[ANN] Bitfury ASIC sales in EU and Europe - page 31.

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Quote from: spiccioli on November 05, 2013, 04:04:05 PM

Full August kit, paid around 310 BTCs, up to now has earned around 114 BTCs, it will NEVER break-even.

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Huh, calculating it in fiat you will get your money back, and then some. Unfortunately BTC has tripled in value since then (60eur to 180eur) so you would have been better off by just holding coins. I don't see how that is anything else than your own (and mine) bad decision to go with mining instead of just holding coins and daytrading.

That ASIC earned itself in ~2-3 months, try to find some similar return of investment in other business segments.

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Quote from: BBQKorv on November 05, 2013, 04:01:26 PM

Quote from: tarmi on November 05, 2013, 03:58:28 PM

with starter kits paid over 1000 $, I guess that a lot of people already did loose and is just trying to recoup something.

I already had positive ROI on my August starter kit. No idea why you guys would have a problem.

Well, at the current bitcoin rate, my 2 August starter kits and 1 October full kit broke even 5 days ago, with another couple of h-boards hopefully doing the same in around a month, with a little help from a Jupiter, which is breaking even in around 2 weeks. As a happy BFSB customer I added some more h-boards today and hope they will break even in around 2 months.

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Quote from: spiccioli on November 05, 2013, 04:04:05 PM

Full August kit, paid around 310 BTCs, up to now has earned around 114 BTCs, it will NEVER break-even.

spiccioli

Yes and in August BTC was ~ 100$
Now 242$...

I have a pretty smart tip for you : In futur just buy BTC because 1 BTC today is still 1 BTC in 1 month or 1 year.
The best ROI, break even ever ! No loss Grin

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Quote from: tarmi on November 05, 2013, 03:58:28 PM

Quote from: spiccioli on November 05, 2013, 03:56:35 PM

Quote from: tarmi on November 05, 2013, 03:45:24 PM

H boards are out of stock, wow.

Nice! less people will loose money on them

spiccioli

with starter kits paid over 1000 $, I guess that a lot of people already did loose and is just trying to recoup something.

Adding a non breaking-even board ontop of a non breaking-even kit... I don't understand how you could be better off.

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ps. if you don't pay VAT you're better off... a little better off.

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Quote from: BBQKorv on November 05, 2013, 04:01:26 PM

Quote from: tarmi on November 05, 2013, 03:58:28 PM

Quote from: spiccioli on November 05, 2013, 03:56:35 PM

Quote from: tarmi on November 05, 2013, 03:45:24 PM

H boards are out of stock, wow.

Nice! less people will loose money on them

spiccioli

with starter kits paid over 1000 $, I guess that a lot of people already did loose and is just trying to recoup something.

I already had positive ROI on my August starter kit. No idea why you guys would have a problem.

Full August kit, paid around 310 BTCs, up to now has earned around 114 BTCs, it will NEVER break-even.

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Quote from: tarmi on November 05, 2013, 03:58:28 PM

Quote from: spiccioli on November 05, 2013, 03:56:35 PM

Quote from: tarmi on November 05, 2013, 03:45:24 PM

H boards are out of stock, wow.

Nice! less people will loose money on them

spiccioli

with starter kits paid over 1000 $, I guess that a lot of people already did loose and is just trying to recoup something.

I already had positive ROI on my August starter kit. No idea why you guys would have a problem.

Quote from: spiccioli on November 05, 2013, 02:06:25 PM

Quote from: mmitech on November 05, 2013, 10:30:39 AM

wow add VAT and see how much you get out..... overpriced for me, I was expecting cheaper hardware after the successful run they had and the positive experience.

A KnC Jupiter is definitely cheaper now at 4995 USD instead of 5700-5750 USD for a full rig made up of 16 h-boards + 1 m-board + 1 raspPi.

And h-boards are "certified" at 25GH/s, so you could end up with a 400-450 GH/s bitfury unit instead of a 500-550 GH Jupiter if you're unlucky and get underperforming cards.

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ps. the whole bitfury's idea was a lot of "small" chips against a few big ones... but if small ones are priced like this, the whole idea does not work so well.

Do you get that Jupiter shipping tomorrow?

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Quote from: spiccioli on November 05, 2013, 03:56:35 PM

Quote from: tarmi on November 05, 2013, 03:45:24 PM

H boards are out of stock, wow.

Nice! less people will loose money on them

spiccioli

with starter kits paid over 1000 $, I guess that a lot of people already did loose and is just trying to recoup something.

spiccioli

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Quote from: tarmi on November 05, 2013, 03:45:24 PM

H boards are out of stock, wow.

Nice! less people will loose money on them

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H boards are out of stock, wow.

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Quote from: mmitech on November 05, 2013, 10:30:39 AM

wow add VAT and see how much you get out..... overpriced for me, I was expecting cheaper hardware after the successful run they had and the positive experience.

A KnC Jupiter is definitely cheaper now at 4995 USD instead of 5700-5750 USD for a full rig made up of 16 h-boards + 1 m-board + 1 raspPi.

And h-boards are "certified" at 25GH/s, so you could end up with a 400-450 GH/s bitfury unit instead of a 500-550 GH Jupiter if you're unlucky and get underperforming cards.

spiccioli

ps. the whole bitfury's idea was a lot of "small" chips against a few big ones... but if small ones are priced like this, the whole idea does not work so well.

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Quote from: mmitech on November 05, 2013, 10:30:39 AM

wow add VAT and see how much you get out..... overpriced for me, I was expecting cheaper hardware after the successful run they had and the positive experience.

i bought 7 Grin

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wow add VAT and see how much you get out..... overpriced for me, I was expecting cheaper hardware after the successful run they had and the positive experience.

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Quote from: GandalfG on November 05, 2013, 10:23:56 AM

Quote from: Dexter770221 on November 05, 2013, 10:06:46 AM

Quote from: CryptoCluster on November 05, 2013, 09:47:25 AM

H-Cards in the shop :-)

With lowered price. Interesting to see what price will be in January Wink

Now is more resonable to buy H-Card and desolder chips if you want chips cheaper Wink

Hmm lets count.
Chip in reel cost 15eur
Chip from H-Board 15,63eur

boards are not free...

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ps. plus VAT

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Quote from: Dexter770221 on November 05, 2013, 10:06:46 AM

Quote from: CryptoCluster on November 05, 2013, 09:47:25 AM

H-Cards in the shop :-)

With lowered price. Interesting to see what price will be in January Wink

Now is more resonable to buy H-Card and desolder chips if you want chips cheaper Wink

Hmm lets count.
Chip in reel cost 15eur
Chip from H-Board 15,63eur

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Quote from: CryptoCluster on November 05, 2013, 09:47:25 AM

H-Cards in the shop :-)

With lowered price. Interesting to see what price will be in January Wink

Now is more resonable to buy H-Card and desolder chips if you want chips cheaper Wink

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I know punin has probably answered this before but the thread has gotten quite long and I can't seem to find it, would he consider shipping to the US as well?

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