[ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees - page 462.

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Clean Code and Scale

Quote from: classicsucks on November 17, 2017, 03:17:23 AM

Quote from: tekmobile on November 16, 2017, 02:21:12 PM

Quote from: classicsucks on November 16, 2017, 02:14:31 PM

Quote from: tekmobile on November 16, 2017, 11:36:52 AM

This is the exact reason BTC has a whole 2 week difficulty adjust and not some short quick if no hashing is available downward adjust

The EDA was designed to stop the bcash chain dying and now it's being used against it because now the EDA is allowing the old chain to be mineable on lesser hardware and being used to attack9

Im not sure on the legibility but there was talks that the EDA could actually cause a chain reorg where the SPV wallets could start following this EDA chain over the DAA one

OK lemme get this straight, a fork that is 100 blocks behind the main chain is a threat how? And someone is going to replay transactions on this sh!tchain and anyone will care? That chain is not a coin, it's worthless! I really hope you're not losing too much sleep about that. Or, maybe you should convince an exchange to list that defunct chain?

Also how is your Bitcoin Gold investment faring? I tried to tell you to GTFO before the dump.

Looks like Vitalik got some death threats? Or he just can't take anymore whining... I thoroughly enjoyed his twitter threads taking apart Kore devs piece by piece - they were sabotaging him so much he built his own chain...

http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/11/14/vitalik-buterin-silenced-wont-comment-bitcoin-issues

100 blocks behind with the EDA dropping the difficulty fast then all it needs is some more hashing power and it can get through a full 2016 period in a matter of days

remember when cash was so far behind btc and the eda helped it get 9000+ infront well the same can happen here

As for gold im good thanks it was all free and the extra I have gained was mined for next to nothing minus the little bit I bought I am well in front

You're right, the chain could become longer quickly with empty blocks... but again, if there is no support, no coin. My guess would be that anyone mining it is just trying to FUD BCH.

Furthermore, weren't you the one who was screaming about BCH hyperinflation when the blocks were coming too fast? You can't have it both ways.

Glad you got out of Bitcoin Gold. That's one that even I was tempted to short...

Question would be: Is it economical relevant ? Is there a market and so pays for the miners ?

I cannot see - so miners will starve here.

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It is like Bitcoincash is going to 0.5 btc again in Poloniex.

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Quote from: tekmobile on November 16, 2017, 02:21:12 PM

Quote from: classicsucks on November 16, 2017, 02:14:31 PM

Quote from: tekmobile on November 16, 2017, 11:36:52 AM

This is the exact reason BTC has a whole 2 week difficulty adjust and not some short quick if no hashing is available downward adjust

The EDA was designed to stop the bcash chain dying and now it's being used against it because now the EDA is allowing the old chain to be mineable on lesser hardware and being used to attack9

Im not sure on the legibility but there was talks that the EDA could actually cause a chain reorg where the SPV wallets could start following this EDA chain over the DAA one

OK lemme get this straight, a fork that is 100 blocks behind the main chain is a threat how? And someone is going to replay transactions on this sh!tchain and anyone will care? That chain is not a coin, it's worthless! I really hope you're not losing too much sleep about that. Or, maybe you should convince an exchange to list that defunct chain?

Also how is your Bitcoin Gold investment faring? I tried to tell you to GTFO before the dump.

Looks like Vitalik got some death threats? Or he just can't take anymore whining... I thoroughly enjoyed his twitter threads taking apart Kore devs piece by piece - they were sabotaging him so much he built his own chain...

http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/11/14/vitalik-buterin-silenced-wont-comment-bitcoin-issues

100 blocks behind with the EDA dropping the difficulty fast then all it needs is some more hashing power and it can get through a full 2016 period in a matter of days

remember when cash was so far behind btc and the eda helped it get 9000+ infront well the same can happen here

As for gold im good thanks it was all free and the extra I have gained was mined for next to nothing minus the little bit I bought I am well in front

You're right, the chain could become longer quickly with empty blocks... but again, if there is no support, no coin. My guess would be that anyone mining it is just trying to FUD BCH.

Furthermore, weren't you the one who was screaming about BCH hyperinflation when the blocks were coming too fast? You can't have it both ways.

Glad you got out of Bitcoin Gold. That's one that even I was tempted to short...

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Quote from: classicsucks on November 17, 2017, 02:54:13 AM

Quote from: serby10101010001100010 on November 17, 2017, 02:22:06 AM

Nice bch move this morning guys. https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7di95l/5726_of_all_btc_addresses_are_frozen_in_fees/

Was about to post this - it's a shocking statistic! People correctly pointed out that you can create a transaction with multiple inputs, effectively "unfreezing" the balances, but then your transaction gets bigger and it's time for a bigger fee... somebody estimated that 25% of UTXOs are "underwater", ie. unable to be spent because the fee is higher than the total amount.

LOL somebody asked "Why are u even using Bitcoin"? Classic Kore-troll response. The retort: "I won't be much longer, I'm running out of time to cash out"...

I saw the discussion you had with tek yesterday about this issue, the answer he gave about throwing some hashing power at btc to solve this frozen fees problem did not convince me.

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Quote from: serby10101010001100010 on November 17, 2017, 02:22:06 AM

Nice bch move this morning guys. https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7di95l/5726_of_all_btc_addresses_are_frozen_in_fees/

Was about to post this - it's a shocking statistic! People correctly pointed out that you can create a transaction with multiple inputs, effectively "unfreezing" the balances, but then your transaction gets bigger and it's time for a bigger fee... somebody estimated that 25% of UTXOs are "underwater", ie. unable to be spent because the fee is higher than the total amount.

LOL somebody asked "Why are u even using Bitcoin"? Classic Kore-troll response. The retort: "I won't be much longer, I'm running out of time to cash out"...

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Quote from: derekis126 on November 17, 2017, 02:32:00 AM

Bitcoin cash is the store of transaction, if bitcoin claims to be the store of value. BCH is much faster and stable on network. I think it will surpass ETH's market cap again.

I second that.

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Bitcoin cash is the store of transaction, if bitcoin claims to be the store of value. BCH is much faster and stable on network. I think it will surpass ETH's market cap again.

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Nice bch move this morning guys. https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7di95l/5726_of_all_btc_addresses_are_frozen_in_fees/

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Quote from: xtimus on November 17, 2017, 01:21:14 AM

How do I split my Bitcoin Cash into Bitcoin Clashic and Bitcoin Cash DAA?

You don't , There is only 1 Bitcoin Cash with the updated DAA.

Alot of asshats are spreading fud there are multiple forks , I suggest you PM tekmobile directly since he is one of them and ask him. Cheesy

https://cash.coin.dance/blocks
It is currently 42.7% more profitable to mine on the Bitcoin Cash blockchain

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How do I split my Bitcoin Cash into Bitcoin Clashic and Bitcoin Cash DAA?

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Anyone have any news on the Segwit2X going ahead

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Bitcoin Withdrawals to be halted at 6pm (SG Time) due to Segwit2x Fork
Dear User,

Kindly note that we will be halting all withdrawals of Bitcoin at 6pm (Singapore Time) today, 17th November 2017.

If you wish to move any Bitcoin, kindly do so before the stated time.

Why is Coinhako halting withdrawals?

A group of miners have decided to go ahead with the Segwit2x and Bitcoin will be faced with another fork at block 494784.
This is estimated to occur at 10pm to 12am (Singapore Time), 17th November 2017.

Coinbase : https://blog.coinbase.com/bitcoin-segwit2x-update-b69a1c1e5ece

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Last week, the Segwit2x development team announced they would no longer continue with the project.
In addition, a significant portion of miners and other community leaders withdrew their support for the fork.
However, despite these developments, a small number of miners may attempt to go forward with a fork.

Not Safe to move Core's Bitcoin Around today unless you do it way before the forked block.
Then prepare for it to be frozen for a few hours , until a winner is decided.

Bitcoin Cash as usual is safe to use all day.

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Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on November 17, 2017, 12:58:41 AM

rodger verr bad man? why fraudulate the bitcoin?

Sometimes I think Roger Ver like a Mephistophiles from Doctor Faustus - I am part of that power which eternally wills evil and eternally works good...

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rodger verr bad man? why fraudulate the bitcoin?

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Quote from: elberto on November 16, 2017, 07:40:43 PM

The BilderBerg Group owns Blockstream which pays the Bitcoin Core Developers. Bitcoin is being run by the elites. You all that think your beating the banks buy buying Bitcoin. Decentralized really? Do you want to know who "Satoshi Nakamoto" really is? Research what "Satoshi Nakamoto" means in Japanese aka "Central Intelligent". I don't know any agency that goes by that name. Did you know Gavin met with the CIA then Satoshi vanished shortly afterwards not to be heard from again. Do your own homework people. Trust but verify is the motto. Wink

FYI Bitcoin Cash will survive with the largest miner backing it and Roger Ver. This is just like ETH/ETC debate. BTC fans should go pump their Bilderberg coin and leave the Bitcoin Cash folks alone.

BTC is settlement coin for rich technocrats and corporations including the BBG and others.

BCH is Bitcoin as defined in the white-paper as a peer-to-peer digital cash system (for everyone) not just rich technocrats.

BTG is Bitcoin because every CPU means every CPU/GPU/ASIC possible not just ASIC. BCH is much more centralized than BTG today.

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Quote from: Children of Gaia on November 17, 2017, 12:49:49 AM

Quote from: inturist on November 17, 2017, 12:43:01 AM

Bla Bla Bla to the Moon Sad

. What is the market? Bit-Z and Cryptopia Undecided

. $BTX now has a chinese name! "Super-Bit" Huh

Chinese are Chinese Grin

Ok, will see about that. Told you once, won't warn you agan.

HitBTC today, btw.

Ok, we will see about it.

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Quote from: inturist on November 17, 2017, 12:43:01 AM

Bla Bla Bla to the Moon Sad

. What is the market? Bit-Z and Cryptopia Undecided

. $BTX now has a chinese name! "Super-Bit" Huh

Chinese are Chinese Grin

Ok, will see about that. Told you once, won't warn you agan.

HitBTC today, btw.

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Quote from: Children of Gaia on November 17, 2017, 12:18:19 AM

Quote from: gembitz on November 16, 2017, 08:41:47 PM

Quote from: uDwcHYO on November 16, 2017, 07:53:36 PM

only in crypto we can see so huge pump and dump in short time. A couple of days ago there was so much talk about replacing btc and bch...

BTX now replacing ABCash :-D weee

Spaceship is loading. Pack your bags. Next stop - Moon. BTX 5kk/EMC2 10k weee.
P.S. sell BCH and buy BTX fast. Last chance.

Bla Bla Bla to the Moon Sad

. What is the market? Bit-Z and Cryptopia Undecided

. $BTX now has a chinese name! "Super-Bit" Huh

Chinese are Chinese Grin

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Quote from: gembitz on November 16, 2017, 08:41:47 PM

Quote from: uDwcHYO on November 16, 2017, 07:53:36 PM

only in crypto we can see so huge pump and dump in short time. A couple of days ago there was so much talk about replacing btc and bch...

BTX now replacing ABCash :-D weee

Spaceship is loading. Pack your bags. Next stop - Moon. BTX 5kk/EMC2 10k weee.
P.S. sell BCH and buy BTX fast. Last chance.

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lose: unfind ... loose: untight

Quote from: ZhuldyzKaladinova on November 16, 2017, 06:27:38 PM

Quote from: jbreher on November 16, 2017, 06:21:22 PM

OK, so what is your definition of Bitcoin? Whatever the maintainers of the Core github repository jam down your throat?

Bitcoin is Bitcoin

Yes, but a tautology is not a definition.

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Quote from: ZhuldyzKaladinova on November 16, 2017, 06:21:17 PM

Quote from: jbreher on November 16, 2017, 05:55:43 PM

No, your claim that I quoted -- which most closely matches your moving goalpost -- is "BCH was created in a plot to 'kill BTC'". Either you are trying to weasel out of your claim, or you do not understand elementary logic.
I've seen you post a photo with some apparent BCH supporters together, such photo having been posted by (likely) one of them, with an attached message that says in part something akin to 'death to segwit' or some such. Posted on facebook, IIRC. Is this supposed to be your evidence that "BCH was created in a plot to 'kill BTC'"? If so, then again, you FAIL.

The Facebook link showing part of the gang next to the announcement of the plot is crucial indeed, yet of course it is by far not the only evidence. Your personal inability to connect the dots does not stop the world from looking right through the scam plot.

Your spokesperson, Fake Satoshi Fraud aka Craig Wright even openly retweets posts as the below: https://twitter.com/Egon_01/status/929230161375088640
https://i.imgur.com/kme8Tjx.png

First off, there is nothing in that picture, nor post, nor your recent CSW quote that asserts that "BCH was created in a plot to 'kill BTC'". Second, Craig Wright is not any sort of BCH spokesperson. Third, CSW had nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin Cash. Neither did Calvin Ayres, nor even Roger Ver. Again - you FAIL.

Still awaiting that evidence...

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