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June 16, 2015, 03:55:21 AM
#92
I wouldn't take DE too serious if I was you sidhujag. He is an idealist, and like most Utopian visionaries, they become too emotionally involved with their causes, failing to gain the proper perspective, or clarity. Of course he believes himself to be virtuous and altruistic, but nothing could be further from the truth.

“The core of libertarianism is respect for the life, liberty and property rights of each individual. This means that no one may initiate force against another, as that violates those natural rights. While many claim adherence to this principle, only libertarians apply the non-aggression axiom to the state.” – Ron Paul

Non-Aggression Axiom – is the idea that each person has the right to make his or her own choices in life.

Do you see what a complete fuckin hyprocrite he is? He uses pejoritive terms and sensationalizes them with an appeal to sympathy, while cloaking his true intentions. He hates any competition. Everyone knows he created his account to bash other peoples choices. Does that sound like something Uncle Ron would approve of DE?

I called him an idiot, and he said he has "tests" to prove otherwise. Anybody who says they have test to prove they are smart... is a fuckin joke! But let him continue to square the circle. Have fun with him.  Grin Imagine he is a puppet. Pull the right strings and you get the right response every time.


legendary
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White Male Libertarian Bro
June 16, 2015, 02:53:03 AM
#91
"Safer than a Swiss Bank"

I don't believe this was ever used in a public ad campaign (yet).  We did discuss its merits with folks on bitsharestalk.org and on this forum as we often do.  I seem to remember that at one point our web site did have a picture of a bank vault with a phrase something like "be your own bank".  

As many people can attest, I hate liars and the only thing I hate more than a liar is a liar who lies to make money.  Those type of liars are the absolute scum of the earth.  Now, somebody here is a no good, worthless liar.  Either you're a liar or I, Patrick J Byrne and ThomasVeil are liars.  I'll let everyone here decide for themselves who the liar is.

Being the "President and Chief Operating Officer", you certainly seem to be using this "proposed" slogan in an official capacity.  I could have sworn that I saw this "proposed" slogan on the front page of Bitshares.org too.  I'm not the only one either who remembers you using this "proposed" slogan.  The great Preston J Byrne who so eloquently explained Bitsnares also remembers.

I hope that was some kind of joke from him. That quote was on their front-page for a year or so.

BitShares.  
Safer than a Swiss Bank.  
(Ask me why!)


----------------------------

If you can prove the quote did appear on our web site then I will simply say, "Oh, good, I was wondering why such a great slogan hadn't been used yet."

Please.... Lol... Give it a rest.  You know as well as I do and everyone else that visited YOUR website that "Safer than a Swiss Bank" was plastered on the main page in, imo, an attempt to give unwitting individuals a false sense of confidence in Bitshares.  You're a real piece of work.
Dude give it up.. Ur acting like a troll now is that really what you think of yourself? To each his own you've ssid your piece now move on.

Never.  I've been scammed before and I hate seeing other people get scammed.  If I prevent just one person from falling for this scam, then I've done my duty.
legendary
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June 16, 2015, 02:34:14 AM
#90
"Safer than a Swiss Bank"

I don't believe this was ever used in a public ad campaign (yet).  We did discuss its merits with folks on bitsharestalk.org and on this forum as we often do.  I seem to remember that at one point our web site did have a picture of a bank vault with a phrase something like "be your own bank".  

As many people can attest, I hate liars and the only thing I hate more than a liar is a liar who lies to make money.  Those type of liars are the absolute scum of the earth.  Now, somebody here is a no good, worthless liar.  Either you're a liar or I, Patrick J Byrne and ThomasVeil are liars.  I'll let everyone here decide for themselves who the liar is.

Being the "President and Chief Operating Officer", you certainly seem to be using this "proposed" slogan in an official capacity.  I could have sworn that I saw this "proposed" slogan on the front page of Bitshares.org too.  I'm not the only one either who remembers you using this "proposed" slogan.  The great Preston J Byrne who so eloquently explained Bitsnares also remembers.

I hope that was some kind of joke from him. That quote was on their front-page for a year or so.

BitShares.  
Safer than a Swiss Bank.  
(Ask me why!)


----------------------------

If you can prove the quote did appear on our web site then I will simply say, "Oh, good, I was wondering why such a great slogan hadn't been used yet."

Please.... Lol... Give it a rest.  You know as well as I do and everyone else that visited YOUR website that "Safer than a Swiss Bank" was plastered on the main page in, imo, an attempt to give unwitting individuals a false sense of confidence in Bitshares.  You're a real piece of work.
Dude give it up.. Ur acting like a troll now is that really what you think of yourself? To each his own you've ssid your piece now move on.
legendary
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White Male Libertarian Bro
June 15, 2015, 11:00:24 PM
#89
"Safer than a Swiss Bank"

I don't believe this was ever used in a public ad campaign (yet).  We did discuss its merits with folks on bitsharestalk.org and on this forum as we often do.  I seem to remember that at one point our web site did have a picture of a bank vault with a phrase something like "be your own bank". 

As many people can attest, I hate liars and the only thing I hate more than a liar is a liar who lies to make money.  Those type of liars are the absolute scum of the earth.  Now, somebody here is a no good, worthless liar.  Either you're a liar or I, Patrick J Byrne and ThomasVeil are liars.  I'll let everyone here decide for themselves who the liar is.

Being the "President and Chief Operating Officer", you certainly seem to be using this "proposed" slogan in an official capacity.  I could have sworn that I saw this "proposed" slogan on the front page of Bitshares.org too.  I'm not the only one either who remembers you using this "proposed" slogan.  The great Preston J Byrne who so eloquently explained Bitsnares also remembers.

I hope that was some kind of joke from him. That quote was on their front-page for a year or so.

BitShares. 
Safer than a Swiss Bank. 
(Ask me why!)


----------------------------

If you can prove the quote did appear on our web site then I will simply say, "Oh, good, I was wondering why such a great slogan hadn't been used yet."

Please.... Lol... Give it a rest.  You know as well as I do and everyone else that visited YOUR website that "Safer than a Swiss Bank" was plastered on the main page in, imo, an attempt to give unwitting individuals a false sense of confidence in Bitshares.  You're a real piece of work.
hero member
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June 15, 2015, 10:02:56 PM
#88
Here's installment 3 of 7 in Max Wright's series of 5-minute interviews with Dan Larimer.

Today's topic,  

SmartCoins

Enjoy!
newbie
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June 15, 2015, 04:52:15 PM
#87

Look at them giving away nearly half a year of work for nothing.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16953.0.html

Clearly these are terrible people that must be stopped.

Oh wait.. that was actually pretty amazing.




newbie
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June 15, 2015, 03:49:40 PM
#86
DE doesn't understand the concepts of iteration and innovation. That's why his arguments are stale and stuck. He can not outgrow his own initial thoughts which keeps him stuck in the past. I have heard broken records that have more innovation than DE.
legendary
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My mule don't like people laughing
June 15, 2015, 01:28:18 PM
#85
I'm going to be honest with you Stan... I'm having a hard time keeping up with all your scams.  It's like I'm still trying to warn people about one of your previous scams, but you're like five scams ahead of me.  You need to slow down so I can keep up or is the plan to roll 'em out so fast nobody knows what hits 'em?

Could you elaborate on those five scams? I don't know what you're trolling about.
hero member
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June 15, 2015, 12:53:14 PM
#84
Point 1.  "Safer than a Swiss Bank"

I don't believe this was ever used in a public ad campaign (yet).  We did discuss its merits with folks on bitsharestalk.org and on this forum as we often do.  I seem to remember that at one point our web site did have a picture of a bank vault with a phrase something like "be your own bank".  If you can prove the quote did appear on our web site then I will simply say, "Oh, good, I was wondering why such a great slogan hadn't been used yet."

Point 2.  "Graphene Licensing"

The referenced thread is how we do things in BitShares.  You can read everyone's opinion right there in public as our community works to form a consensus.   Fact is, Graphene was developed to both improve BitShares and provide new ways to fund our whole developer team to keep them engaged in growing the ecosystem without BitShares needing to pay for it all.

legendary
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June 15, 2015, 05:14:10 AM
#83
Keep looking for these threads and one more time more you will see how smart and strong BitShares community is.
It seems that you're just jealous that BitShares has so strong community, and it seems you also get pleasure from the fact that to deal with this community.  Smiley

Wonder what you mean with strong. I kinda get the impression all they can ever do is say "yes and amen". The facts are already produced now - the companies set up, the code is written (that company won't just say now "ok use it all for free") and the marketing in full gear. So do you really think the community is possibly strong enough to disagree and stick to 0.9? Maybe write their own new 2.0? No way.

Please show me the link.
BitShares.  
Safer than a Swiss Bank.  
(Ask me why!)
We are a decentralized organization and anything could happen.

Smiley

I hope that was some kind of joke from him. That quote was on their front-page for a year or so.

If you are familiar with BitShares community and read https://bitsharestalk.org for year or more you should know what I mean under "strong and smart".  Smiley

The devs very open for ideas, you can participate in Friday hangout and ask any question which you want or propose your idea and discuss with devs and other peoples which participate at hangout, previous recorded hangouts you can listen here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE2O3_7rd9a8iViqYkgesAA
https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts
sr. member
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June 15, 2015, 05:02:44 AM
#82
Keep looking for these threads and one more time more you will see how smart and strong BitShares community is.
It seems that you're just jealous that BitShares has so strong community, and it seems you also get pleasure from the fact that to deal with this community.  Smiley

Wonder what you mean with strong. I kinda get the impression all they can ever do is say "yes and amen". The facts are already produced now - the companies set up, the code is written (that company won't just say now "ok use it all for free") and the marketing in full gear. So do you really think the community is possibly strong enough to disagree and stick to 0.9? Maybe write their own new 2.0? No way.

Please show me the link.
BitShares. 
Safer than a Swiss Bank. 
(Ask me why!)
We are a decentralized organization and anything could happen.

Smiley

I hope that was some kind of joke from him. That quote was on their front-page for a year or so.
legendary
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June 15, 2015, 04:43:02 AM
#81
I had a bad feeling about this "Bitshares 2.0" and it turns out after reading your forum I was right (again).  Anybody interested should read this thread, Wake Up Call: Bitshares 2.0 is NOT Bitshares.  It certainly seems like all your shareholders are being sold down the river so you can profit even more than you already have.  Let me see if I have this straight, you convinced all the Bitshares shareholders to fund you and now you're starting a for-profit company with the code.

Keep looking for these threads and one more time more you will see how smart and strong BitShares community is.
It seems that you're just jealous that BitShares has so strong community, and it seems you also get pleasure from the fact that to deal with this community.  Smiley


testz, I have no problem with your devs wanting to be compensated for their work. Being a contractor, while serving as the core worker for the BTS platform makes perfect business sense. They have bills to pay so only a fuckin hypocrite would object. But didn't the funding to build the toolkit come from the investors? I thought the whole idea of DPoS was to give the shareholders a stake in whatever IP derived from their investment? Why should Cryptonomix receive sole licensing fees?

You are right Testz. The BTS community are a group of bright individuals, so I really don't see them accepting this lying down without more clarification, especially if it's not in their best interest. Or maybe tomorrow this will all of been nothing but BS, and DE will have to find another boogeyman. (Wonder if DE is related to Joseph McCarthy)?

STAN... YOU HAVE SOME SPLAININ TO DO! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ43__Aul3o




I just want to say to DE that he cry too early, the discussion about licensing and Cryptonomix just started, let's see how community will found consensus.
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June 15, 2015, 04:32:02 AM
#80
I had a bad feeling about this "Bitshares 2.0" and it turns out after reading your forum I was right (again).  Anybody interested should read this thread, Wake Up Call: Bitshares 2.0 is NOT Bitshares.  It certainly seems like all your shareholders are being sold down the river so you can profit even more than you already have.  Let me see if I have this straight, you convinced all the Bitshares shareholders to fund you and now you're starting a for-profit company with the code.

Keep looking for these threads and one more time more you will see how smart and strong BitShares community is.
It seems that you're just jealous that BitShares has so strong community, and it seems you also get pleasure from the fact that to deal with this community.  Smiley


testz, I have no problem with your devs wanting to be compensated for their work. Being a contractor, while serving as the core worker for the BTS platform makes perfect business sense. They have bills to pay so only a fuckin hypocrite would object. But didn't the funding to build the toolkit come from the investors? I thought the whole idea of DPoS was to give the shareholders a stake in whatever IP is derived from their investment? Why should Cryptonomix receive sole licensing fees?

You are right Testz. The BTS community are a group of bright individuals, so I really don't see them accepting this lying down without more clarification, especially if it's not in their best interest. Or maybe tomorrow this will all of been nothing but BS, and DE will have to find another boogeyman. (Wonder if DE is related to Joseph McCarthy)?

STAN... YOU HAVE SOME SPLAININ TO DO! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ43__Aul3o


legendary
Activity: 1764
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June 15, 2015, 03:07:42 AM
#79
I had a bad feeling about this "Bitshares 2.0" and it turns out after reading your forum I was right (again).  Anybody interested should read this thread, Wake Up Call: Bitshares 2.0 is NOT Bitshares.  It certainly seems like all your shareholders are being sold down the river so you can profit even more than you already have.  Let me see if I have this straight, you convinced all the Bitshares shareholders to fund you and now you're starting a for-profit company with the code.

Keep looking for these threads and one more time more you will see how smart and strong BitShares community is.
It seems that you're just jealous that BitShares has so strong community, and it seems you also get pleasure from the fact that to deal with this community.  Smiley
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June 15, 2015, 02:33:43 AM
#78
everyone keeps saying they are comminist type coin. can some one explain that or why it is not?

By 'everyone' I guess you mean DecentralizedEconomics.  He has some irrational hatred of Bitshares for some reason, maybe because its a competitor to NXT.  Personally I find it smarter to buy both NXT and Bitshares and hedge my bets.

Bitshares is like a corporate governance system, things are controlled by shareholder vote.  Who gets to produce blocks is decided by shareholder vote, parameters of the system are decided by shareholder vote, etc.  I don't see how a corporation could be considered 'communist'.  If corporation and communism mean the same thing to you, which they apparently do to DecentralizedEconomics, then you are using different word definitions than the rest of us.

Hatred? Yes ... Irrational? No ...

Like I've said before, Corporations are fine things and acceptable in a free market economy.  Corporatism though is bad and exactly the same as Communism.  Corporatism is one or more corporations effectively controlling the economy/state through monopolistic practices.  Communism is the state controlling the economy/corporations through monopolistic practices.  There is no difference between the two.  As Chairman Stanlin's dear friend Vladimir Lenin so accurately described communism as "nothing but state capitalist monopoly made to benefit the whole people."

Now the reason this applies to Bitshares is because of the way shareholders elect delegates.  Bitshares uses the notoriously flawed approval voting system which is known to be unsuitable for contested elections.  Approval voting is unsuitable because it is susceptible to strategic voting where a very small amount of the voters can collude together to drastically affect the outcome of the election in their favor.  Effectively, this means a very small amount of shareholders control the entire Bitshares economy/blockchain through monopolistic practices.  Sound familiar?

You do understand the difference betwen fascism and communism right?

Why are state imposed artificial limitations of liablity a good thing?  

In regards to the swiss bank thing, I bought bitgold when bitshares was at about a 90M market cap and held that long posiiton.  My investment in crypto quadrupled (valued in bitcoin)  Maybe not a swiss  bank, but out performing any other crypto out there.
legendary
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White Male Libertarian Bro
June 14, 2015, 11:28:22 PM
#77
I'm going to be honest with you Stan... I'm having a hard time keeping up with all your scams.  It's like I'm still trying to warn people about one of your previous scams, but you're like five scams ahead of me.  You need to slow down so I can keep up or is the plan to roll 'em out so fast nobody knows what hits 'em?
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June 14, 2015, 11:17:24 PM
#76

For the first time, I actually agree with DE. Seriously? BTS investors pay for your salary, and then the product you guys create is proprietary? Say it isn't so Stan.

legendary
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White Male Libertarian Bro
June 14, 2015, 10:56:17 PM
#75
Please show me the link.

BitShares. 
Safer than a Swiss Bank. 
(Ask me why!)

We are a decentralized organization and anything could happen.

Smiley

Lol.  Good one.

I thought Bitshares(TM) address was:

BitShares
Virginia Tech Corporate Research Center
2020 Kraft Drive, Suite 3030
Blacksburg, VA 24060, USA

(Bottom of page)

I had a bad feeling about this "Bitshares 2.0" and it turns out after reading your forum I was right (again).  Anybody interested should read this thread, Wake Up Call: Bitshares 2.0 is NOT Bitshares.  It certainly seems like all your shareholders are being sold down the river so you can profit even more than you already have.  Let me see if I have this straight, you convinced all the Bitshares shareholders to fund you and now you're starting a for-profit company with the code.

hero member
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June 14, 2015, 04:15:59 PM
#74
Please show me the link.

We are a decentralized organization and anything could happen.

Smiley
legendary
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White Male Libertarian Bro
June 14, 2015, 03:54:44 PM
#73
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The truth of the matter is anybody who truly understands what Bitshares is knows that the peg will never hold because without full convertibility you cannot have parity!  They will play this game until they bleed everyone dry.

Wow, you are not only software development expert, you're also economics expert, where we can read your other works?  Smiley

I am a renaissance man.

Thank you for bringing that up yet again!  It gives us the chance to tell other people about it.

You're welcome!  I'm always here to help explain Bitsnares(TM) to any potential users.

When BitShares is fully mature, it will indeed be far safer than a Swiss Bank.
You'll know your money is really there and no one will be able to freeze or seize it.

Swiss banks used to be famous for their privacy and security.
Today, they will make your data available to any rogue government who asks.
And check out the new European banking laws since Cyprus proved they can get away with confiscating depositor funds.
"Bail-ins" are now the plan, not the outrageous exception.

This is my favorite retort when somebody questions if Bitsnares(TM) actually is "Safer than a Swiss Bank" is to respond just like you, "Well, actually, you know, Swiss Banks aren't as safe as they used to be."  I find this works even more effectively if the individual isn't very savvy and doesn't understand the difference between counterparty risk and systematic risk.

We may one day actually use the Safer than a Swiss Bank slogan proposed on bitsharestalk.org when BitShares reaches full maturity.  But I appreciate it when someone mentions it early, because it reminds people of what we are trying to accomplish.

Smiley

PROPOSED?

Being the "President and Chief Operating Officer", you certainly seem to be using this "proposed" slogan in an official capacity.  I could have sworn that I saw this "proposed" slogan on the front page of Bitshares.org too.  I'm not the only one either who remembers you using this "proposed" slogan.  The great Preston J Byrne who so eloquently explained Bitsnares also remembers.
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