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Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees - page 684. (Read 704406 times)

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I struggle to see how core can keep miners on their chain after x2, but they've surprised me before.

That being said, I'm stocking up BCH in anticipation for that moment. Bought most @ 0.061 so not too worried about holding bags...
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From each other's perspective the other has indeed "taken over" so we see on the merit of the product. I just shot $100 across the bow for super cheap, guess which coin I didn't use.

at this particular moment i'd like to see everyone get schooled, even though it's impossible. all factions need reminding that their way or the highway is screwing everyone.

what i really wish is that satoshi had left after having laid the foundations for scaling.
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From each other's perspective the other has indeed "taken over" so we see on the merit of the product. I just shot $100 across the bow for super cheap, guess which coin I didn't use.
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What makes one hostile takeover palatable and another not(do we subscribe that BCC is the hostile takeover, or as result of the rejection of the takeover at play via core), very selective and twisted defining of "hostile takeover" at use in this thread.

A friendly fork is one that does not compete in the same space like this one is posed to be http://btcgpu.org

Will be interesting to see what kind of support it gets though
legendary
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What makes one hostile takeover palatable and another not(do we subscribe that BCC is the hostile takeover, or as result of the rejection of the takeover at play via core), very selective and twisted defining of "hostile takeover" at use in this thread.

i think core are passive aggressive pricks who have stifled bitcoin. i also think they are very competent which is how they've managed to stay at the wheel for so long.

if someone really wants to take over bitcoin's direction all they have to do is come up with better concepts executed in a prudent manner. nothing the big blockers have come up with fits those criteria. they have the money but not the skills or the will.
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What makes one hostile takeover palatable and another not(do we subscribe that BCC is the hostile takeover, or as result of the rejection of the takeover at play via core), very selective and twisted defining of "hostile takeover" at use in this thread.
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I don't expect 2x to be any kind of threat it was a compromise for the big blockers but they now have this so support should be low to non existent if anything 2x is more a threat to BCH

even if it its problems are sorted and it functions well, all bcash will achieve is hammer home to the big blockers that there can be only one bitcoin.

2x'll be their next chance, but the launch of bcash has exposed them as disruptive assholes and increased opposition to 2x. the only people who'll support it will be the signatories versus virtually everyone else.

they're big players but they're not the community or the market.

personally i would've been happy with 2x had some real developers been courted and consulted and realistic timeline created.

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BCash is nothing compared to the next coup attempt waiting us in November.

it's a great arbiter of the market's appetite though.

as time goes on the attitude to hostile forks will harden. 2x ain't looking any friendlier than this despite the names tenuously attached to it. the lack of replay is the first insult. there'll be plenty more to come.

i reckon 2x will be dead by november and bcash will have helped in that.

I don't expect 2x to be any kind of threat it was a compromise for the big blockers but they now have this so support should be low to non existent if anything 2x is more a threat to BCH
legendary
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BCash is nothing compared to the next coup attempt waiting us in November.

it's a great arbiter of the market's appetite though.

as time goes on the attitude to hostile forks will harden. 2x ain't looking any friendlier than this despite the names tenuously attached to it. the lack of replay is the first insult. there'll be plenty more to come.

i reckon 2x will be dead by november and bcash will have helped in that.
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I would take a friendly fork over all the trash ICOs any day and a hostile fork like BCH

Bitcoin cash would have had a much more friendly welcome to the cryptospace if they chose to use a different PoW algorithm and possibly a higher value too

Imagine bitcoin cash using say the equihash PoW at the current value it would be one of the most profitable coins to mine and could of taken a huge chunk of the ether mining power especially with it going PoS

which tells us everything about the motivations of bcash's creators. as it's always been, it's yet another bitcoin power grab albeit from a different and more destructive angle.

Yea it was posed as a hostile takeover

BCash is nothing compared to the next coup attempt waiting us in November.
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I would take a friendly fork over all the trash ICOs any day and a hostile fork like BCH

Bitcoin cash would have had a much more friendly welcome to the cryptospace if they chose to use a different PoW algorithm and possibly a higher value too

Imagine bitcoin cash using say the equihash PoW at the current value it would be one of the most profitable coins to mine and could of taken a huge chunk of the ether mining power especially with it going PoS

which tells us everything about the motivations of bcash's creators. as it's always been, it's yet another bitcoin power grab albeit from a different and more destructive angle.

Yea it was posed as a hostile takeover
legendary
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I would take a friendly fork over all the trash ICOs any day and a hostile fork like BCH

Bitcoin cash would have had a much more friendly welcome to the cryptospace if they chose to use a different PoW algorithm and possibly a higher value too

Imagine bitcoin cash using say the equihash PoW at the current value it would be one of the most profitable coins to mine and could of taken a huge chunk of the ether mining power especially with it going PoS

which tells us everything about the motivations of bcash's creators. as it's always been, it's yet another bitcoin power grab albeit from a different and more destructive angle.
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Too many bitcoin coins. We all will go crazy one day. Smiley

I would take a friendly fork over all the trash ICOs any day and a hostile fork like BCH

Bitcoin cash would have had a much more friendly welcome to the cryptospace if they chose to use a different PoW algorithm and possibly a higher value too

Imagine bitcoin cash using say the equihash PoW at the current value it would be one of the most profitable coins to mine and could of taken a huge chunk of the ether mining power especially with it going PoS
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Too many bitcoin coins. We all will go crazy one day. Smiley
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I don't know if this will be successful or not but this is how you fork bitcoin in a friendly manner
http://btcgpu.org

https://twitter.com/lightningasic

Bit hard to understand bad translation but looks like a fork from the same block as BCH but with a change of PoW
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I do not think BCH will cost more than 0.5 BTC. This is a psychological barrier that is unlikely to ever be overcome.

There are many emotions and that can make the BCH-market do crazy things. Currently BCH shorts are at 37.7k on Bitfinex: https://datamish.com/dashboard/db/bchusd?refresh=10s&orgId=1

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@tomcat it's hard to believe a Senior member here wouldn't understand spam? Read up on the history of email spam and I think you'll begin to understand the issue.


I'll repeat - I strongly believe that people can do what they want with their money.
If anyone wants to play with thousands of small transactions for whatever reason, then let it be that way.
If you want to throw your pennies to The Trevi, or just burn a case full of money, then I don't see a problem - it is your money.
My point is: let people do what is allowed in the system.
The only limit I'd think of would be to not allow zero-fee transactions by default, but anything above zero is legitimate because it's paid.


Not trying to troll you. Also, I do agree with your ideological stance that people should be able to spend their money any way they want to.

However, block space has become a valued commodity in BTC (due to the blocksize cap). Also, it's possible to BLOCK "valid" transactions and force fees sky-high by spamming the blockchain.

Basically someone with $200k to spend can slow down the BTC network to a crawl for a week. There are several incentives to do this (price control, creating panic, freezing funds), and none of them are good for the ecosystem. The question is, can that person profit more than $200k from that attack...

BCC is less vulnerable to such attacks due to the larger blocksize.



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I dont think the price will go up like bitcoin. Btc is the best
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We roughly know who are the developers behind BTC currently but who are the developers behind BCH?
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If it were to die, it would have already, did everyone forget the nosedive after the first pump?

What when Roger transfers his BTC to BCH, where will you all be then ?

Roger Ver is just a small potato on the huge field.

I'll be standing on the field as a small dust particle and gonna have a bite on that potato. :d
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