Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees - page 666. (Read 704812 times)
Mathematical Proof That the Lightning Network Cannot Be a Decentralized Bitcoin Scaling Solution
https://medium.com/@jonaldfyookball/mathematical-proof-that-the-lightning-network-cannot-be-a-decentralized-bitcoin-scaling-solution-1b8147650800
The Illusion of Scale in Segregated Witness
https://nchain.com/en/blog/illusion-scale-segregated-witness/
Risk of SegWit – Mining Cartels
https://nchain.com/en/blog/risks-of-segregated-witness-mining-cartels/
8 times Core told people Segwit is a Blocksize Increase
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6wml7g/8_times_core_told_people_segwit_is_a_blocksize/
Continued Discussion on why Lightning Network Cannot Scale
https://medium.com/@jonaldfyookball/continued-discussion-on-why-lightning-network-cannot-scale-883c17b2ef5b
Dr. Peter Rizun - SegWit Coins are not Bitcoins - Arnhem 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoFb3mcxluY
Amaury Sechet - Back to the Basics - Arnhem 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By0w43NQdiY&list=PLW5YLgBF2qh_1NKB3hW24cg26KSTCsTjY&index=16
Nikita Zhavoronkov - *Why* Bitcoin needs a Scaling Solution - Arnhem 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIM8mQfs1Xk&list=PLW5YLgBF2qh_1NKB3hW24cg26KSTCsTjY&index=3
Bitcoin is Being Hot-Wired for Settlement
https://medium.com/@jgarzik/bitcoin-is-being-hot-wired-for-settlement-a5beb1df223a
Another very old trick folks
Technobabble
Look up its defination.
You think this guy put all this together in the last 5 min?
I understand it.
But most of you see it as:
Well put together
Looks very professional
And admit it, MOST not all, have no idea what it means
Im going to bed now, well continue tomm
The floor is yours WHALES
DONT BE SUPRISED IT THEY PUSH IT BACK UP TO 500 SOON, THEN IT WILL FALL AND FALL, AND YOU WILL HAVE HOPE IT WILL GO BACK UP AGAIN, AND YOU WILL BE LEFT HOLDING A WORTHLESS BAG
HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF
AND THIS IS TEXTBOOK, ONE FOR THE AGES
And then on the thread tomm, you will hear inexperienced Bitcoin Cash Coin bagholders repeating these talking points, having no idea what they really mean.
Just like the mass media fake news
Wake up people, but I feel bad, this one is so slick many of you will lose your shirt
Mathematical Proof That the Lightning Network Cannot Be a Decentralized Bitcoin Scaling Solution
https://medium.com/@jonaldfyookball/mathematical-proof-that-the-lightning-network-cannot-be-a-decentralized-bitcoin-scaling-solution-1b8147650800
The Illusion of Scale in Segregated Witness
https://nchain.com/en/blog/illusion-scale-segregated-witness/
Risk of SegWit – Mining Cartels
https://nchain.com/en/blog/risks-of-segregated-witness-mining-cartels/
8 times Core told people Segwit is a Blocksize Increase
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6wml7g/8_times_core_told_people_segwit_is_a_blocksize/
Continued Discussion on why Lightning Network Cannot Scale
https://medium.com/@jonaldfyookball/continued-discussion-on-why-lightning-network-cannot-scale-883c17b2ef5b
Dr. Peter Rizun - SegWit Coins are not Bitcoins - Arnhem 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoFb3mcxluY
Amaury Sechet - Back to the Basics - Arnhem 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By0w43NQdiY&list=PLW5YLgBF2qh_1NKB3hW24cg26KSTCsTjY&index=16
Nikita Zhavoronkov - *Why* Bitcoin needs a Scaling Solution - Arnhem 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIM8mQfs1Xk&list=PLW5YLgBF2qh_1NKB3hW24cg26KSTCsTjY&index=3
Bitcoin is Being Hot-Wired for Settlement
https://medium.com/@jgarzik/bitcoin-is-being-hot-wired-for-settlement-a5beb1df223a
Bitcoin is about being hard money. If 100% of everything mines and controls Bitcoin, the security model is HARD — no government, no company, and no one can take it over. If/when we split onto sidechains, a piece of what secures the network is taken away. Scaling is meant to be done on-chain. Removal of the block limit is the proper scaling solution. AKA ... Bitcoin Cash
https://medium.com/@jonaldfyookball/mathematical-proof-that-the-lightning-network-cannot-be-a-decentralized-bitcoin-scaling-solution-1b8147650800
The Illusion of Scale in Segregated Witness
https://nchain.com/en/blog/illusion-scale-segregated-witness/
Risk of SegWit – Mining Cartels
https://nchain.com/en/blog/risks-of-segregated-witness-mining-cartels/
8 times Core told people Segwit is a Blocksize Increase
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6wml7g/8_times_core_told_people_segwit_is_a_blocksize/
Continued Discussion on why Lightning Network Cannot Scale
https://medium.com/@jonaldfyookball/continued-discussion-on-why-lightning-network-cannot-scale-883c17b2ef5b
Dr. Peter Rizun - SegWit Coins are not Bitcoins - Arnhem 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoFb3mcxluY
Amaury Sechet - Back to the Basics - Arnhem 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By0w43NQdiY&list=PLW5YLgBF2qh_1NKB3hW24cg26KSTCsTjY&index=16
Nikita Zhavoronkov - *Why* Bitcoin needs a Scaling Solution - Arnhem 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIM8mQfs1Xk&list=PLW5YLgBF2qh_1NKB3hW24cg26KSTCsTjY&index=3
Bitcoin is Being Hot-Wired for Settlement
https://medium.com/@jgarzik/bitcoin-is-being-hot-wired-for-settlement-a5beb1df223a
Bitcoin is about being hard money. If 100% of everything mines and controls Bitcoin, the security model is HARD — no government, no company, and no one can take it over. If/when we split onto sidechains, a piece of what secures the network is taken away. Scaling is meant to be done on-chain. Removal of the block limit is the proper scaling solution. AKA ... Bitcoin Cash
Lets not forget my first prediction, BItcoin Cash coin wont die, it will level out around $50 in a month or two.
Read both sides of arguement over the last 15-20 pages, and make your own informed decision as to who you think is right.
Do you think the powers that be are going to let almost 100 BILLION DOLLARS slip through their fingers?
This is just a parlor trick, slight of hand, and they will take your money and end up breaking 100 Billion with this brilliant checkmate, at those who are uninformed expense, just like the whales have always done.
Dont say I didnt warn you.
Its just so easy to see for me, but I dont blame you, these guys have this game down to a science.
They even have some of you thinking Bitcoin isnt Bitcoin, and you are playing right into their hand
Read both sides of arguement over the last 15-20 pages, and make your own informed decision as to who you think is right.
Do you think the powers that be are going to let almost 100 BILLION DOLLARS slip through their fingers?
This is just a parlor trick, slight of hand, and they will take your money and end up breaking 100 Billion with this brilliant checkmate, at those who are uninformed expense, just like the whales have always done.
Dont say I didnt warn you.
Its just so easy to see for me, but I dont blame you, these guys have this game down to a science.
They even have some of you thinking Bitcoin isnt Bitcoin, and you are playing right into their hand
Bitcoin is still above 4000, and its market dominance over ALL altcoins PUT TOGETHER is INCREASING
sorce: coinmarketcap.com
Now ask yourself everybody?
Who's advice do you think will make you more money?
That is why we are here right?
sorce: coinmarketcap.com
Now ask yourself everybody?
Who's advice do you think will make you more money?
That is why we are here right?
IS there any Good news from Bitcoin cash ? , price is going up .
It's just an Altcoin with no dev team. Just a way to mine and sell.
Bitcoin cash is an altcoin? I dont think so.
Bitcoin cash is clone btc with the same block. If this is an altcoin, the price is not high.
Any coin that is not Bitcoin is an altcoin by definition.
Bitcoin Cash coin is an altcoin, sorry just cause you say its the real bitcoin doesnt mean its true. There is only one Bitcoin.
This is just a very clever scam. Hats off to the guys that seen the chance to captialize on the current arguement over Bitcoin blocksize.
I said it would fall to 500ish and it did.
My next prediction is that it will be 400ish by Tuesday.
And again, I will quote this post as proof of my prediction becoming true just as I did earlier in the thread when I was right.
Yes, I know it barely broke 600 as I am writing this, but like I said, 400ish by Tuesday, and Ill quote this post on Tuesday when I am right again.
And today's its price is $627 , so does that make you an idiot instead of a fortune teller?
That altcoin definition is yours alone, considering segwitcoin is the real alt as it deviates more from the original specs than Cash does.
Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin.
Short run prices conditions matter little, unless you are stupid enough to sell during the drop.
Long run , Bitcoin Cash has better Onchain Utility and will have cheaper fees because of it.
Any logical person can see it will be the winner over segwitcoin.
But you are following a false religion of segwitcoin, so logical conclusions are beyond you.
╥Aztek
https://coinmarketcap.com/
As you can see on the link above
Its Monday, and its at $540
It will be 400ish tomm
So, you have an OPINION that does not reflect reality, or the market value.
You dont even know which coin is named BITCOIN in your mind.
You keep posting your thoughts, and they dont match the facts.
Wow, just wow. And BITCOIN dominance is RISING against ALL CRYPTOS, right now, in the REAL world. So with your logic, I can clone BITCOIN, and call it Bitcoin Money, and call it the real Bitcoin because it has a few features different than BITCOIN, and in your mind it wouldnt be an altcoin lmfao
Click the link at the top, and what does the coin at the top say?
So we are to believe that we should listen to you instead of the tracking report we have all been using long before you even showed up here?
NO, I will stick with real facts and trusted sorces, not some BCH altcoin shill with zero facts to back up his PERCEPTIONS
Were you born that stupid or do you have to work at it?
╥Aztek
When someone cant refute facts in a debate, and they resort to attack the person, instead of facts pertaining to the subject at hand, they have lost.
This is common knowledge.
Everyone else sees this, but you dont seem to be looking at facts.
You seem to have come to your conclusion, and there is nothing anyone can do to make you start weighing facts, and seeing reality.
Did you look coinmarketcap.com?
That shows that your comments are not based on the same data everyone else is looking at.
So put up a weird picture and call me names, but this doesnt change the fact that there is only 1 bitcoin, and since you refuse to check the longest trusted, most reliable, crypto info, and ranking site crypto has to offer...
...Ill relay what it says. There is only one Bitcoin, it is on top and it is called Bitcoin.
You are refering to an altcoin, which by definition, is any coin that is a crypto, and not Bitcoin.
This means that Bitcoin Cash coin is NOT any more the real Bitcoin than BitcoinDark coin is
This is just documented reality
Wow, just wow
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/
I said this yesterday, and said the day before it would be 400ish in 48 hours.
Its much easier to see market trends, twice in a row now, as I predicted the day it would go from 600ish to 500ish as well, when you actually KNOW THE NAMES OF THE COINS.
BEEN HERE SINCE 2013, AND THAT WAS THE FIRST RULE.
YOU BETTER LEARN THIS RULE FAST OR YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE A LOT OF MONEY!!
...but this doesnt change the fact that there is only 1 bitcoin...
Look, we all know there is "one" BTC... but you are missing the technical details. The current BTC is technically NOT bitcoin! It is/will be relying heavily on third party. That is technically NOT bitcoin. The current BCH is technically same but a better and upgraded bitcoin.
That is why technically, current BTC is some weird frankenstein alt-coin which has managed to somehow keep the ticker BTC.
Of course, it does not mean people (like yourself) understand any of this. Perhaps BCH will die and the current BTC frankenstein alt-coin will live. We do not know that.
My hope is that people (including yourself) start realizing this fact and start moving away fromt he current BTC into the "real" bitcoin which is currently marked as "BCH".
My GUESS is that at some point, exchanges will start to rename current BTC into "BTC Classic" and the current BCH into "BTC". That, is ONLY my own guess which I am taking it out of my a** (of course) because I have no crystal ball.
Time will tell.
For now, I have my money in BCH because BTC is going down about 2500-2800 and technically speaking, I like BCH because that is indeed the "original" bitcoin (technically speaking).
Thanks you for admiting that there is ONE BITCOIN
I respect that you have your opinon that Bitcoin Cash is better, and thats fine. I CAN accept that. But these people saying that some new coin is now Bitcoin is silly.
Maybe you are right (I dont think so, but we can disagree on that, and that is OK) and Bitcoin Cash coin will become the top coin and overtake Bitcoin. Im just not going to let people go around and say that some other coin is Bitcoin unchecked, thats all. That is dishonest and misleading.
Check the post above yours and you will see ONE of the reasons why I dont believe Bitcoin Cash coin will not be the coin that overtakes Bitcoin.
But we can discuss that. That is opinion, and speculation, and I am happy to have that discussion.
THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME TO CLEAR UP THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPINION AND FACTS. WE AGREE ON THIS POINT, JUST NOT WHICH COIN WILL END UP ON TOP IN THE END.
AND THATS OK.
We disagree, but we know the difference between facts and opinion, and with that in place, we can have a rational discussion, which is what this forum is all about.
Don't think in terms of usd. BCH is holding steady at 0.12 while BTC on the other hand is taking a massive dump and fast.
Here's a fact:
Miners are invested in BTC, and likely have significant stocks of BTC in their wallets. Abandoning the BTC chain in one fell-swoop would render all those coins near worthless. Even if they wanted to do a 100% switch to BCC, they have incentive to keep the BTC network going until they can minimize their exposure to it in order to make the switch.
Miners are invested in BTC, and likely have significant stocks of BTC in their wallets. Abandoning the BTC chain in one fell-swoop would render all those coins near worthless. Even if they wanted to do a 100% switch to BCC, they have incentive to keep the BTC network going until they can minimize their exposure to it in order to make the switch.
IS there any Good news from Bitcoin cash ? , price is going up .
It's just an Altcoin with no dev team. Just a way to mine and sell.
Bitcoin cash is an altcoin? I dont think so.
Bitcoin cash is clone btc with the same block. If this is an altcoin, the price is not high.
Any coin that is not Bitcoin is an altcoin by definition.
Bitcoin Cash coin is an altcoin, sorry just cause you say its the real bitcoin doesnt mean its true. There is only one Bitcoin.
This is just a very clever scam. Hats off to the guys that seen the chance to captialize on the current arguement over Bitcoin blocksize.
I said it would fall to 500ish and it did.
My next prediction is that it will be 400ish by Tuesday.
And again, I will quote this post as proof of my prediction becoming true just as I did earlier in the thread when I was right.
Yes, I know it barely broke 600 as I am writing this, but like I said, 400ish by Tuesday, and Ill quote this post on Tuesday when I am right again.
And today's its price is $627 , so does that make you an idiot instead of a fortune teller?
That altcoin definition is yours alone, considering segwitcoin is the real alt as it deviates more from the original specs than Cash does.
Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin.
Short run prices conditions matter little, unless you are stupid enough to sell during the drop.
Long run , Bitcoin Cash has better Onchain Utility and will have cheaper fees because of it.
Any logical person can see it will be the winner over segwitcoin.
But you are following a false religion of segwitcoin, so logical conclusions are beyond you.
╥Aztek
https://coinmarketcap.com/
As you can see on the link above
Its Monday, and its at $540
It will be 400ish tomm
So, you have an OPINION that does not reflect reality, or the market value.
You dont even know which coin is named BITCOIN in your mind.
You keep posting your thoughts, and they dont match the facts.
Wow, just wow. And BITCOIN dominance is RISING against ALL CRYPTOS, right now, in the REAL world. So with your logic, I can clone BITCOIN, and call it Bitcoin Money, and call it the real Bitcoin because it has a few features different than BITCOIN, and in your mind it wouldnt be an altcoin lmfao
Click the link at the top, and what does the coin at the top say?
So we are to believe that we should listen to you instead of the tracking report we have all been using long before you even showed up here?
NO, I will stick with real facts and trusted sorces, not some BCH altcoin shill with zero facts to back up his PERCEPTIONS
Were you born that stupid or do you have to work at it?
╥Aztek
When someone cant refute facts in a debate, and they resort to attack the person, instead of facts pertaining to the subject at hand, they have lost.
This is common knowledge.
Everyone else sees this, but you dont seem to be looking at facts.
You seem to have come to your conclusion, and there is nothing anyone can do to make you start weighing facts, and seeing reality.
Did you look coinmarketcap.com?
That shows that your comments are not based on the same data everyone else is looking at.
So put up a weird picture and call me names, but this doesnt change the fact that there is only 1 bitcoin, and since you refuse to check the longest trusted, most reliable, crypto info, and ranking site crypto has to offer...
...Ill relay what it says. There is only one Bitcoin, it is on top and it is called Bitcoin.
You are refering to an altcoin, which by definition, is any coin that is a crypto, and not Bitcoin.
This means that Bitcoin Cash coin is NOT any more the real Bitcoin than BitcoinDark coin is
This is just documented reality
Wow, just wow
That altcoin definition is yours alone, considering segwitcoin is the real alt as it deviates more from the original specs than Cash does.
Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin.
Short run prices conditions matter little, unless you are stupid enough to sell during the drop.
Long run , Bitcoin Cash has better Onchain Utility and will have cheaper fees because of it.
Any logical person can see it will be the winner over segwitcoin.
But you are following a false religion of segwitcoin, so logical conclusions are beyond you.
╥Aztek
Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin.
Short run prices conditions matter little, unless you are stupid enough to sell during the drop.
Long run , Bitcoin Cash has better Onchain Utility and will have cheaper fees because of it.
Any logical person can see it will be the winner over segwitcoin.
But you are following a false religion of segwitcoin, so logical conclusions are beyond you.
╥Aztek
Think about the investor with money to toss into the highly speculative ICO, now that option is gone (China) so she/he maybe turns to these "established" coins is what I'm saying.
By making the ICO in effect "illegal" China has diverted some otherwise ICO discretionary money towards the established market (though we did see some large billions swing in and out in the last few days/week)
I think the market as a whole will see a large influx relative to the $179B market cap we had seen momentarily.
By making the ICO in effect "illegal" China has diverted some otherwise ICO discretionary money towards the established market (though we did see some large billions swing in and out in the last few days/week)
I think the market as a whole will see a large influx relative to the $179B market cap we had seen momentarily.
Think of all that hot money that now has no ICO vehicle to play in, what else do they have to do than to jump into other coins on the market?
It only affects new ICOs so any already established should continue to operate as normal the important thing though is if people trust them enough to keep pumping up the price since half if not most were mainly pump n dumps
Think of all that hot money that now has no ICO vehicle to play in, what else do they have to do than to jump into other coins on the market?
tek...whats going on here...
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Ive said before I have nothing against it apart from it being owned and development being in china and knowing how much the chinese government likes to censor things.
Just look at this recent ICO thing for example that could have easily included all cryptocurrencies based in china too and not just ICOs
Recent ICO thing in China vs how many US citizens have been able to participate at all? I looked at a few attractive ICOs but everyone denied US citizens.
None really plus im not a US citizen either nor chinese and never tried to purchase any or have any interest in any
On the upside it starting to look like a small rebound is going off at the moment
tek...whats going on here...
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Ive said before I have nothing against it apart from it being owned and development being in china and knowing how much the chinese government likes to censor things.
Just look at this recent ICO thing for example that could have easily included all cryptocurrencies based in china too and not just ICOs
china imo are actually doing a gd thing with the ico, it needed some sort of checks
these icos while gd short term, long term take away dev incentives to produce the gds and cause big dumps on the markets
ico should have a stage setting, lets say 5stages, and devs only get paid a share once each stage satisfies the roadmap set out. or something lol
china wouldnt ban crypto, they are balls deep in it lol
Yea the ICO thing was getting out of hand and I agree is is a good thing and more places need to follow suit plus I have never bought or even considered buying any ICOs
And I wouldn't put anything past their government its not like they have never tried before I remember huge crashes around 2012/2013 for this very reason but having the ownership and development based in china would mean if it was tried again it could be affected in a huge way
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Ive said before I have nothing against it apart from it being owned and development being in china and knowing how much the chinese government likes to censor things.
Just look at this recent ICO thing for example that could have easily included all cryptocurrencies based in china too and not just ICOs
Recent ICO thing in China vs how many US citizens have been able to participate at all?
tek...whats going on here...
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Ive said before I have nothing against it apart from it being owned and development being in china and knowing how much the chinese government likes to censor things.
Just look at this recent ICO thing for example that could have easily included all cryptocurrencies based in china too and not just ICOs
Recent ICO thing in China vs how many US citizens have been able to participate at all? I looked at a few attractive ICOs but everyone denied US citizens.
tek...whats going on here...
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Nowt I change addresses all the time or do you mean BCH haha
Ive said before I have nothing against it apart from it being owned and development being in china and knowing how much the chinese government likes to censor things.
Just look at this recent ICO thing for example that could have easily included all cryptocurrencies based in china too and not just ICOs
china imo are actually doing a gd thing with the ico, it needed some sort of checks
these icos while gd short term, long term take away dev incentives to produce the gds and cause big dumps on the markets
ico should have a stage setting, lets say 5stages, and devs only get paid a share once each stage satisfies the roadmap set out. or something lol
china wouldnt ban crypto, they are balls deep in it lol
tek...whats going on here...
Donate BTC or BCH (15kQmukC6grD6SJagQJz6nC8EgiExMsuEH) or Donate Ether ETH (0xDA67e80B6dF8efabE83E54CD35e7Ce009C7F7669)
Donate BTC or BCH
(15kQmukC6grD6SJagQJz6nC8EgiExMsuEH) or Donate Ether ETH (0xDA67e80B6dF8efabE83E54CD35e7Ce009C7F7669)Nowt I change addresses all the time or do you mean BCH haha
Ive said before I have nothing against it apart from it being owned and development being in china and knowing how much the chinese government likes to censor things.
Just look at this recent ICO thing for example that could have easily included all cryptocurrencies based in china too and not just ICOs
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