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legendary
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In clear black and white, those controlling those 5 wallets have dumped, in 12 days, just under 3 million coins or aproximately 900 BTC, north of $400,000. In 12 days.

Te saluto don Corleone...
And now you see Cinni pump Cheesy ? try connect facts someone just moved BTC from BC to Cinni i think that is clear ?
Big BC hollder just cashed out and this is good.
He now don't have those 3m to dump. I am very happy that he went out.
You can't hold price forever especially when Max is writing BC is hot Cheesy
if he pump BC that will be ride like his LTC pump.
sr. member
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I would like to point out that:

- There is no organised manipulation. Not from this group. (I believe basically everyone in this community is accumulating more BlackCoin and sells when it hits the 30-38k mark, only to rebuy between 28-30k)
- The Foundation is nothing more than an effort to support rat4 and future devs, to highlight the community projects (e.g. keep a community portfolio) and to be a contact point for parties interested in BlackCoin. Honestly, most of these parties will not come to the forum. They will find someone in the community with status, or they will be directed to someone with the know- how.
- The Foundation means to expand it's representation as follows: anyone (willing to share personal details) can become a "Representative Member". Any Representative Member would be a local, regional or international contact point for media, developers or community members. (the foundation does not do "push" PR, it will only do "pull" PR. e.g. people come to the foundation's Representative Members).

Further yes. We know nothing about push PR and we will not actively be doing pushing any PR. Atleast not under the "Foundation"'s name.

here U go:

LA MANO NERA (THE BLACK HAND) AT WORK:

Very interesting to follow the trail… it takes you to some places that you had anticipated, of course. Still the corroboration is so blatant that it shocks you a bit.

If you check the 20 richest BC wallets as 9:57AM April 27th, 2014. You find that the one in position number 13, has a balance of 703 338.99372117, number 15 has a balance of 609 000.00000000, number 16 has a balance of 603 696.00000000, number 18 has a balance of 550 680.70344934 and number 20 has a balance of 517 042.17227691. A rough total of 3 MILLION BC distributed in 5 wallets.

Now fast forward to may 9, 2014, 21:57 utc, just 12 days after, and, of all those millions and all those wallets,  you can only find the ones in number 18 and the one on number 20, now located at numbers 123 and 115, respectively and where both together had over one million coins, now they have less than 100k each. The other 3 wallets are nowhere to be seen among the 527 top wallets so they will have less than 14k each if they have anything at all.

In clear black and white, those controlling those 5 wallets have dumped, in 12 days, just under 3 million coins or aproximately 900 BTC, north of $400,000. In 12 days.

Te saluto don Corleone...



also a true investor will not take a chance to sell at 38K.....if the coin can shoot up to 60k in minutes...
they won't risk to be left behind..
unless they guarantied that the price will go back down by THEIR ORGANIZED DUMP....

this is the reason why they didn't support the Wall Street idea, they wouldn't control it, and it will create such buzz and fast market that they will definitely be left behind...

again THX Black Hand to f*** this all up..
legendary
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hero member
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cloverdex.io
I would like to point out that:

- There is no organised manipulation. Not from this group. (I believe basically everyone in this community is accumulating more BlackCoin and sells when it hits the 30-38k mark, only to rebuy between 28-30k)
- The Foundation is nothing more than an effort to support rat4 and future devs, to highlight the community projects (e.g. keep a community portfolio) and to be a contact point for parties interested in BlackCoin. Honestly, most of these parties will not come to the forum. They will find someone in the community with status, or they will be directed to someone with the know- how.
- The Foundation means to expand it's representation as follows: anyone (willing to share personal details) can become a "Representative Member". Any Representative Member would be a local, regional or international contact point for media, developers or community members. (the foundation does not do "push" PR, it will only do "pull" PR. e.g. people come to the foundation's Representative Members).

Further, yes: we know nothing about push PR and we will not actively be doing pushing any PR. Atleast not under any "Foundation"'s name.
newbie
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You wrote a lot of things i agree with.

However, i still doubt that those guys are the ones who hold the price down.


When I revealed the truth the dumping stopped for several hours and then started back up again...

Only time will tell...
to be fair, it had stopped for some hours before. that was like the only period w/o dumping for more than 24 hrs for weeks though, that's correct.
If THEY stopped because of the announcement, that would have been pretty dumb as it would have been kind of an admission of guilt. I would not have done that Wink

If the manipulation exist maybe it's being done by BTC and LTC Holders aware of the true potential of BlackCoin.
hero member
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You wrote a lot of things i agree with.

However, i still doubt that those guys are the ones who hold the price down.
In case they are not good in marketing or as you suggest, in anything, how would they be able to manage such a thing? Or do you think they intentionally messed up all the marketing and the multipool delay is also intented? Evil genius?
If you could start a massive rise in price just by stopping the dumping, you could make more profit w/o trying to amass coins with those tiny daytrading margins that are available now... since holding the price down too long can be very very risky if you want to stay in the game - in the end you've got all coins and not a single buyer since everybody lost interest.

If i was forced to bet my money on a scenario, i would still think that there are some guys cashing out slowly (if you watched the last week you will see hardly a single dump below 28502). That takes it's time, but if you want to exit you do not need to care about how this affects other and smaller holders or future investors.

When I revealed the truth the dumping stopped for several hours and then started back up again...

Only time will tell...
to be fair, it had stopped for some hours before. that was like the only period w/o dumping for more than 24 hrs for weeks though, that's correct.
If THEY stopped because of the announcement, that would have been pretty dumb as it would have been kind of an admission of guilt. I would not have done that Wink
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full member
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You wrote a lot of things i agree with.

However, i still doubt that those guys are the ones who hold the price down.
In case they are not good in marketing or as you suggest, in anything, how would they be able to manage such a thing? Or do you think they intentionally messed up all the marketing and the multipool delay is also intented? Evil genius?
If you could start a massive rise in price just by stopping the dumping, you could make more profit w/o trying to amass coins with those tiny daytrading margins that are available now... since holding the price down too long can be very very risky if you want to stay in the game - in the end you've got all coins and not a single buyer since everybody lost interest.

If i was forced to bet my money on a scenario, i would still think that there are some guys cashing out slowly (if you watched the last week you will see hardly a single dump below 28502). That takes it's time, but if you want to exit you do not need to care about how this affects other and smaller holders or future investors.

When I revealed the truth the dumping stopped for several hours and then started back up again...

Only time will tell...
hero member
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You wrote a lot of things i agree with.

However, i still doubt that those guys are the ones who hold the price down.
In case they are not good in marketing or as you suggest, in anything, how would they be able to manage such a thing? Or do you think they intentionally messed up all the marketing and the multipool delay is also intented? Evil genius?
If you could start a massive rise in price just by stopping the dumping, you could make more profit w/o trying to amass coins with those tiny daytrading margins that are available now... since holding the price down too long can be very very risky if you want to stay in the game - in the end you've got all coins and not a single buyer since everybody lost interest.

If i was forced to bet my money on a scenario, i would still think that there are some guys cashing out slowly (if you watched the last week you will see hardly a single dump below 28502). That takes it's time, but if you want to exit you do not need to care about how this affects other and smaller holders or future investors.
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Barabbas has been my strongest critic and he called me Hitler once. I do not agree with half the stuff he writes, but I do not delete his posts because debate is good and I always said that. What I dislike is when people start personally attacking others and use FUD as fact against that person's character.

I can tell you as I am less active and I just mostly observe, I see many people are just "wishing" and "hoping" instead of using their commonsense. Sometimes the answer is right in front of you if you just dare to look.

I have proven myself time and time again as being an honest and on the level guy. I recently posted pics of the makeshift card factory setup in my home, and the people who were posting FUD about the cards have magically vanished. However, not one person said.."hey since Iconic has been honest about everything he promised, why would he lie about the group manipulating the prices"? When I said I have over 2 million coins most people didn't even question if I was lying because they believed it to be true, but I am lying about the manipulation? Why would I lie about something that would surely affect the price of BC and in turn affect my portfolio? What would I have gained by lying about the group?

Sometimes it is hard to face the truth so people lash out at the person delivering the bad news because it is much easier to deny it than accept it. That is life both online and offline.

So what do I think about the future of BC? Well...lets put aside the group manipulation for a second.

Gritt is a ticking time bomb and he will show his true colors soon. The guy tried to manufacture and "give away" his own BlackCoin cards before I got the first batch from the factory. I can spot a snake a mile away and Gritt is a snake.

SoepKip is just waiting until BC gets to a certain level to cash out. Right now he is happy and excited to be doing something important with his life, but eventually he will get bored and once he is faced with over $100,000+ he will cash-out. He wont stick around long after that.

Maarx is a good kid with a future and I respect him for his honesty. He is a stand-up kid in my book, but he is is a bit naive about what is going on behind the scenes. He will probably be the first to leave when the sh!t hits the fan.

rat4 has no clue what is going on. He doesn't understand English very well and he is your typical coder...just focused on the technology. He is not interested in the business end and he will not have any effect on BC either way.

So what is my point? BC cannot succeed with this team... I do not care how many partnerships are established or how supportive the community is, without a strong experienced team BC will eventually fail.

Forget about everything else that happened this week and lets focus on the announcement of naming the PR firm. WTF was that? It has been over two months and these guys haven't learned anything from me. The one major accomplishment for this team and they announced the name of the PR firm in the middle of the week with no press release. They should have announced that they would be announcing the name on xyz date, and had a press releases ready to go live on that date. They raised all that money and you would think they would spend another $600 and make a big deal out of the announcement. I would have made sure the PR firm sent out coordinated press releases that day. Other devs are now using press releases tactics and these guys still do not get it.

I would like to make it clear, what drives me and what drives them are not the same. These poeple think BC will make them rich and they are jsutw aiting for the day to cash-out. Yes I love making money like everyone else and I wasn't here solely for the love of BC. However, I didn't care about making tons of money because that wasn't my motivation. My motivation was getting BC to the #1 spot and in the beginning I sincerely felt it had a chance. I wanted to be part of a community that knocked off the #1 coin. For me that was very exciting and fun. It is no longer fun when you have a team that has no clue WTF they are doing, and a group that is manipulating the price for their own benefit.







legendary
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legendary
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Also why are all the posts where I quote YY saying he has more than XX million BC getting deleted? All this talk about big wallets so the same rule applies to him. Nothing but hypocrisy in this thread
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Big holder = big responsibility...
They need invest more other wise their invention will collapse i see in IE one of responsible guy who is making something he add BC value.
Many big holders wont tell you how much they have why ? Information are price less...
Personalty i would like that active.creative guys like IE have even 3m each and we have 10 holders like him
than 100 000 passive stakeholders
who prays for miracle pump to sell - this is the POINT.
hero member
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Focusing on manipulation? Sounds kind of negative for PR.
well, one troll does focus on it right now.

actually IE has resumed his work with the usb cards and does not talk much about it atm.

But you're right, we should all ignore that cringeworthy mongrel of Jerry Fletcher and Alex Jones now that his FUD has become that easy to see through.
full member
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Also why are all the posts where I quote IE saying he has more than 2 million BC getting deleted? All this talk about big wallets so the same rule applies to him. Nothing but hypocrisy in this thread

I delete most of your posts because you are a troll with a fake account. Why would I hide the fact about my coins since I publicly revealed it? Do us all a favor and go post your FUD in the "official" thread.
sr. member
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Focusing on manipulation? Sounds kind of negative for PR.
full member
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DarkCoin passing BC...
who cares? there's as much reason for it as the last CINNI pump.
DRK will never be adopted by merchants etc. as it is seen as a tool for criminals.

btw. why wasn't it (obviously) the end of DRK when we passed it in market cap?

oh and NIN sucks Cheesy

Copy paste? I didn't post NIN here
hero member
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DarkCoin passing BC...
who cares? there's as much reason for it as the last CINNI pump.
DRK will never be adopted by merchants etc. as it is seen as a tool for criminals.

btw. why wasn't it (obviously) the end of DRK when we passed it in market cap?

oh and NIN sucks Cheesy
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DarkCoin passing BC...
sr. member
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meh. i think i will just return to ignoring you, it's actually no longer important to reply to your posts since the level of FUD and insanity has become that obvious that no one can accidentally take you for a legit poster anymore.
have fun, and don't forget to keep counting the tic tic tic - that's the time you've got until the asylum keepers come with the next suppository.

If you are not insane (i still think that the SpainCoin desaster had a severe impact, you lost all your money and your brain went tilt) and a paid troll: if you decide to quit one day, please let us know why you put that much effort in this - paid by big BTC or LTC holders or mining supply companies that fear that PoS can take over one day and destroy their energy wasting business?


I think we should be glad to have barabbas, it seems he's only trolling the best altcoin out there and he trolls here. Wink
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