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[AMA] I am Amaury Séchet (/u/deadalnix) Bitcoin ABC lead dev, first implementation of Bitcoin Cash. Ask me anything!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoincash/comments/6y7ssg/ama_i_am_amaury_s%C3%A9chet_udeadalnix_bitcoin_abc/

BITTOPIA - Understanding Bitcoin Cash with Amaury Séchet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j7vTK4eXYM
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BCC had a nice spring back, dead?  Grin

BTC difficulty adjustment soon.

It's looking more and more as if both will coexist for now.

Race to the moon!

Both will co-exist there is no doubt about this and as for the upcoming difficulty adjust its looking like BTC will increase and BCH will decrease which will probably put BCH ahead in profitability and we know how that will probably turn out  

Which date/day will this happen? (Sorry if stupid question)

At current speeds BTC just under 24hours and BCH just over a week

Thank you. Hm, so this will mean BCH price will probably go up a bit in that time if I understood you correctly.

No it does not work like that the price can even go down the price is what the users determine it is worth depending on how many want to buy or sell

If a greater amount is being sold compared to buyers it goes down and if a greater amount is being bought compared to being sold it goes up it has nothing to do with the difficulty most of the miners will just put hashrate onto which is most profitable

When BCH is more profitable you generally get a lot move over and this causes a huge difficulty increase over a few days making it unprofitable then they all leave again leaving it dead for a day until the emergency difficulty reduction kicks in
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BCC had a nice spring back, dead?  Grin

BTC difficulty adjustment soon.

It's looking more and more as if both will coexist for now.

Race to the moon!

Both will co-exist there is no doubt about this and as for the upcoming difficulty adjust its looking like BTC will increase and BCH will decrease which will probably put BCH ahead in profitability and we know how that will probably turn out  
let me guess,
it could result in you getting more donations of your new fav coin, bch  Wink Tongue
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BCC had a nice spring back, dead?  Grin

BTC difficulty adjustment soon.

It's looking more and more as if both will coexist for now.

Race to the moon!

Both will co-exist there is no doubt about this and as for the upcoming difficulty adjust its looking like BTC will increase and BCH will decrease which will probably put BCH ahead in profitability and we know how that will probably turn out  

Which date/day will this happen? (Sorry if stupid question)

At current speeds BTC just under 24hours and BCH just over a week
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BCH is a failed altcoin...
Argumentation is one thing but BCH is number 3 in https://coinmarketcap.com, it is even bigger than Ripple and Litecoin.

...why do you lie?
You think that a market cap for a currency is valid / significant metric? Damn you've been doing some hard kool-aid. Roll Eyes

If market size is not a metric for this, then I do not know what is. That is what shows how much money/people in it.

I think there is something wrong with you.

No it does not as it takes into account ALL coins in existence including lost ones i wallets and ones locked up in places like coinbase  

There could be 16M BCH issued and all but 10 for example are lost with 10 people fighting over them saying they are worth 1k that would give a market cap of $16000000000 and you think this is more relevant than millions upon millions giving for example 8M BTC that are not lost a value of 1k with the same market cap of $16000000000

Now lets look at the ones in use
BCH 10x $1000 = $4000
BTC 8000000 x $1000 = $8000000000

Now granted these are unrealistic and made up numbers but it shows why the marketcap is useless


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BCC had a nice spring back, dead?  Grin

BTC difficulty adjustment soon.

It's looking more and more as if both will coexist for now.

Race to the moon!

Both will co-exist there is no doubt about this and as for the upcoming difficulty adjust its looking like BTC will increase and BCH will decrease which will probably put BCH ahead in profitability and we know how that will probably turn out  
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lols stupid trolls are back,

now, wheres that blackwidow and the $400 bitcoin cash, going to $50  Cheesy
 has he crawled back into his hole  Cheesy
i was gonna quote him since i qualify according to his previous post about making profits from alts from the begining lol.

next time you run your mouth here about $50 bitcoin cash, make sure you have a bit of substance to your stupid claims young spider

pro tip for you widow...hope you didnt sell your bitcoincash, 0.12 is as cheap as it gets.



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BCC had a nice spring back, dead?  Grin

BTC difficulty adjustment soon.

It's looking more and more as if both will coexist for now.

Race to the moon!
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BCH is a failed altcoin...
Argumentation is one thing but BCH is number 3 in https://coinmarketcap.com, it is even bigger than Ripple and Litecoin.

...why do you lie?
You think that a market cap for a currency is valid / significant metric? Damn you've been doing some hard kool-aid. Roll Eyes
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The movement of Bitcoin Cash shows that it is pretty much just another altcoin. I realized that many people were of the opinion that Bitcoin Cash will take over should the real Bitcoin drop. Can't really see that happening.
I'm not even sure why people would want BCH to become BTC when one of the main person behind BCH split already mentioned that BCH is not BTC.


Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin, segwitcoin is the fork.

And it is not a become, it already is.  Segwitcoin propaganda has hidden that from the majority.

Also goes to show that the Bitcoin Cash Holders think for their-selves and don't follow a playbook like segwit supporters (that regurgitate everything G.Maxwell says.)


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Why did the team behind BCH NOT declare BCH as the new BTC then? Your argument might make more sense if they did openly say BCH is the new BTC. I might even agree with you too if BCH was declared as the real BTC but why isn't that the case??

The upcoming Segwitx2 (if it happens) is going to call their Segwitx2 as the real BTC and not some other name like BCH.

There's no need to declare Cash the real Bitcoin.
For me, both Cash and Segwit should be considered forks of the original Bitcoin chain.
Now, we just need to wait for the market to handle this mess.

Indeed, the market is god. Not who says and does what and not.
Gravitation towards that direction which it gravitates, for the reasons that it gravitates.

Yeah, I do feel your sarcasm   Cheesy
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The movement of Bitcoin Cash shows that it is pretty much just another altcoin. I realized that many people were of the opinion that Bitcoin Cash will take over should the real Bitcoin drop. Can't really see that happening.
I'm not even sure why people would want BCH to become BTC when one of the main person behind BCH split already mentioned that BCH is not BTC.


Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin, segwitcoin is the fork.

And it is not a become, it already is.  Segwitcoin propaganda has hidden that from the majority.

Also goes to show that the Bitcoin Cash Holders think for their-selves and don't follow a playbook like segwit supporters (that regurgitate everything G.Maxwell says.)


╥Aztek
Why did the team behind BCH NOT declare BCH as the new BTC then? Your argument might make more sense if they did openly say BCH is the new BTC. I might even agree with you too if BCH was declared as the real BTC but why isn't that the case??

The upcoming Segwitx2 (if it happens) is going to call their Segwitx2 as the real BTC and not some other name like BCH.

There's no need to declare Cash the real Bitcoin.
For me, both Cash and Segwit should be considered forks of the original Bitcoin chain.
Now, we just need to wait for the market to handle this mess.

Indeed, the market is god. Not who says and does what and not.
Gravitation towards that direction which it gravitates, for the reasons that it gravitates.
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The movement of Bitcoin Cash shows that it is pretty much just another altcoin. I realized that many people were of the opinion that Bitcoin Cash will take over should the real Bitcoin drop. Can't really see that happening.
I'm not even sure why people would want BCH to become BTC when one of the main person behind BCH split already mentioned that BCH is not BTC.


Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin, segwitcoin is the fork.

And it is not a become, it already is.  Segwitcoin propaganda has hidden that from the majority.

Also goes to show that the Bitcoin Cash Holders think for their-selves and don't follow a playbook like segwit supporters (that regurgitate everything G.Maxwell says.)


╥Aztek
Why did the team behind BCH NOT declare BCH as the new BTC then? Your argument might make more sense if they did openly say BCH is the new BTC. I might even agree with you too if BCH was declared as the real BTC but why isn't that the case??

The upcoming Segwitx2 (if it happens) is going to call their Segwitx2 as the real BTC and not some other name like BCH.

There's no need to declare Cash the real Bitcoin.
For me, both Cash and Segwit should be considered forks of the original Bitcoin chain.
Now, we just need to wait for the market to handle this mess.
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The movement of Bitcoin Cash shows that it is pretty much just another altcoin. I realized that many people were of the opinion that Bitcoin Cash will take over should the real Bitcoin drop. Can't really see that happening.
I'm not even sure why people would want BCH to become BTC when one of the main person behind BCH split already mentioned that BCH is not BTC.


Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin, segwitcoin is the fork.

And it is not a become, it already is.  Segwitcoin propaganda has hidden that from the majority.

Also goes to show that the Bitcoin Cash Holders think for their-selves and don't follow a playbook like segwit supporters (that regurgitate everything G.Maxwell says.)


╥Aztek


Why did the team behind BCH NOT declare BCH as the new BTC then? Your argument might make more sense if they did openly say BCH is the new BTC. I might even agree with you too if BCH was declared as the new BTC but why isn't that the case??

The upcoming Segwitx2 (if it happens) is going to call their Segwitx2 as the real BTC and not some other name like BCH.


Look at the past 2 years of Bitcoin community. The information you ask is everywhere. It is a matter of letting yourself look at it.
Analogy: hundreds of years ago if anyone questioned church and state, they would be ridiculed. Nowadays, if anyone were to question Segwit, they would be ridiculed.
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The movement of Bitcoin Cash shows that it is pretty much just another altcoin. I realized that many people were of the opinion that Bitcoin Cash will take over should the real Bitcoin drop. Can't really see that happening.
I'm not even sure why people would want BCH to become BTC when one of the main person behind BCH split already mentioned that BCH is not BTC.


Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin, segwitcoin is the fork.

And it is not a become, it already is.  Segwitcoin propaganda has hidden that from the majority.

Also goes to show that the Bitcoin Cash Holders think for their-selves and don't follow a playbook like segwit supporters (that regurgitate everything G.Maxwell says.)


╥Aztek
Why did the team behind BCH NOT declare BCH as the new BTC then? Your argument might make more sense if they did openly say BCH is the new BTC. I might even agree with you too if BCH was declared as the real BTC but why isn't that the case??

The upcoming Segwitx2 (if it happens) is going to call their Segwitx2 as the real BTC and not some other name like BCH.
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Lauda, your actions show your character, thus showing your motive.
And your statements show your intellect/knowledge or lack thereof. Stop writing nonsense just to rank up the account, alright?

A dead coin is a dead coin. But you make it seem alive.
BCH is a failed altcoin with: 1) Extreme mining centralization. 2) No proven developers. 3) Malicious individuals behind it. Even if no real user touched this with a fork in years, Ver & co have enough money to lose mining and spamming transactions to make it seem alive. Stop drinking the kool-aid and supporting scams.

Lauda, I can taste your fear. Your heartbeat is racing. Your panic. Even this very message you are reading is already showing me the next thing that is occurring within you.

...A lot of people are telling me in trading rooms that they do not want to buy BCH because mining is centralized. I always ask them if they would have refused to buy Bitcoin in 2009 because mining was centralized. The conversation always stops here and I never got an answer.
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Lauda, your actions show your character, thus showing your motive.
And your statements show your intellect/knowledge or lack thereof. Stop writing nonsense just to rank up the account, alright?

A dead coin is a dead coin. But you make it seem alive.
BCH is a failed altcoin with: 1) Extreme mining centralization. 2) No proven developers. 3) Malicious individuals behind it. Even if no real user touched this with a fork in years, Ver & co have enough money to lose mining and spamming transactions to make it seem alive. Stop drinking the kool-aid and supporting scams.
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If BCH was insignificant, then it would be treated as such. But with how many people come in here to "put in their word", it makes it a compelling significance.
That is absolute bullshit, otherwise any random token with a shit ton of paid baboons, having hundreds of pages would have "compelling significance". Either you're spamming or you're drinking kool-aid. Pick the lesser evil. Roll Eyes

Lauda, your actions show your character, thus showing your motive.

A dead coin is a dead coin. But you make it seem alive.
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If BCH was insignificant, then it would be treated as such. But with how many people come in here to "put in their word", it makes it a compelling significance.
That is absolute bullshit, otherwise any random token with a shit ton of paid baboons, having hundreds of pages would have "compelling significance". Either you're spamming or you're drinking kool-aid. Pick the lesser evil. Roll Eyes
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If BCH was insignificant, then it would be treated as such. But with how many people come in here to "put in their word", it makes it a compelling significance.

To see the forums for any coin that is truly dead or dying, it is a ghost town. No one cares.

But here, people put it on top of a gigantic pedastal the more they add to it with what they believe will "help" people to realize that it is "insignificant".
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Terminated.
Small reminder again:

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Roger Ver lies more often than he tells the truth. This is not an attack, just an objective observation of the facts.
"Mt. Gox is totally fine."... shortly thereafter Mt. Gox implodes ... "I am here to 'apologize'. Even though everything I said when I told you 'Mt. Gox is fine' was true, I am sorry that some of you lost money when it collapsed. Buy ether."
"I am banned from posting in /r/Bitcoin" ... accidentally posts to /r/Bitcoin ... "Oops. Now I'll pretend like I never claimed to be banned from /r/Bitcoin, and ignore anyone who asks me about that claim."
"I've dumped a few hundred BTC for BCC"... 2 weeks later: "I haven't sold a single Bitcoin for Bitcoin Cash up until yesterday"
He lies about the subreddit he controls. He regularly lies about his holdings. He lied and scammed his way into the bitcoin.com domain, which he uses to push out FUD about Bitcoin and its developers. He lies on agreements he signs (e.g. "the bitcoin.com pool will mine with NYA/btc1/2x code... whoops just kidding, we're mining bcash instead"). He even had the audacity to lie about what happened in court, when there is a public transcript available which disproves everything he said.
There are more examples of blatant deception that I don't have the time or patience to dig up right now. Make no mistake: the man is, unfortunately, a sociopath.
Source with full links here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6xpu8j/roger_ver_lies/

The amount of shills defending this altcoin, which is arguably worse than a good amount of the shitcoins out there, is astronomical. How much exactly are you paying people for so much shilling mr. Ver? Roll Eyes
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