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Quote from: NotATether on June 15, 2024, 12:21:37 PM

New update published, now BitMixList is also listing wasabi coordinators

I am quite surprised (pleasantly) at how many people stepped up to make new coordinators after ZKsnacks shut down theirs. Good job guys.

Great addition. However, some of the info listed doesn't quite make sense. The "Platform" category lists coordinators as being either 'WabiSabi' or 'BTCPay Server'. WabiSabi is the name of the coinjoin protocol itself, and it's compatible with both Wasabi and BTCPay Server clients.

The 'founded' category is also misleading since the WabiSabi protocol wasn't implemented anywhere until 2022, so there's no way that a coordinator service could have preceded that date.

Quote from: NotATether on June 15, 2024, 12:21:37 PM

Do you guys think I should list whirlpool dojos too? Not the main one obviously, but others that still work. Are there still any wallets that even use dojos?

Sparrow Wallet pushed an update that removed Whirlpool in less than 24 hours after the Samourai arrests. As far as I know, there are no clients or coordinators operating for Whirlpool.

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New update published, now BitMixList is also listing wasabi coordinators

I am quite surprised (pleasantly) at how many people stepped up to make new coordinators after ZKsnacks shut down theirs. Good job guys.

Do you guys think I should list whirlpool dojos too? Not the main one obviously, but others that still work. Are there still any wallets that even use dojos?

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New update coming soon (unrelated to ZeusMEX), I think you guys will like it.

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Quote from: paid2 on June 06, 2024, 04:35:09 PM

Quote from: logfiles on June 04, 2024, 06:59:21 PM

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Thank you for the details! But my point was only that I find it strange to promote a service which is not ready to operate in a professional way.

Btw, since our conversation, it seems that ZeusMEX updated their ANN and ended their service for now.

Quote from: ZeusMEX on May 28, 2024, 10:55:12 AM

ZeusMEX — instant cryptocurrency exchange.

Unfortunately, due to the financial losses of our investor, our exchange cannot continue to operate at the moment.

That was quick, lol

I noticed that now their Twitter handle (https://twitter.com/Zeusmex_com) is also now gone. It was on a few days back. Perhaps the maintenance messages was an indirect way of trying to make an exit. I just do hope no one got scammed in this whole thing

I was happy for yet another new no KYC exchange in the market, it's sad it ended that way.

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Quote from: logfiles on June 04, 2024, 06:59:21 PM

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Thank you for the details! But my point was only that I find it strange to promote a service which is not ready to operate in a professional way.

Btw, since our conversation, it seems that ZeusMEX updated their ANN and ended their service for now.

Quote from: ZeusMEX on May 28, 2024, 10:55:12 AM

ZeusMEX — instant cryptocurrency exchange.

Unfortunately, due to the financial losses of our investor, our exchange cannot continue to operate at the moment.

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New update has been pushed.

Changelog:

- Removed Tengri, MrStork
- Added ZeusMEX exchange (this website doesn't seem to be working right now for some reason)
- Fixed the Anonymixer onion URL to use http (at Anonymixer's request)
- Mixers are now sorted by creation year.

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Quote from: paid2 on June 04, 2024, 06:26:38 PM

At first glance, they don't seem to be super professional and their site gives me strange vibes. Strange to see such an "unfinished product" promoting itself on the forum.

When I access the site, I see this message:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/06/05/cHzuq.png

They announced earlier on that they will be undergoing some sort of site maintainance. So let's give them some time to deliver

Quote from: ZeusMEX on June 01, 2024, 02:42:11 PM

At the moment, our service is undergoing technical maintenance. All obligations to our clients were fulfilled before starting the maintenance. We apologize for any inconvenience caused. We will keep you informed about future updates.

Quote from: paid2 on June 04, 2024, 06:26:38 PM

They talk about "own liquidity reserves" but I was not able to find any mention of proof of reserves, and they don't tell if you can ask one if needed. Could be nice to have more infos in the FAQ, it is very empty for now.

They promised to do this in their upcoming roadmap. At least that's what they said if I recall well.

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Quote from: logfiles on June 01, 2024, 09:57:52 AM

A new player has entered the no KYC exchange market
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They promise never to freeze any coins from blacklisted addresses but will instead return them to the sender.

At first glance, they don't seem to be super professional and their site gives me strange vibes. Strange to see such an "unfinished product" promoting itself on the forum.

When I access the site, I see this message:

Their support team is "available to answer any question".
But it looks pretty difficult at first glance:

Their ToS says:

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When using Zeusmex, you must comply with all applicable laws and regulations. You agree not to misuse our services, engage in fraud or money laundering, or infringe on the rights of others.

But never says in which country they operate and respect "laws and regulations".?

They talk about "own liquidity reserves" but I was not able to find any mention of proof of reserves, and they don't tell if you can ask one if needed. Could be nice to have more infos in the FAQ, it is very empty for now.

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A new player has entered the no KYC exchange market

Website - https://zeusmex.com
ANN - ZeusMEX — instant cryptocurrency exchange.

They promise never to freeze any coins from blacklisted addresses but will instead return them to the sender.

Over to you @NotATether

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Quote from: bitmover on May 15, 2024, 02:10:06 PM

Looks good. But I am always a b it reluctant when I am asked to install anything in my computer... A swap service shouldn't require that, they could have a web implementation.

Maybe they add it in the future

If you really want a truly decentralized service then, participants need have an ability to download and run their own clients (nodes) and these kinds of DEXEs need to be promoted and made more popular because this is how we fight back against the ever-increasing Government threats vs this ordinary centralized "privacy enhancing" services that are disappearing very fast.

Take an example of Bisq, unstoppableswap or blockdx. They all need you to first install the appropriate software, and the good thing is that the source code is open, so you can review it if in doubt.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on May 10, 2024, 03:53:45 AM

Quote from: NotATether on May 09, 2024, 03:07:55 AM

Welp.... more services are shutting down. I was going to publish the updates today but that is been postponed in case we see any of the other sites on this list going down.

If mixers, coinjoin wallets, and no-KYC services are supposedly being used to launder billions of dollars, it makes you wonder why they are not going after actual criminals but instead they go after software developers and are forcing anything related to privacy to shut down. Money laundering is just a pretense they are using to restrict freedom and increase how much control they have over people’s lives, just like how the 9/11 attacks were used to justify passing some of the most Orwellian legislation.

Good point! Just like anything in life, big guys are always safe. Those who produce massive amount of drugs are always free but those who sell a thing or two get caught immediately.
It is just an excuse to say that mixers are used for money laundering and that's all. If they can detect and shut down the mixer, they can also track those who launder millions and billions of dollars and arrest all of them but instead, you know, bunch of excuses and they do whatever they do.

Just an easy and quick example: Launder money via JP Morgan, Deutsche Bank or via other bank. Guess, what? You'll get arrested but Mexican billionaire cartels will not get caught and also bank will continue business without an issue. Basically, it's okay if banks let big criminals to launder money but it's not okay for mixers.
The US failed to track more than $1 billion in military gear aid to Ukraine, wonder why? And no one gets arrested but as they brainwash people, many believe that cryptos and mixers are only used for evil.

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Quote from: bitmover on May 15, 2024, 02:10:06 PM

Looks good. But I am always a b it reluctant when I am asked to install anything in my computer... A swap service shouldn't require that, they could have a web implementation.

You can't have real decentralized exchange with quick web implementation, but I guess you can put ''DEX'' sticker on anything this days and call it decentralized Roll Eyes

Quick web swap usually means that it can quickly disappear and get seized one day.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on May 15, 2024, 01:20:33 PM

https://basicswapdex.com/
https://haveno.exchange/

Looks good. But I am always a b it reluctant when I am asked to install anything in my computer... A swap service shouldn't require that, they could have a web implementation.

Maybe they add it in the future

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Quote from: NotATether on May 10, 2024, 06:01:34 AM

Since you mentioned the Orwellian legislation, the Patriot Act, you might be interested to know that they have recently renewed Article 702 of that thing - even going as far to tell employees to find any excuse to justify warrant-less spying on Americans (and me, I guess).

I don't know for how long people are going to tolerate this stupidities but don't be surprised if you see even crazier laws and regulations soon. Tongue

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The closer the collapse of the Empire, the crazier it's laws are. ― Marcus Tullius Cicero

When your website comes back online think about adding BasicSwap decentralized exchange to your list.
There is also Haveno dex (fork of Bisq) exchange based on monero and Tor, but they just released first version recentl.
https://basicswapdex.com/
https://haveno.exchange/

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on May 10, 2024, 03:53:45 AM

If mixers, coinjoin wallets, and no-KYC services are supposedly being used to launder billions of dollars, it makes you wonder why they are not going after actual criminals but instead they go after software developers and are forcing anything related to privacy to shut down. Money laundering is just a pretense they are using to restrict freedom and increase how much control they have over people’s lives, just like how the 9/11 attacks were used to justify passing some of the most Orwellian legislation.

Because actually stopping crime costs billions of dollars, and they'd rather save money for themselves by going after easy, defenseless targets like developers. Not that this will fix the problem, and it's like putting a band-aid on a cut after the other band-aid fell off.

Since you mentioned the Orwellian legislation, the Patriot Act, you might be interested to know that they have recently renewed Article 702 of that thing - even going as far to tell employees to find any excuse to justify warrant-less spying on Americans (and me, I guess).

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Quote from: NotATether on May 09, 2024, 03:07:55 AM

Welp.... more services are shutting down. I was going to publish the updates today but that is been postponed in case we see any of the other sites on this list going down.

If mixers, coinjoin wallets, and no-KYC services are supposedly being used to launder billions of dollars, it makes you wonder why they are not going after actual criminals but instead they go after software developers and are forcing anything related to privacy to shut down. Money laundering is just a pretense they are using to restrict freedom and increase how much control they have over people’s lives, just like how the 9/11 attacks were used to justify passing some of the most Orwellian legislation.

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New knowledge update published. Very sad one for sure, in terms of the industry, I mean.

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Welp.... more services are shutting down. I was going to publish the updates today but that is been postponed in case we see any of the other sites on this list going down.

It is very important to keep replacing the fallen mixers with new, working mixers, for the purposes of decentralization. Therefore if you have a good experience with any service that is not on this list, please write to me and I will check it out.

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Quote from: NotATether on April 28, 2024, 01:48:09 AM

I am going to wait for a few more days to see if any more services fall before I update the website.

It looks like you will have more mixers to scrap off the list. I don't know if you are aware, but unijoin and tumbler are both offline as of now. No communication from both teams. unijoin has even it's social media accounts removed/deleted.

I just hope no one was scammed in the process. It's getting very wild since the mixer ban in this forum!

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