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November 20, 2013, 06:16:28 AM
Do you think it's a good idea to do preorders on this new hardware or should I list it on the site when they're ready to ship?

Your shipping history is confirmed to be of very high standards. So I would not mind preorders.

In fact it might even be a better option. It would allow me to be prepared for setting up the miners (calculating energy, space and cooling needed to run them). Few h-boards can be set up in no time, but even medium-large order takes some time to get online.

Maybe half stock as preorders and other half as "off the shelf" shipping when ready?

hero member
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BTC Mining Hardware, Trading and more
November 20, 2013, 06:10:51 AM
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Do you think it's a good idea to do preorders on this new hardware or should I list it on the site when they're ready to ship?

Ready to ship.

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sr. member
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November 20, 2013, 06:05:06 AM
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Do you think it's a good idea to do preorders on this new hardware or should I list it on the site when they're ready to ship?

Ready to ship.
sr. member
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November 20, 2013, 05:59:42 AM
You order single chip or reel ?

A couple of chips.
hero member
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November 20, 2013, 05:51:46 AM
Update:

Hello and please accept my apologies for radio silence. The boards that we received are running quite hot, and I decided that we cannot sell them without heatsinks. We've also been extremely busy building a mine here in Finland for a very big private customer while we wait for heatsinks for the new boards. The heatsinks have been in production for some time now. First the custom 150kg heavy tool is being manufactured from steel, then we will have a test extrusion (should happen next week) and then we go into full production. So I would say in about 2-3 weeks time we should be able to start shipping a safe product.

I'll try to find time to list the new boards and some RedFury USB sticks we have up on the site later today or tomorrow. I'm also doing my best to get some old H-cards delivered so we can ship them to you.

Regarding chips, it's looking grim. Chips are currently in wirebonding, and should be ready soon, but these have nearly all been sold already. I might have a few chips available in late november to early december. I hope to get some more reels and trays into the shop by mid-december, but cannot promise anything. Please keep this in mind when designing your own boards.

Do you think it's a good idea to do preorders on this new hardware or should I list it on the site when they're ready to ship?
sr. member
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Dig your freedom
November 20, 2013, 05:16:27 AM
Yes, I want sell part of production.

I wonder what is the demand here. If there is anyone willing buy please post how many boards.
Price cards because of the cost of purchase of chips will definitely not be less than:

320$ - 16x Bitfury chip
35$  -  rest part
Huh   -  PCB/assembly

Tomorrow after I get final quotation for PCB and assembly post complete price.

I would be interested in up to 16 h-boards. But the price is a bit high, around $299 would be a much nicer number.

In this moment price below 300$ are mission impossible. Bitfury chip cost in 3000 piece reel 20$ per chip. 16x20$ =320$ for one board.
I'm open for any form help/cooperation. If anybody have access to cheaper asic I can assembly it.
hero member
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November 20, 2013, 05:00:35 AM
also interested in 1-5 hboards.

depending on final price.
legendary
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November 20, 2013, 04:58:49 AM
Yes, I want sell part of production.

I wonder what is the demand here. If there is anyone willing buy please post how many boards.
Price cards because of the cost of purchase of chips will definitely not be less than:

320$ - 16x Bitfury chip
35$  -  rest part
Huh   -  PCB/assembly

Tomorrow after I get final quotation for PCB and assembly post complete price.

I would be interested in up to 16 h-boards. But the price is a bit high, around $299 would be a much nicer number.
sr. member
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Dig your freedom
November 20, 2013, 04:36:16 AM
How long does it take for the chips to ship? Will I receive a tracking number?
DHL called me today and arranged delivery for tomorrow. I guess they have my chips because I'm not waiting for anything else delivered by DHL. Next time I'd prefer receiving tracking number from BFSB before delivery.
Thats strange.. Punin personally sent me my tracking numbers for my chips on ordering.

Received the chips. That was really quick, excellent service! But still no tracking number was given.

Check this out:

http://imageshack.com/a/img189/3043/eo75.jpg

Left - chip from Bitfurystrikesback, right - chip from Bitbonanza. What other markings do you guys have? I should start collecting them Smiley
You order single chip or reel ?
sr. member
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Dig your freedom
November 20, 2013, 04:33:56 AM

My PCB producer accept without any comment h-board design. I have a meeting in fab tomorrow afternoon (Thursday).  From the initial quotation conclude that the cost of production and assembly will be attractive.
The main problem is the availability and price of Bitfury chips. No reel in EU shop Sad


are you planning to sell H boards to the public?
Yes, I want sell part of production.

I wonder what is the demand here. If there is anyone willing buy please post how many boards.
Price cards because of the cost of purchase of chips will definitely not be less than:

320$ - 16x Bitfury chip
35$  -  rest part
Huh   -  PCB/assembly

Tomorrow after I get final quotation for PCB and assembly post complete price.


sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
November 20, 2013, 03:52:03 AM
How long does it take for the chips to ship? Will I receive a tracking number?
DHL called me today and arranged delivery for tomorrow. I guess they have my chips because I'm not waiting for anything else delivered by DHL. Next time I'd prefer receiving tracking number from BFSB before delivery.
Thats strange.. Punin personally sent me my tracking numbers for my chips on ordering.

Received the chips. That was really quick, excellent service! But still no tracking number was given.

Check this out:



Left - chip from Bitfurystrikesback, right - chip from Bitbonanza. What other markings do you guys have? I should start collecting them Smiley
legendary
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Bitcoin / Crypto mining Hardware.
November 19, 2013, 08:54:25 PM
Question to PCB designers:

I submitted a Bitfury h board for fab and got the following message

Code:
1. It appears that your design has 9-12 mil holes, we require a minimum of 15mil drill with drill+10 pads for vias and drill+15 pads for mounting holes.
2. We found over 5 thousand isntances of 5.8-5.9 mil spacing, we require a minimum of 6mil spacing and no less than 6.

Can someone comment if these changes can be easily done in Eagle?
Maybe problem is C-Scape use metric on design ?
My PCB producer accept without any comment h-board design. I have a meeting in fab tomorrow afternoon (Thursday).  From the initial quotation conclude that the cost of production and assembly will be attractive.
The main problem is the availability and price of Bitfury chips. No reel in EU shop Sad
That's excellent. I am only building 2 boards to practice. That is why they want relaxed specifications. Would surely want to buy boards from you if they would be available quickly Smiley
legendary
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Merit: 1011
November 19, 2013, 07:41:23 PM
Question to PCB designers:

I submitted a Bitfury h board for fab and got the following message

Code:
1. It appears that your design has 9-12 mil holes, we require a minimum of 15mil drill with drill+10 pads for vias and drill+15 pads for mounting holes.
2. We found over 5 thousand isntances of 5.8-5.9 mil spacing, we require a minimum of 6mil spacing and no less than 6.

Can someone comment if these changes can be easily done in Eagle?
Maybe problem is C-Scape use metric on design ?
My PCB producer accept without any comment h-board design. I have a meeting in fab tomorrow afternoon (Thursday).  From the initial quotation conclude that the cost of production and assembly will be attractive.
The main problem is the availability and price of Bitfury chips. No reel in EU shop Sad


are you planning to sell H boards to the public?
sr. member
Activity: 259
Merit: 250
Dig your freedom
November 19, 2013, 07:19:05 PM
Question to PCB designers:

I submitted a Bitfury h board for fab and got the following message

Code:
1. It appears that your design has 9-12 mil holes, we require a minimum of 15mil drill with drill+10 pads for vias and drill+15 pads for mounting holes.
2. We found over 5 thousand isntances of 5.8-5.9 mil spacing, we require a minimum of 6mil spacing and no less than 6.

Can someone comment if these changes can be easily done in Eagle?
Maybe problem is C-Scape use metric on design ?
My PCB producer accept without any comment h-board design. I have a meeting in fab tomorrow afternoon (Thursday).  From the initial quotation conclude that the cost of production and assembly will be attractive.
The main problem is the availability and price of Bitfury chips. No reel in EU shop Sad
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1006
Bitcoin / Crypto mining Hardware.
November 19, 2013, 06:22:49 PM
Question to PCB designers:

I submitted a Bitfury h board for fab and got the following message

Code:
1. It appears that your design has 9-12 mil holes, we require a minimum of 15mil drill with drill+10 pads for vias and drill+15 pads for mounting holes.
2. We found over 5 thousand isntances of 5.8-5.9 mil spacing, we require a minimum of 6mil spacing and no less than 6.

Can someone comment if these changes can be easily done in Eagle?
hero member
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Owner, Minersource.net
November 19, 2013, 01:44:19 PM
How long does it take for the chips to ship? Will I receive a tracking number?

DHL called me today and arranged delivery for tomorrow. I guess they have my chips because I'm not waiting for anything else delivered by DHL. Next time I'd prefer receiving tracking number from BFSB before delivery.
Thats strange.. Punin personally sent me my tracking numbers for my chips on ordering.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
November 19, 2013, 01:30:42 PM
How long does it take for the chips to ship? Will I receive a tracking number?

DHL called me today and arranged delivery for tomorrow. I guess they have my chips because I'm not waiting for anything else delivered by DHL. Next time I'd prefer receiving tracking number from BFSB before delivery.
sr. member
Activity: 259
Merit: 250
Dig your freedom
November 19, 2013, 01:10:08 PM
What are your experiences on how the October 400 GH/s units respond to temperature changes? Is lower generally better? Is there some kind of sweet-spot? Or does the temperature not matter as long as it's below critical (chips melting Wink )?
In may cases for OCed chips (0.86V) best start with little airflow after PCB get 40-45 oC start cooling.  DC-DC conveter need cooling from the start. It is difficult to reconcile these two requirements. I use independent heatsink for DC-DC conv that take 30% available PCB space.
If I start with very cold air, I must restart miner few times for get stable 41-42Gh from board. I think about write little application that run from crontab and will adjust the fan speed depending on the chip  temperature.

In summary, from my experiment  best result I get when PCB stay in  40-45 oC, they like to be warm but not hot.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
November 19, 2013, 07:05:04 AM
How long does it take for the chips to ship? Will I receive a tracking number?
donator
Activity: 543
Merit: 500
November 19, 2013, 06:53:24 AM
What are your experiences on how the October 400 GH/s units respond to temperature changes? Is lower generally better? Is there some kind of sweet-spot? Or does the temperature not matter as long as it's below critical (chips melting Wink )?
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