code, simply leave the field empty.
We probably misunderstood each-other Cheesy

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Quote from: Synchronice on August 17, 2023, 04:54:06 PM

Quote from: Husna QA on August 10, 2023, 11:05:04 AM

In the "Your Mixing Order" session, you cannot delete the Mixing code listed there, so you have to use it, whether it's new code or code that has been generated before.

I believe I don't have to use that code and it absolutely depends on my free will.

But there is no option not to use the mixing code that appears when you use the Yo!Mix service. An option still possible is using a new code every time you transact there.

Quote from: Gladitorcomeback on August 18, 2023, 05:44:33 AM

its mean we should always use fo Tor browser for mix btc to hide our IP and our browsing history.

You don't always have to use the Tor Browser, but if you want more privacy, at least Tor Browser currently has that feature compared to other browsers (https://tb-manual.torproject.org/about/).

Quote from: Gladitorcomeback on August 18, 2023, 05:44:33 AM

In most of the browser I notice that there is " Incognito Tab " where history not saving. If we use this, will it will be safe to use Yomix swap or still there is possibility of leaking information?

You can read more about it at the following link:
https://nordvpn.com/blog/incognito-mode-not-as-private-as-you-think/

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Quote from: Husna QA on August 10, 2023, 11:05:04 AM

Even if you use a browser other than Tor, at least use a private/incognito window so that when you access the Yo!Mix website, all your activities, including the mixing code-generated session, can be more private and not stored in the browser history, but that does not make you anonymous.

Unlike the Tor browser, which provides more features, such as disguising the user's IP address so that it is not easily tracked.

its mean we should always use fo Tor browser for mix btc to hide our IP and our browsing history. In most of the browser I notice that there is " Incognito Tab " where history not saving. If we use this, will it will be safe to use Yomix swap or still there is possibility of leaking information?

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Quote from: Husna QA on August 10, 2023, 11:05:04 AM

In the "Your Mixing Order" session, you cannot delete the Mixing code listed there, so you have to use it, whether it's new code or code that has been generated before.

I believe I don't have to use that code and it absolutely depends on my free will.

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Quote from: Synchronice on August 10, 2023, 08:29:02 AM

Okay, that's what I thought. So, I think it's better to use this mixer without mixing code because it's a popular mixer with high mixing volume I assume. If the volume is high, then the chances of getting my coins back should be very low or the time when I receive my coins back, they will already be clean.

Small Bitcoin volumes, yes, but this is a very different opinion from someone looking to mix 10 or 50 BTC each week or month Cheesy

Personally, I don't know how mixers manage their wallets to offer anonymous service and it will be very interesting if someone, at least briefly explains the case. Mixers should be doing coinjoin inside the system to refresh received coins, they also need to move funds between different addresses. Operating of mixer safely to protect your and users privacy shouldn't be an easy process.

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Quote from: Synchronice on August 10, 2023, 08:29:02 AM

Okay, that's what I thought. So, I think it's better to use this mixer without mixing code because it's a popular mixer with high mixing volume I assume. If the volume is high, then the chances of getting my coins back should be very low or the time when I receive my coins back, they will already be clean.

Small Bitcoin volumes, yes, but this is a very different opinion from someone looking to mix 10 or 50 BTC each week or month Cheesy

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Quote from: Flexystar on August 08, 2023, 03:30:00 AM

This means Tor or No Tor it doesn’t matter when the codes generated. You can just use any type of browser and still safe about it.

Even if you use a browser other than Tor, at least use a private/incognito window so that when you access the Yo!Mix website, all your activities, including the mixing code-generated session, can be more private and not stored in the browser history, but that does not make you anonymous.

Unlike the Tor browser, which provides more features, such as disguising the user's IP address so that it is not easily tracked.

Quote from: Synchronice on August 10, 2023, 08:29:02 AM

Okay, that's what I thought. So, I think it's better to use this mixer without mixing code because it's a popular mixer with high mixing volume I assume. If the volume is high, then the chances of getting my coins back should be very low or the time when I receive my coins back, they will already be clean.

In the "Your Mixing Order" session, you cannot delete the Mixing code listed there, so you have to use it, whether it's new code or code that has been generated before.

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Quote from: NotATether on August 10, 2023, 08:24:21 AM

Quote from: Synchronice on August 10, 2023, 08:21:25 AM

Quote from: NotATether on August 10, 2023, 08:20:15 AM

Quote from: Synchronice on August 10, 2023, 08:17:05 AM

Website states that it saves only necessary technical information during the effect period of your order but at the same time mixer gives us a mixing code that will guarantee that we will never receive our coins from previous transactions. Does this mean that mixing code acts like a tracking agent? It looks like a good and bad way for privacy at the same time. Good cause it's gonna save me from getting back my previous coins but at the same time it looks like it stores my mixing history. Can anyone confirm whether am I right or wrong?

No. The mixing code is not a tracking agent because it's not used to collect additional data from your device.

I don't say that it collects additional data from my device but it looks like it collects data of my transactions that are done through the mixer. Isn't it so?

If you give multiple mixes the same mixing code, then yes, whoever runs the database can identify that the mixes are being done by the same person.

You can just make a new mix with a blank mixing code if you want to get another one and without being identified, although you might want to check the UTXOs to make sure that (as the website says) you're not getting your own coins back.

Okay, that's what I thought. So, I think it's better to use this mixer without mixing code because it's a popular mixer with high mixing volume I assume. If the volume is high, then the chances of getting my coins back should be very low or the time when I receive my coins back, they will already be clean.

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Quote from: Synchronice on August 10, 2023, 08:21:25 AM

Quote from: NotATether on August 10, 2023, 08:20:15 AM

Quote from: Synchronice on August 10, 2023, 08:17:05 AM

Website states that it saves only necessary technical information during the effect period of your order but at the same time mixer gives us a mixing code that will guarantee that we will never receive our coins from previous transactions. Does this mean that mixing code acts like a tracking agent? It looks like a good and bad way for privacy at the same time. Good cause it's gonna save me from getting back my previous coins but at the same time it looks like it stores my mixing history. Can anyone confirm whether am I right or wrong?

No. The mixing code is not a tracking agent because it's not used to collect additional data from your device.

I don't say that it collects additional data from my device but it looks like it collects data of my transactions that are done through the mixer. Isn't it so?

If you give multiple mixes the same mixing code, then yes, whoever runs the database can identify that the mixes are being done by the same person.

You can just make a new mix with a blank mixing code if you want to get another one and without being identified, although you might want to check the UTXOs to make sure that (as the website says) you're not getting your own coins back.

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Quote from: NotATether on August 10, 2023, 08:20:15 AM

Quote from: Synchronice on August 10, 2023, 08:17:05 AM

Website states that it saves only necessary technical information during the effect period of your order but at the same time mixer gives us a mixing code that will guarantee that we will never receive our coins from previous transactions. Does this mean that mixing code acts like a tracking agent? It looks like a good and bad way for privacy at the same time. Good cause it's gonna save me from getting back my previous coins but at the same time it looks like it stores my mixing history. Can anyone confirm whether am I right or wrong?

No. The mixing code is not a tracking agent because it's not used to collect additional data from your device.

I don't say that it collects additional data from my device but it looks like it collects data of my transactions that are done through the mixer. Isn't it so?

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Quote from: Synchronice on August 10, 2023, 08:17:05 AM

Website states that it saves only necessary technical information during the effect period of your order but at the same time mixer gives us a mixing code that will guarantee that we will never receive our coins from previous transactions. Does this mean that mixing code acts like a tracking agent? It looks like a good and bad way for privacy at the same time. Good cause it's gonna save me from getting back my previous coins but at the same time it looks like it stores my mixing history. Can anyone confirm whether am I right or wrong?

No. The mixing code is not a tracking agent because it's not used to collect additional data from your device.

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Website states that it saves only necessary technical information during the effect period of your order but at the same time mixer gives us a mixing code that will guarantee that we will never receive our coins from previous transactions. Does this mean that mixing code acts like a tracking agent? It looks like a good and bad way for privacy at the same time. Good cause it's gonna save me from getting back my previous coins but at the same time it looks like it stores my mixing history. Can anyone confirm whether am I right or wrong?

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Quote from: NotATether on August 08, 2023, 02:18:55 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on July 20, 2023, 10:22:18 PM

Quote from: logfiles on July 20, 2023, 08:35:18 AM

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Cache cannot be used by webpages to identify your browser session, because it is just pages and images, fonts, CSS locally stored on your device.

The only way a website can keep identifying you when you keep visiting is if they set a cookie (or if you just log in), or by using a fingerprinting library. So assuming this mixer just sets a cookie to identify you[1], the code cannot be the same in an incognito session.

[1]: That is assuming it sets cookies at all. I strongly believe that mixers do not need to set cookies for any reason.

This means Tor or No Tor it doesn’t matter when the codes generated. You can just use any type of browser and still safe about it.

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Quote from: blue Snow on July 20, 2023, 10:22:18 PM

Quote from: logfiles on July 20, 2023, 08:35:18 AM

I noticed that when I created a mixing order on clearnet, then after some minutes I created another one. The same mixing code would appear in the mixing code slot.
When I tried to replicate the same using the Tor Mirror, different mixing codes always appeared on each order, even if you created two orders with two open tabs. My question is;

1. Which one is intended and which one is not (Different mixing codes by default vs Mixing code getting automatically saved in the browser)?

As far I know when we use Clearnet browsers where (deleted cookies and cache by default are off *) always create the same code on the slot.
while Tor browser is always deleted cookies and cache by default so that create different code in every order.
So I think, for privacy tor is the best, but we can set also up the Clearnet browser like Tor to make the same experience.

I don't know how important it is, but I never use the code when mixing, I don't know what it does and function. many argue that code for as not to repeat the same mixing, but my experience (never used code 3 time) I never received the same mixed address

Cache cannot be used by webpages to identify your browser session, because it is just pages and images, fonts, CSS locally stored on your device.

The only way a website can keep identifying you when you keep visiting is if they set a cookie (or if you just log in), or by using a fingerprinting library. So assuming this mixer just sets a cookie to identify you[1], the code cannot be the same in an incognito session.

[1]: That is assuming it sets cookies at all. I strongly believe that mixers do not need to set cookies for any reason.

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Quote from: blue Snow on July 20, 2023, 10:22:18 PM

Quote from: logfiles on July 20, 2023, 08:35:18 AM

I noticed that when I created a mixing order on clearnet, then after some minutes I created another one. The same mixing code would appear in the mixing code slot.
When I tried to replicate the same using the Tor Mirror, different mixing codes always appeared on each order, even if you created two orders with two open tabs. My question is;

1. Which one is intended and which one is not (Different mixing codes by default vs Mixing code getting automatically saved in the browser)?

As far I know when we use Clearnet browsers where (deleted cookies and cache by default are off *) always create the same code on the slot.
while Tor browser is always deleted cookies and cache by default so that create different code in every order.
So I think, for privacy tor is the best, but we can set also up the Clearnet browser like Tor to make the same experience.

I don't know how important it is, but I never use the code when mixing, I don't know what it does and function. many argue that code for as not to repeat the same mixing, but my experience (never used code 3 time) I never received the same mixed address

Is it true that cookies and cache will affect the mixing of bitcoin to such extend? What if I am not willing to use the Tor and just go for the incognito mode so that no cookies or cache will be traced thus resolving the purpose of same code generation?

Has someone already tried this type of mixing and does it generate the different code every time?

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I don't know how important it is, but I never use the code when mixing, I don't know what it does and function. many argue that code for as not to repeat the same mixing, but my experience (never used code 3 time) I never received the same mixed address

As mentioned by @Agbe they stated that code is just used to retrieve the settings that we used that means it doesn't really has significant purpose in minting your coin. I think we should be just fine using the normal browser too since Yo!Mix will anyway give us privacy with it's own mixing feature. At least I would love to think so!

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Quote from: logfiles on July 21, 2023, 06:58:14 PM

Quote from: blue Snow on July 20, 2023, 10:22:18 PM

So I think, for privacy tor is the best,

This is very true.

Quote from: blue Snow on July 20, 2023, 10:22:18 PM

I don't know how important it is, but I never use the code when mixing, I don't know what it does and function. many argue that code for as not to repeat the same mixing, but my experience (never used code 3 time) I never received the same mixed address

Yeah, the mixing code ensures that in the future when you are mixing using YoMix, you will never get sent back the coins you ever sent to the platform for mixing in the past.

As time goes on, things will probably be different without the use of the mixing code. I am sure you mixed a few Bitcoins, which is why you never received from the same mixed address.

The mixing code repeatedly appears in chrome browser when you login to Yo!mix to mix coins and the code appears when you use the same details you used before. If you used different details then the website will also generate new mixing code for you. And really for privacy purpose it is better to use Tor browser so that the code would not be saved in the browser and new code would be generated whenever you are mixing coins.

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Quote from: blue Snow on July 20, 2023, 10:22:18 PM

So I think, for privacy tor is the best,

This is very true.

Quote from: blue Snow on July 20, 2023, 10:22:18 PM

I don't know how important it is, but I never use the code when mixing, I don't know what it does and function. many argue that code for as not to repeat the same mixing, but my experience (never used code 3 time) I never received the same mixed address

Yeah, the mixing code ensures that in the future when you are mixing using YoMix, you will never get sent back the coins you ever sent to the platform for mixing in the past.

As time goes on, things will probably be different without the use of the mixing code. I am sure you mixed a few Bitcoins, which is why you never received from the same mixed address.

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Quote from: logfiles on July 20, 2023, 08:35:18 AM

I noticed that when I created a mixing order on clearnet, then after some minutes I created another one. The same mixing code would appear in the mixing code slot.
When I tried to replicate the same using the Tor Mirror, different mixing codes always appeared on each order, even if you created two orders with two open tabs. My question is;

1. Which one is intended and which one is not (Different mixing codes by default vs Mixing code getting automatically saved in the browser)?

As far I know when we use Clearnet browsers where (deleted cookies and cache by default are off *) always create the same code on the slot.
while Tor browser is always deleted cookies and cache by default so that create different code in every order.
So I think, for privacy tor is the best, but we can set also up the Clearnet browser like Tor to make the same experience.

I don't know how important it is, but I never use the code when mixing, I don't know what it does and function. many argue that code for as not to repeat the same mixing, but my experience (never used code 3 time) I never received the same mixed address

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I noticed that when I created a mixing order on clearnet, then after some minutes I created another one. The same mixing code would appear in the mixing code slot.
When I tried to replicate the same using the Tor Mirror, different mixing codes always appeared on each order, even if you created two orders with two open tabs. My question is;

1. Which one is intended and which one is not (Different mixing codes by default vs Mixing code getting automatically saved in the browser)?

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