Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Foundation - page 38. (Read 127634 times)
Is there a published list of all board members and the businesses they are associated with? In the interest of transperancy it might be good for everyone to see what interests the people who claim to be the voice of bitcoin serve besides their interest in bitcoin.
What if Paypal gets all is employees to sign up to the bitcoin foundation then votes out everyone but paypal sockpuppets from the board ? Or Visa ?
Dont think Paypal or Visa would do this ?
Jon Matonis worked for Visa so they already have one foot in the door - no offence meant Jon
Its the same way companies like goldman sachs end up with so many ex employees working in government then surprise- they get a bailout. If corporations see that they can buy their way in to influence things they will.
If paypal gets all is employees to sign up to the bitcoin foundation they will endorse Bitcoin and pay Gavins salary. Win, win win Dont think Paypal or Visa would do this ?
Jon Matonis worked for Visa so they already have one foot in the door - no offence meant Jon
Its the same way companies like goldman sachs end up with so many ex employees working in government then surprise- they get a bailout. If corporations see that they can buy their way in to influence things they will.
And... we will just create a new one.
One of the reasons I won't be joining is that I don't want to put my name on their list. But this is a part of any membership based organization. It's pretty hard to see how they could reliably have anonymous members without it being open to abuse. On the other hand (I haven't checked but) I doubt they actually take photo ID from members and it's likely you could supply any random name, address and email. Which brings us full circle. If you want member identity info then you need to check everything or else you may as well just have anonymous members. Certainly when dealing with Bitcoin that couldn't be more true.
Only two years in the Bitcoin universe... few months are sufficient to severely damage Bitcoin with your elitist BS.
This kind of language is also damaging. You want to benefit Bitcoin? Be constructive, not destructive!
I feel free being destructive on things that destroy what is good.
The Bitcoin Foundation is a threat to Bitcoin. It will lead to its factual control by a central authority. That's against all which Bitcoin stands for.
But most people here seem not be willing to admit that danger.
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As a libertarian and non-Statist on the Foundation board, I think that other libertarians and non-Statists would mostly agree that a transparent organization is preferable
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As a libertarian and non-Statist on the Foundation board, I think that other libertarians and non-Statists would mostly agree that a transparent organization is preferable
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Matonis,
Didn't you object against the ban on anonymous memberships? If not, why?
Very simple: Due to this simple restriction they have a preselection of people that do not mind the establishment of a factual central authority. People who care about privacy will not join - and these are generally the most libertarian and non-conformist ones.
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As a libertarian and non-Statist on the Foundation board, I think that other libertarians and non-Statists would mostly agree that a transparent organization is preferable
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As a libertarian and non-Statist on the Foundation board, I think that other libertarians and non-Statists would mostly agree that a transparent organization is preferable
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Matonis,
Didn't you object against the ban on anonymous memberships? If not, why?
I still think the foundation is a good thing, however it needs to be transparent and it needs to be limited in terms of how much ownership it can have on Bitcoin & central services/domains etc.
i agree. it would be good to have a clearly defined scope for the purpose of the foundation, and have a pre-determined schedule of reports to the members, individuals and corporate alike.paying gavin for his work is a good first step, though it should be transparent. if this model is successful other developers should be able to apply for grants for specialized topics. i am thinking for things like lightweight verifying nodes, alternative implementations..
but certainly less damaging than ongoing ponzi and drug related activities.
you mean SilkRoad? Aik, SR didnt harm the bitcoin market.
I still think the foundation is a good thing, however it needs to be transparent and it needs to be limited in terms of how much ownership it can have on Bitcoin & central services/domains etc.
It's important to remember that Gavin already has full control of the code. It's open source, yes, but it's not going to be any less open source after the foundation. Now there will be at least some structure to how Bitcoin is developed and I think that is an improvement.
It's important to remember that Gavin already has full control of the code. It's open source, yes, but it's not going to be any less open source after the foundation. Now there will be at least some structure to how Bitcoin is developed and I think that is an improvement.
ew months are sufficient to severely damage Bitcoin with your elitist BS.
but certainly less damaging than ongoing ponzi and drug related activities.Is this what you expect from the foundation? Thinking by you about what is good and what is wrong?
ew months are sufficient to severely damage Bitcoin with your elitist BS.
but certainly less damaging than ongoing ponzi and drug related activities.I am actually *much* more worried by this bitcoin foundation than by all the ponzi's, scams, etc. I think the foundation will trick a LOT more people into thinking it is something that it's not than any ponzi or scam ever could.
Only two years in the Bitcoin universe... few months are sufficient to severely damage Bitcoin with your elitist BS.
This kind of language is also damaging. You want to benefit Bitcoin? Be constructive, not destructive!
ew months are sufficient to severely damage Bitcoin with your elitist BS.
but certainly less damaging than ongoing ponzi and drug related activities. The Foundation runs itself. No one owns it. It's a registered non-profit based in DC and holds elections.
In 2 years from now, the board could be completely new. You could be on it.
Only two years in the Bitcoin universe... few months are sufficient to severely damage Bitcoin with your elitist BS.
is there any difference between the industry membership levels?
Id rather the bitcoin foundation was based in Iceland which recently told the banksters to fuck off.
this foundation is not the only nonprofit bitcoin foundation. so, don't worry. having more than one (us, eu, somewhere else) is also certainly in the spirit of decentralization. i hope this foundation respects that and fosters collaboration between all those foundations.
Any impression that bitcoin is under US jurisdiction should be avoided. Id rather the bitcoin foundation was based in Iceland which recently told the banksters to fuck off.
I just made a terrible discovery.
The English Foundation.
This is a foundation dedicated to US English. I can't tell but I don't think they even invented English, they seem to be co-opting it for their purposes after the fact and I fear it will get worse.
The English Foundation.
This is a foundation dedicated to US English. I can't tell but I don't think they even invented English, they seem to be co-opting it for their purposes after the fact and I fear it will get worse.
Do you want to bet that one year from now, if this organization is still up, many newbies coming by will believe "Bitcoin was created by the Bitcoin Foundation" or that the "Bitcoin Foundation decides the roadmap for the Bitcoin project and are responsible for it" etc? Or even that journalists will say such things?
Who the fuck is Peter Vessenes and what gives him the right to represent this community/economy?
Heh. I was thinking the same after I saw his post.+1
This thread should be moved to "Service announcements" since it's simply announcing the formation of a US corporation that's looking for members.
I agree with this.
Ok, put this wherever you want. Let's transform the newcomers right to inform themselves in a much difficult task. What about deleting all the newbies section and only linking there to the bitcoin foundation main page?
What about giving us, the low profile complainers, the same month time the "major announcement hype" thread was fucking around here?
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